See, I’d love to be a dirty fucking hippie, but my hair fell out, I can’t grow a beard and even I can’t stand the stench if I don’t shower daily.

I work three blocks from Wall Street, and I would like it if the protestors (a) shaved, and (b) stopped thinking that everyone who works near Wall Street is a banker and/or derivatives trader.

Doesn’t mean I want to see them get pepper-sprayed.

Although I saw a comment on Twitter comparing the pepper-spraying to the shootings at Kent State. Maybe I’m drawing a shit-ton of flame by saying this, but I thought that was crazy. Not only did no one die from pepper-spraying, but it was a lot more clear what the protestors at Kent State wanted.

Shorter Jason: My corporate sponsors told me to crank out standard boilerplate hippie punching claptrap. Here’s a huge (*hhhrrrmAAHHH*) pile of it right here.

Human Events. Like Jason would know what those are.

mmy,

Twitter is not exactly the best venue for reasoned debate, wouldn’t you agree? You want to grab eyeballs.

Mango.

It would be one thing if these organic granola crunchers were protesting all the bailouts and out-of-control spending that has us drowning in red ink. But they’re not. In a Michael Moore-esque fashion, they’re picketing capitalism as the main culprit of our financial woes, oblivious to the fact that free markets and the Wall Street bailouts are not even in the same universe.

It’s a trope I’ve seen every now and then on the right: claim that the ugly, corrupt things you see in the real world (like the Wall Street bailouts, something Bush initiated, by the way, not Obama), have nothing to do with free markets and therefore you can’t blame capitalism for them.

Which is up there with the claim you still hear sometimes that Stalin’s gulags and Mao’s cultural revolution weren’t planned out in Karl Marx’s writings, therefore you can’t blame communism for them. Dude, nobody cares how the ideology reads in your fantasy books. This is what happens when you apply it and put its followers in power in the real world. It’s nice that your book says different, but irrelevant.

Jason Mattera’s Most Productive Moment of the Day

Sweetest-smelling, as well.

Even the ones who weren’t around in the sixties are still fighting the hippies. I hear it in a Cartman voice: “HIIIPPPIIEEESSSS!!!!”

Phew, I’m glad there’s a new Hippies! thread cause all that talk about living modestly was getting me down. Now, where’s my bong. Oh Rochester !?!

they’re picketing capitalism as the main culprit of our financial woes, oblivious to the fact that free markets and the Wall Street bailouts are not even in the same universe.

Really? So the fact that the derivatives that brought down the entire house of cards and forced those bailouts were traded on the stock exchanges, those very bastions of capitalism, the very proofs that capitalism “works”….that has nothing to at all do with capitalism? Or that the underlying bad assets were trumpeted hourly on the TeeVee as a good thing? Or that George W Bush himself encouraged home ownership as a patriotic duty of a free market loving nation?

None of that was capitalism at its finest?

Give a kick. I guess I’ll go turn in my economics degree, then….I’ve been punked by a jerk with a microphone.

@actor

Yeah, that’s definitely true.

OMG, this is unbelievable.

Jason Mattera is snarking and Tintin is being serious.

It’s bizarro world.

It’s bizarro world.

I’m amazed you were able to blurt that out and not void your blatter, coward.

OT: Wizdribble commits a Godwin and does their part to encourage stochastic terrorism.

Forget for a moment that these smelly nitwits are protesting TARP (the Troubled Assest Relief Program) that was adopted nearly three years ago (a little late, fellas), and never mind that Obama did “bail out” the rest of us with his “stimulus,” ObamaCare and other budget-busting schemes ($4 trillion in new debt later, a total failure).

These communists totally got what they wanted!

Nice comments section.

Pigshit lagoons are more pleasant.

What would these dudes say if teabaggers were pepper-sprayed picketing an Obama town hall?

Jason Mattera said the same thing what you said, that these clowns have no idea what they’re protesting.

No, that’s not what I said, Danni. When you gonna grow a set?

LOL Y U MAD THO?

WHERES MY WEENOR?

Mad? Why? Because I asked you a question? Because I pointed out that you have….bladder control issues? That, ultimately, you’re pretty useless around here?

How is that mad? If anything, I’m laughing…well, not at you, but you see that spot in the air right next to you?

Yea. There. It’s funny how it keeps avoiding you.

MOM SED I CAN HAVE MOAR CHEETOS

He keeps touching me inappropriately. And he wears a thong.

TOILET CHEESE!!!

There there, Air. I’m sure he’ll find something else to molest. School’s been out for a couple of hours now.

SUMTHIN STINKS

OOPS! ITS ME

HAHA

What would these dudes say if teabaggers were pepper-sprayed picketing an Obama town hall?

The NYPD is in Obama’s pocket! Racist media! Wargarblesocialestshommadahommada!

they’re picketing capitalism as the main culprit of our financial woes, oblivious to the fact that free markets and the Wall Street bailouts are not even in the same universe.

And as some nitwit linked by Substance a day or two pointed out, periodic crises are part and parcel of capitalism. It is possible to think that under regulated capitalism is to blame and ALSO be against the bailouts, hating the “privatizing profit while socializing risk” corruption at the same time you recognize it isn’t actually “free market capitalism.”

Nice comments section.

On my machine, the comments are displayed in a single column of one letter each. Which may be an improvement.

As for this Jason Mattera, is he against TARP? Does he not realize that TARP is what saved Wall Street’s collective ass?

Does he not realize that TARP is what saved Wall Street’s collective ass?

No.

/SASQ

Again, I can’t help but find it darkly funny how these shitty little quislings are so eager to pipe up in Wall Street’s defense. What, do they think that’s going to get them a spot at the table? Sorry, kid-you had to be born into it, and if you’re pooping out op-eds for Human Events, then you weren’t.

Ghetti, you bring up a good point. I wish we could leap ahead into the future with them and let them see what they look like at age 66, washed up, poor, without Social Security and no 401k, because, you know, bankstahs, and then ask them why they’re defending the same shit that’s raping them.

If only Wall Street was groovier.

How f’ing cool is that?

So you don’t mind?

Not that it matters. It’s just nice to know we’ve bugged you.

So tell us about your bladder control issues, Dennis.

And do be detailed. We just love that kind of stuff.

As for this Jason Mattera, is he against TARP? Does he not realize that TARP is what saved Wall Street’s collective ass?

He’s opposed to whatever the dirty fucking hippies are in favor of, and vice versa.

Dennis, you think this is good writing, or entertaining:

Truth be told, if these funky flower children were concerned about the economy and America becoming a bailout nation, they’d be staging sit-ins from San Francisco to Washington, D.C., to protest Obama’s takeover of the health-care market, which is crippling job growth, creating more dependency on Uncle Sam, and adding to an already vast national debt.

???

I mean, besides being a total pile of untrue shit, boy sounds like he’s melting down.

I’ll bet you were a big fan of Ed Anger. All Mattera needs to do is add in a line about being “pig-biting mad” and he’s there.

Also, too: Obama’s spent $4 trillion on bailouts & stimulus? Someone can’t do math.

If only Wall Street was groovier.

Those cute badgers representing our local Wall Street lickspittle dance to a pretty groovy beat.

Jesus. I see they let any butt-reaming asshole post at the Human Events blog as long as they have a junior-high persuasive argument.

ckelly – it’s worse than that…Mattera’s the editor.

Mattera’s the editor.

Presumably, this means he keeps all the shiny advertising nickles.

Shorter every wingnut post about every protest by a liberal or left-of-Atilla the Hun group:

“Who the fuck do these people think they are – CITIZENS or something?”

Sort of a mango:

Mr. Mattera is the editor of HUMAN EVENTS and the author of Obama Zombies: How the Liberal Machine Brainwashed My Generation (Simon & Schuster). He also hosts The Jason Mattera Show on News Talk Radio 77WABC. Previously, he was the Spokesman for Young America’s Foundation and a TV correspondent for Michelle Malkin.

1) ZRM — watch out he’s onto your scheme.
2) A TV correspondent for Stalkin’ Malkin? WTF?

By the way, how do I get to be a dirty fucking hippy?

I’m a hippy, I’m pretty dirty, and I still don’t get any.

On my machine, the comments are displayed in a single column of one letter each. Which may be an improvement.

It’s probably your browser. That’s why I had to stop using Opera, which I otherwise really like, because too many sites would do that. Anybody know WTF that’s all about?

More mangoes: These are all headlines from his most recent articles:

Angry, Stoned, Clueless Leftist Mobs ‘Occupy Wall Street’

Leftist Mind Control Begins With… ‘Sesame Street’?

Obama Losing It: George Washington’s Cool With His Tax Hikes

Mike Lee’s Mission: Rescue the Constitution From Government

Attorney General Holder an Insult to D.C.’s 9/11 Memorial

Rumsfeld: Attack Imminent If Congress Cuts Defense

College Threatens to Nix 9/11 Tribute As Too American

Wives of Toppled Tyrants Would Make for Great TV

Obama’s Bust Tour USA: And the Spending Keeps Rolling Along

It’s almost like he has some sort of agenda or something…

Right, Jason. I am sure the Tea Party rallies smelled like roses that shoot CK1.

I’m a hippy, I’m pretty dirty, and I still don’t get any.

consider yourself lucky…at least that’s what jason’s commentors say:

Red, take it from me. You do NOT want to check these chicks out. By and large, I find the female body to be a thing of wonderment. What I saw Sunday and last night was abhorrent and disturbing to say the least. With so many women increasingly not giving a rip about how they look, I can start to understand why more guys are going gay.

LOL!

Editor!? Oh God. Must have been because he had the color printer.

Spaghetti, I’ve been wondering this same thing. They work so hard to defend Richey Rich Wall Streeters. Also the tea partiers and rural red-staters voting against their interests. They seem to believe they are part of the upper class and can’t wrap their tiny minds around the fact that they are lumped in with the lowly have-nots.

Anybody know WTF that’s all about?

Opera is a bit strict about some of it’s Javascript interpretation, and way too many web “coders” don’t know what the fuck they’re doing. That’s a bad combination.

Hey, man, those smelly, beef-jerky-munching, Budweiser-swilling, NASCAR-watching, pig-fucking, daughter-raping, illiterate and uneducated redneck morons at Tea Party rallies all deserve to be neutered and butt fucked by gorillas.

See, we can all play this game.

Hey, I’m getting into hippie territory—my hair’s getting long because I wasted money on rent and food instead of getting my hair cut, and I haven’t showered in a couple of days because we’ve got the Mother of All Clogs in the bathtub and the fourth dose of Drano didn’t do the job. Maybe I could get some asshole to write an article about me? What do I have to protest?

Right, Jason. I am sure the Tea Party rallies smelled like roses that shoot CK1.

but the tea partiers left their protest sites pristine according to the comments section…people have to be paid to clean up after the dfhs, not to mention the extra police and the cost of medical aid to the inordinate amount of police officers who are apparently being ruffed up at the smellfest…hey, all i can say is, these dfhs are actually job creators!

I’m a hippy

Hey, I’m getting into hippie territory

let’s quit talking about hips now, mmmkay? i feel bad enough for eating most of the halloween candy on my desk…

Since I have Discuss, I thought I’d leave this fucking prick a comment. Not my best work because I’m in a hurry, but should get some good flaming going.

Jason, you are clearly an uneducated fool. You have no clue why these people are protesting or anything else about which you’re squealing. I know this because this is a giant ad hominem attack and completely ignores reality. You actually lie more than few times in this piece. Please try harder from now on.

Here’s a rotten fetid and completely insane (also AWESOME!) mango from the comments:

One of the co-sponsors is CODE PINK and a shadow co-sponsor is Peace Action headed by Judith LeBlanc who is also co-head of United for Peace and Justice which are both fronts of the Communist Party USA. Their recent endeavor was the “Audacity of Hope” Hamas flotilla that was stopped in its tracks in Greece but Medea Benjamin, of Code Pink, and other members directed by the CPUSA, then went to the central square in Athens and protested with the leaders of the Greece protests: The Greek Communist Party, who our Communist Party USA just two weeks earlier declared official “Solidarity with the Greek Communist Party.” These Wall Street protests are being portrayed as “leader-less,” but according to my extensive research which revealed their leaders, are directly, and indirectly, connected to the Communist Party USA! They are the sheepherders only watching, but directing, from a distance. There is no difference between their mission and daily talking points and the tactics of the Democrat Party! The only question is who comes up with them first and my belief is it’s the CPUSA but make no mistake, this ties in DIRECTLY with the Greek Communist Party and their whining about the same entitlement society that is wreaking havoc on the banks and corporate world!

The blaming of Wall Street, the Tea Party “sons a bitches,” especially the Republican Party, and countless attacks on the wars and our soldiers that they supposedly support, is just the latest of CPUSA missions, and their dupes, including most Democrats in Congress who have sided with Communists/VietCong/Sandinistas/Castro since their sixties days, TO SAVE OBAMA, also a child of sixties radicals and who was a DUPE himself in his college, and church days, on top of weed smoking, coke snorting and his own dealing days!

Those Communists/VietCong/Sandinistas/Castro are so SCARY!!!1one!

i feel bad enough for eating most of the halloween candy on my desk…

Hey, at least you made it last almost a year.

(Unless it was intended for this year.)

…according to my extensive research which revealed their leaders, are directly, and indirectly, connected to the Communist Party USA!

You know it’s extensive because of the exclamation point.

except those are all things said by every single liberal blog and MSNBC about tea partiers

Please cite every single liberal blog. I can wait.

Dennis, if you’ve read “every single liberal blog,” you must have an awful lot of time on your hands.

Which somehow doesn’t surprise me.

The blaming of Wall Street, the Tea Party “sons a bitches,” especially the Republican Party, and countless attacks on the wars and our soldiers that they supposedly support

I noticed this on facebook too, but man, they really took the “sons of bitches” comment seriously. It was pretty clearly directed at politicians, who have shit like this thrown at them all the time, but the entire right wing constituency sort of gasped like they’d just been slapped in the face for the first time in their lives.

Poor babies.

…since the very first protests back in 2009.

Hm. 2009. Someone remind me, what changed in 2009 that would get a bunch of old Birchers conservatives all up in arms?

Poor babies.

Liberals are SO MEAN.

Hey, um, when did we as a nation collectively decide that the hippies were wrong about things.

I mean, sure, we’ve made a 30-year-long game about how they can’t be seen as SRS BZNIS because they have long hair, bring puppets to protest movements, smoke pot, and don’t repress their sexual desires like proper Americans, but when exactly did we decide that they were wrong.

Cause it seems that for all the “ignore this person, he doesn’t even wear a suit”, the hippies have been riding a 40 year buzz (see what I did there) of being right on pretty much every issue they really went out and talked about.

Vietnam was a colossal fuckup that was being needlessly extended because military officials didn’t want to have a “loss” on the record and that cost was paid in the blood of their friends. Marijuana is a less dangerous drug than cigarettes and alcohol and there still isn’t a non-hippie-punching reason for banning it. Women entering the workforce didn’t cause dogs and cats to sleep with each other. Similarly, actually looking at consent has given us hotter sex, not the end of sex. Blacks having the rights to vote didn’t bring about the reverse slavery of whites or the wholescale slaughter of white white-color workers. Similarly, allowing gays equal rights has not taken bread from the table or legitimately harmed a single straight couple. Their critiques of unregulated capitalism, over-reliance on fossil fuels, lack of environmental regulations, and over-reliance on the service economy to prop up the general American economy all turned out 100% correct.

I mean, you might be able to get them on thinking acid was safe. That definitely was in the hippie fuckup column, but that certainly is a better record than any number of besuited “respectable community members” on prognosticating powers.

I mean, the suits couldn’t even figure out that a crash was coming when it was leaving little notes on its cubicle and flashing its big white bloomers outside their offices. The hippies on the other hand managed to pick every single right side on every major civil rights movement in the latter half of the 20th century and get right a number of economic and environmental predictors as well. While completely wasted on drugs.

I mean, fuck, that’s a pretty impressive feat right there.

So, we’re supposed to ignore all that, because? They don’t wear suits and have “respectable” accents and engage in behaviors the people who have been wrong about every major social battle of the 20th century would disapprove of?

Uh huh.

Here’s what I’d like to see. The day when a suit didn’t give one unearned credibility and where wearing a beat down shirt and dreds didn’t make you instantly uncredible unto your very movement.

But yeah, let’s continue punching the people who are always right for not giving us enough of a hard-on about role-play fetish gear while they’re right.

WAHHHHHH!!!!

THE LIEBERALS ARE BEING MEAN TO ME!!!!!!!

Hey, um, when did we as a nation collectively decide that the hippies were wrong about things.

We didn’t. Not really: the average American in this day and age does not want a return to segregation, or fifteenth-century sexual morality, or the draft, or any of those other things that the wave of change in the sixties did away with. But we’ll still continue to damn to the depths the people who made these changes happen, even as we enjoy the changes themselves.

Why is that? Search me. But it’s probably the same reason why people bitterly resent Big Gubmint Bureaucrats having their nose in everything, even as they furiously cling to their Medicare, their Social Security and all the other services that’re made possible by them.

Causality is for FAGS!

That’s why liberals started by being mean to teabaggers for no reason and why the teabaggers were forced! Forced! I tell you to orient their entire ideology around making hippies cry. Also, liberals invented the term teabagger, QED.

STOP IGNORING ME!

I IZ SMART! I SUCK DICK GOOD! WHY MUST YOU IGNORE ME?!?

Chris:

Yeah, if I had to guess it’s that humans really hate to be wrong and especially hate to be wrong against people they have wound themselves to hate.

So enjoying the benefits of post-60s social revolution just made them more bitterly opposed to it and even more enraged of hippies, because now those filthy little punks not only got to have a better life than them, but also had the satisfaction of being right.

The bit about teaturds leaving the mall “pristine” just amazed me. We’re back to “bad” and “good” not being moral distinctions anymore, but just team names. (I think that was Chris, but I don’t remember so good)

Am I the only one who remembers the pictures of the little redneck children using the WWII Memorial Fountain as their fucking wading-pool/pisshole? The level of disconnect that allows hordes of people to wander by this and have no one say “Get your filthy fucking spawn out of there!” is mind boggling. I’d love to see their reaction to some swarthy Middle-easterner taking a big dump into the 911 Memorial. Oh, but IOKIYAR.

Well, that and the fact that the corporations, large religions, and all the other groups who make a killing on the status quo, have noticed that the hippies were right and need us desperately thinking otherwise to keep us from engaging in hippie practices on a wide-spread level in ways that would massively fuck up profits.

As long as we’re thinking about how much they smell or how they have stupid clothes or that one stoner in college who you just disliked on principle, you aren’t thinking about collective resistance to corporate oppression, massive social change, and individual reduction in consumption among other things. Nor are you noticing that we’ve hit the pause button on further political change due to social factors for at least 30 years and that means we’re overdue.

It also keeps liberals feeding the Overton Window. As long as hippie can be a cudgel, you’ll have no end to liberals adding conservative caveats to their opinions so they don’t look like “strung-out hippies”, thus allowing the “reasonable centrists” to argue that the middle is somewhere between tepid moderation and full-on theocratic revolution.

There’s a lot riding on having people reflexively back away from the ideas that have consistently proven accurate because of trained pavlovian response.

Also on the hippie/teabagger duality topic: I can understand why people see some similarities between them, but I missed the part where teabaggers got maced, arrested, shot at or guarded with rows of bayonets the same way the hippies of yesterday and today (depending on which action we’re talking about: graciously, they don’t shoot hippies anymore) have.

Hey, man, those smelly, beef-jerky-munching, Budweiser-swilling, NASCAR-watching, pig-fucking, daughter-raping, illiterate and uneducated redneck morons at Tea Party rallies all deserve to be neutered and butt fucked by gorillas

Considering how male gorillas are hung, that’s being incredibly kind. Better to wish elephant intercourse on them.

Hogeye Grex-

I always assumed that was a clumsy dog whsitle. You know, they left it “clean” because they were white middle class people and so as whiteness they couldn’t stain the white paper of respectability no matter actual actions.

But the Obama inauguration was filled with black people who are “filthy” and “dirty” by default and of course inherently have no respect for public or private property because of their “inherent natures” and by being black inherently stain the purity of any white space they touch.

So, it didn’t really matter what actual trash or what actual events took place, only that by being white they “restored” the “stains” endured by having this white space invaded by black heathens.

But yeah, I remember that bullshit being mocked on a literal level like five seconds after they tried to pull it. Right after they made fun of their x1000 style mathematics to try and make themselves seem bigger.

…we’ve got the Mother of All Clogs in the bathtub and the fourth dose of Drano didn’t do the job.

Have you tried removing the drain strainer? Both of my tubs were running sluggishly and the Drano wasn’t helping; when I removed the drain screen from one and the pop-up drain plug from the other, I found hairballs the size of mice right there under the drain covers. Most tub drains aren’t like sink drains – the drain line makes an immediate turn to near-horizontal right below the drain – so clogs are usually right there at the drain opening, rather than down a ways in a trap as with a sink..

their x1000 style mathematics to try and make themselves seem bigger.

VmagnifyingglassR

Cerb-

Elites milk it for all it’s worth, but you’re right, “I hate being wrong” is probably the biggest part of it.

HG –

Yep, the “bad and good being team identities not moral distinctions” thing
was me, thanks for remembering!

Chris:

It’s the magic of the moderate. All you need to do is see them as two sides of each other, then all of the qualities of both become exactly equal. So teabaggers gain all the history of being oppressed, ignored, and belittled by their counterparts on the otherside that hippies had (you know actually being attacked by police regularly for 40 years including several famous murders of unarmed kids by cops and right-wing terrorists).

And since fair is fair, hippies gain all the gross offensive behavior of their teabagger cousins, including vile hatred, complete lack of understanding of what they are protesting, a habit of thinking they are bigger than they are so we can ignore their actual numbers, and being represented and align only with the “fringe” of their demographics.

Once, this magic has been complete, we then pity the teabaggers their oppression and the hippies for being vile hypocrites, because the media was once liberal or so they say (tell it to all the papers who called MLK a communist agitator back in the day or criticized the Civil Rights Movement for being strident or the Kent State kids for not knowing better than to run from the men with guns) and it’s time to make that up.

That can be extrapolated for everything and why when a right-winger goes on their biannual rampages, the only people who seem to get criticized for it is the “left”.

we’ve got the Mother of All Clogs in the bathtub

You’ve been sabotaged.

And yeah, reading the old news stories on causes or events that have been obvious in retrospect puts into strong perspective the lie that the media was ever “liberal”. When the most common reaction to Kent State in the media was “kids had it coming”, well, let’s just say our current problems with media aren’t exactly “new”.

They’ve always been apologizing for Watergate, before there was a Watergate to apologize for.

Yep, the “bad and good being team identities not moral distinctions” thing
was me, thanks for remembering!

Thank you. I use it regularly.

You’ve been sabotaged.

People have been shod for less.

It’s the magic of the moderate. All you need to do is see them as two sides of each other

Yeah, it even makes superficial sense. Nobody’s perfect, right? Everyone has their good points and bad points. And it’s important to keep an open mind and listening to good ideas no matter where they come from.

I bought the “moderate” thing when I started following politics, until enough exposure to both sides revealed that, well, it’s bullshit.

The same insults were hurled at the ordinary people who protested Wisconsin fascism a few months ago. They were accused of “flea bagging” and “stinking up” the state capitol just because they were exercising their Constitutional free speech and right to petition the government. The line about “…what if Teabaggers got pepper sprayed…” is a huge fucking joke because it’s never happened and never will even when they act like an unruly mob, spit on congressmen, and bring guns to political rallies.

You’ve been sabotaged.

People have been shod for less.

I see what you did there.

Damn sneaky Dutchmen……..

RWW-

Yeah, it is consistently humorous as a member of multiple oppressed minority groups how much the powerful and oppressing classes seem to straight up envy the life of the oppressed, specifically usually the obvious righteous anger and the small comfort that comes from standing up for a righteous cause.

I guess, it makes sense, if it’s all a game anyways, who would you rather role-play as, the conquering army of the evil tyrant or the tiny band of brothers, beaten and harassed yet never destroyed?

Probably why they think minorities are always getting away with a sweet deal that’s denied to them. They get to be the awesome good guys, why can’t they be the awesome good guys and because it’s all a game, the actual downsides of oppression must be as ignorable and meaningless as encumbrance or food supplies in most D&D campaigns.

it’s never happened and never will even when they act like an unruly mob, spit on congressmen, and bring guns to political rallies.

Cops know the rules: Keep Off the Astroturf.

The line about “…what if Teabaggers got pepper sprayed…” is a huge fucking joke because it’s never happened and never will even when they act like an unruly mob, spit on congressmen, and bring guns to political rallies.

There’s a longstanding tradition that allows conservative popular movements, violent or nonviolent, to get away with virtually anything, while liberal popular movements are supposed to be treated as potential terrorists even when they have no creed of violence, record of violence or any indication that that might change.

Hence why Hoover’s FBI had surveillance, disruption and everything else targeted on MLK and the civil rights movement, but had to be kicked in the ass several times to investigate KKK murders.

People have been shod for less.

Substance McGravitas is a mocker-son.

Ugg! Boo!

Yeah, it is consistently humorous as a member of multiple oppressed minority groups how much the powerful and oppressing classes seem to straight up envy the life of the oppressed, specifically usually the obvious righteous anger and the small comfort that comes from standing up for a righteous cause.

Because it’s not enough for them to be assholes. They want to be loved for being assholes. It’s why during the Iraq war, they were so furious with the “ingratitude” of the Iraqi people, despite the fact that so many of them hated the Iraqi people’s stinking guts and said so at every opportunity.

And I don’t think that’s just them being assholes for the sake of being assholes: they really expect their victims to get right up and thank them, they really think they deserve it, and the moral outrage when they don’t get it is completely sincere.

And I don’t think that’s just them being assholes for the sake of being assholes: they really expect their victims to get right up and thank them, they really think they deserve it, and the moral outrage when they don’t get it is completely sincere.

This is also a perfect description of the behavior of every troll we’ve ever seen here. Also too.

And why ELF is at the TOP of the domestic terror threat list though their death toll is… zero.

Anyhoo, I asked the question not because it would ever happen, but wondering if in considering the possibility teabaggers might could get their minds around being anti-police brutality. Ever the optimist, I suppose.

This was always my favorite ELF. That and all the elf beers linked to several threads back.

Chris-

And I don’t think that’s just them being assholes for the sake of being assholes: they really expect their victims to get right up and thank them, they really think they deserve it, and the moral outrage when they don’t get it is completely sincere.

It’s because of Calvinism.

They are the Elect, chosen by God, you can see that in their favored status of being white well-off Christian heterosexual males, and as such should be given their due as the Elect. Because they are so chosen by God, they have obviously earned their position with God, by being such great people, such deserving people, by having great intelligence and moral fiber, and being a natural leader of men.

And as such, all lesser beings should recognize that on sight and praise that.

It’s that combined with their sneaking, sinking suspicion that they haven’t earned jack shit, that the mean old hippies were right and they were really born on third, the spoiled son of a millionaire. And all that belief in them being the Elect is the only thing between them and having to come face to face with who they really are.

Thus, it becomes even more important to reinforce it constantly by paying flunkies to continuously repeat it for you, for governments to beg and grovel in front of you, and for your victims to constantly thank you for the feel of your iron-clad boots upon your neck.

Because otherwise, they might be alone with their own Elect selves and the horror that can bring.

For the flunkies, it’s about sunk costs. They’ve put so much emotional investment in this worldview that if they backed out now, what were all those years spent fluffing evil? And what would that make them? Thus, their masters are always good and their turn on the Elect wheel is coming any day now as long as they keep putting money into the machine.

And as some nitwit linked by Substance a day or two pointed out, periodic crises are part and parcel of capitalism.

It takes all the fun out of trolling Crooked Timber when one of the bloggers there is already trolling his and his co-bloggers’ threads.

And why ELF is at the TOP of the domestic terror threat list though their death toll is… zero.

This is nothing new. Remember when the Unabomber was out there with his Mary-had-a-little-lamb haircut and hoodie? There was ONE sorta-kinda-left-wing-or-at-least-not-easily-identifiable-right-wing “terrorist” loose, and that’s all they’d talk about for 20 years. Meanwhile these Black Hundred militia groups were arming themselves to the teeth all over the country…meh!

There was this guy I knew in college who I was friends with for like 10-12 years, and the whole time, my other friends kept saying, “why are friends with _______, he’s a stuck up asshole,” and I would always say, “oh, you just don’t know ________, he’s a good guy.” Until one day when _______ did something that you just wouldn’t do to someone who’s been your friend for 10 years UNLESS you were a huge, stuck up asshole. As I told him, I was less upset about the asshole thing he did than I was for all those years I took up for him with people who weren’t assholes and who accurately saw him for what he was.

That is, I was mad at him more for having made a fool of me. I suspect the same thing may occur with republicants, but, unlike me, they are unable to admit ever being WRONG about anything, so they have to just go on pretending that they aren’t being made fools of, if and when they ever figure out that they’re being played for suckers.

Oh, and Jennifer—thanks for the suggestion, but there’s a steel bar in the drainpipe that the strainer was supposed to screw into that makes it impossible even to get a snake in there. The maintenance guy is going to have to get at the trap from the basement, when of if I can get ahold of him. We’ve got three apartments above us, so it’s trapping for three, but we’re the ones who get the backup.

For the flunkies, it’s about sunk costs. They’ve put so much emotional investment in this worldview that if they backed out now, what were all those years spent fluffing evil?

I have to disagree with this part. The people I know who are what I’d call “Teaparty sympathisers” know something’s wrong but have half-thought-out, not very well reasoned responses based on partial knowledge of events, their own biases and emotions. If they were raised conservative and “patriotic” (symbolically speaking), they are going to be sympathetic to the nonsense the Teabaggers spout and it’s really hard to disabuse them of their opinions.

Then there’s the evangelical nutcases, who are totally beyond reason.

WC-

Yeah, that’s what I’m talking about. They know something’s up and they might be semi-aware that it’s related to the exact sort of things they’ve spent their lives fighting for, but cognitive dissonance protects itself and the horror of having to acknowledge you’ve wasted your life, making it deliberately worse for something that was wrong to bout, is just too much.

So they latch on to whatever weak sauce self-justification or convenient scapegoat for all their problems like it was the last lifeboat off the Titanic, because actually having to engage with the hard work of emotional honesty is just too daunting to even face consciously much less attempt.

Remember all the asshole Republican congressmen running around with blue thumbs in fake solidarity with the Iraqis voting after the downfall of Sadam’s regime. Irony number one is those Iraqis were voting in sharia law. Irony number two: Republicans will deploy every possible strategy to deny ballot box access to as many people as possible in this country. No “blue thumb” election will ever be allowed here.

Remember all the asshole Republican congressmen running around with blue thumbs in fake solidarity with the Iraqis voting after the downfall of Sadam’s regime. Irony number one is those Iraqis were voting in sharia law. Irony number two: Republicans will deploy every possible strategy to deny ballot box access to as many people as possible in this country. No “blue thumb” election will ever be allowed here.

Couple things:

1) I don’t think Repubs give a shit about Sharia Law over there. Whatever the hell the Iraqis voted for, it’s not nearly as out there as the insane theo-monarchy in Saudi Arabia, and we’re just fine with that one. Doesn’t matter what a government believes, as long as we can get it to serve our interests.

2) You left out irony number three, which is that we didn’t actually want elections, at least not that soon – they were basically forced on us by public pressure with Ayatollah Sistani leading the charge. As they so often do over here, they were taking credit for something they’d resisted all along.

Remember all the asshole Republican congressmen running around with blue thumbs in fake solidarity with the Iraqis voting after the downfall of Sadam’s regime. Irony number one is those Iraqis were voting in sharia law. Irony number two: Republicans will deploy every possible strategy to deny ballot box access to as many people as possible in this country. No “blue thumb” election will ever be allowed here.

I think it’s a conscious ratfuck. They believe actual democracy will hobble any government they can impose it on. Just like the way the Socialist constitution MacArthur imposed on Japan was the exact opposite of everything he believed in, so he thought it would keep them wallowing in primitive misery forever—oops!

Chris,
Glenn Beck and the droolers who vote Repuke care about sharia law everywhere. The 3rd Mahdi, the Antichrist, or a return of Francis The Talking Mule will be ushered in once sharia law encircles the Earth. I know other ironies abound. Like Iran becoming a much more powerful player in the region thanks to our glorious little war and lost blood and treasure.

Because it’s not enough for them to be assholes. They want to be loved for being assholes.

That pretty much sums it all up, except that after “loved” it should also say “admired, respected, praised, acclaimed, and worshiped.”

You are right Rev. Although in any other country MacArthur would have been lined up against a wall and given what he deserved.

Twice he mentions that women who should not be “baring” themselves and who evidently disgust him had the temerity to protest.

I guess if woman is scantily-clad and doesn’t give him a boner, she should refrain from having opinions in public.

Oh, and not to be all tit for tat, so to speak, but…

Because it’s not enough for them to be assholes. They want to be loved for being assholes.

If you don’t love them for being assholes, you’re censoring them…somehow…

BTW, I’m calling “super-upset he wasn’t allowed to sit at the cool table” on this guy. Jesus christ, what a SCHMUCK.

Like I said, dude is one “pig-biting mad” away from being Ed Anger in the late, great Weekly World News.

Speaking of muslin…
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Speaking of muslin…

Okay. Memo to the Muslim community, concerning conservatives:

1) They don’t like you.

2) They’ll never like you.

3) Many Americans have noticed the near-superhuman efforts so many American Muslims put in the last decade into denouncing 9/11, helping out the cops and feds, doing everything they could to prove they were good citizens, and they truly acknowledge and appreciate those things. Conservatives are not among them. That stuff just makes them angrier.

4) Since Muslim Americans were a solid GOP base until very recently, I’d consider the last ten years a memo to all minority Americans who’re in the Republican Party. You may think you’ve carved out a niche for yourself, but it’s not your party, it never will be, and they’ll turn on you in a nanosecond if they think there’s any political gain in it for them. This past decade, it was Muslim Americans. If tomorrow they decide that Cuban or Vietnamese Americans should be next, their historic Republican majorities won’t make a damn bit of difference.

Dear Conservative Weenie Twats:

Thanks to the efforts of DFHs, your useless ass can’t be drafted, pounded into somewhat better shape in boot camp, hauled off to Iraq or Afghanistan, shot to shit and returned home in slightly less than factory-fresh condition.

Hmmm.

Fucking hippies!

Damn. Killed thread. Apologies.

Oh wow, that’s timing for you! Thanks Arky, I concur and think most of them would too if they weren’t too busy hippie-punching.

More Rethugs being asshats
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VRBK: you can get behind the strainer by unscrewing the cover where the lever to stop / unstop the tub drain is. There will be a long rod with a plug that you’ll pull out and then you can get a snake down inside.

Also. You guys making shoe jokes are just being lazy. That’s right, I’m calling you a bunch of loafers.

That’s right, I’m calling you a bunch of loafers.

Sock it to them!

we’ve got the Mother of All Clogs in the bathtub

You need to do the Clog Dance.

Honestly, until a few plutocrats’ blood runs in the streets, and they have to consider paying $480K/year for personal security vs. $500K/year in taxes, this shit will stay the same.

Took a glance at the article. Yeah that’s some really very good writin’ there, dude.

Anyway, I much prefer your ‘shopped photo of that guy to the one on his article.

Yeah, that’s what I’m talking about. They know something’s up and they might be semi-aware that it’s related to the exact sort of things they’ve spent their lives fighting for, but cognitive dissonance […]

I’m pretty sure this sort of thing explains goldbugs and Ron Paulites. They know the economic system is rigged, so they turn to…the monetary system as the real culprit. It makes absolutely no sense, doesn’t account for the many severe economic crashes that happened before the Fed and on the Gold standard, but at least it does acknowledge there is something wrong.

Now if only we could get them away from probably the only solution out there that would actually make things even worse. Picture the Ron Paul Presidency: Hooray we’re back on the gold standard, now the banksters who were robbing us all blind are even richer and we can add crippling deflation to our list of problems, Yay!

Sock it to them!

Perhaps if I adopted a brogue they’d listen.

You need to do the Clog Dance.

Wooden shoe buncha heels please hold your tongues?

Hey! It was just a joke!!

we’ve got the Mother of All Clogs in the bathtub

This long and still no “Sounds like a job for DKW”?

Via Kos, a juicy Moonie mango
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/jul/21/obamas-culture-of-death/
Abortion is liberalism’s genocide. Since Roe v. Wade, nearly 50 million babies have been killed – lives exterminated in the womb of their mothers. Abortion clinics are the Gulag Archipelago of the modern left – a vast system of death camps underpinning the liberal regime’s secular hedonism. For a godless society predicated upon consequence-free sex, pregnancy is an unwanted nuisance – and a barrier – that must be eliminated. If lives are destroyed, then that is the price of sexual utopia. This is why liberals adamantly refuse to defund Planned Parenthood. And it is why Mr. Obama staunchly supports the government financing of abortion services: It encodes the pernicious principle that an entire category of people – the unborn – are less than fully human and therefore can be arbitrarily extinguished.

the whole editorial is one putrid mango. The above paragraph was missing something. Soros, Alinsky . . . something. Oh here it is.

“The modern left understands one fundamental reality: Destroying Christianity destroys the culture and civilization it spawned. They are inextricably linked. This is why socialists, such as Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels, Vladimir Lenin, Leon Trotsky, Saul Alinsky and George Soros, have championed militant anti-Christianity, free love, contraception and abortion. Smash the family and traditional morality and the economic system they gave birth to – capitalism – will come crashing down. This is the Marxist project: Sweep the Christian West into the dustbin of history.”

Yeah, idiot………………..what a shame we don’t have 50 million more people in this country right now.
Plus their kids too.

Idiot.

The Riddler vs. the Joker:

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/conrad-black/conrad-black-book_b_983065.html

Do you know the quickest way to make this country more Christian? Let in more Mexicans. Funny how they never propose that intit.

Smash the family and traditional morality and the economic system they gave birth to – capitalism – will come crashing down. This is the Marxist project: Sweep the Christian West into the dustbin of history.

Oddly, Adam Smith had very little to say on the “family system” because, you know, HE WAS AN ECONOMIST!

Chris: Hence why Hoover’s FBI had surveillance, disruption and everything else targeted on MLK and the civil rights movement, but had to be kicked in the ass several times to investigate KKK murders.

FTFY

socialists, such as Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels, Vladimir Lenin, Leon Trotsky, Saul Alinsky and George Soros, have championed militant anti-Christianity, free love, contraception and abortion

Citation: My ass (2011).

Do you know the quickest way to make this country more Christian? Let in more Mexicans.

Silly boy! Messicans aren’t Christian! They’re Catholic!

we’ve got the Mother of All Clogs in the bathtub

This long and still no “Sounds like a job for DKW”?

Why send in a worm when you need a snake?

Damn. Tag fail.

Since Roe v. Wade, nearly 50 million babies have been killed – lives exterminated in the womb of their mothers.

And yet, the birth rate has stayed exactly the same, despite a declining economic condition.

Which means those babies are being born when women have more stable and secure futures.

But hey, don’t stand in the way of the truth, y’know?

Via Kos, a juicy Moonie mango

Venture capitalist Jesus approved.
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Hey, Danni, grow a set, will ya? You’re embarassing the entire male population of the world.

yeah, Christianity and capitalism are practically the same. Like practically totes identical. It’s all explained right here:

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+4%3A32-37&version=NIV

That’s Acts 4: 32-37. Describing economic policy among the first generation of Jesus-followers.

(And yes, these verses have historically inspired major Christian communist movements, including the Diggers of England in the mid-17th c.)

It encodes the pernicious principle that an entire category of people – the unborn – are less than fully human and therefore can be arbitrarily extinguished.

Longer actor: “I don’t want to live (or die) in a country that cheers the death penalty for vile murders against humans, but 50 million babies aborted is a small price to pay for economic stability.”

In 2000, for women whose weeks of gestation at the time of abortion were adequately reported, 57% of reported legal induced abortions were known to have been obtained at[ less than] 8 weeks of gestation, and 87% at [less than] 13 weeks (Table 6). Overall, 23% of abortions were known to have been performed at [less than] 6 weeks of gestation, 18% at 7 weeks, and 17% at 8 weeks (Table 7). Few reported abortions occurred after 15 weeks of gestation; 4.3% were at 16–20 weeks, and 1.4% were at >21 weeks.

The modern left understands one fundamental reality: Destroying Christianity destroys the culture and civilization it spawned. They are inextricably linked. This is why socialists, such as Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels, Vladimir Lenin, Leon Trotsky, Saul Alinsky and George Soros, have championed militant anti-Christianity, free love, contraception and abortion. Smash the family and traditional morality and the economic system they gave birth to – capitalism – will come crashing down. This is the Marxist project: Sweep the Christian West into the dustbin of history.

Well, except for the part where Western civilization was “spawned” by the Greco-Romans centuries before there was any such thing as a Christian, and aside from the fact that the Founding Fathers explicitly created a nation that’s “militantly anti-Christian” by the standards of this guy, and then there’s the fact that capitalism doesn’t have a damn thing to do with Christianity and that quite a few of the people who were pushing it, the liberal movements of the nineteenth century, were doing so as part of a broader secular and democratic agenda that traditional Christian institutions, especially the Catholic Church, resisted every step of the way.

Aside from all that, then, this guy sort of has a… damn, there’s not really much left. Never mind, he’s full of shit.

bbkf said,
September 28, 2011 at 14:56

You never hear the dirtiest, fuckingest hippie ever cheer for an abortion.

Only for the right for a woman to decide whether she wants a baby or not.

Only a fascist would force someone to keep her own fetus. Only a fascist would force the state to kill someone.

Sadly, Danni doesn’t seem to want to live in anything BUT a fascist state. Perhaps he’s a Saudi?

“The modern left understands one fundamental reality: Destroying Christianity destroys the culture and civilization it spawned. They are inextricably linked.

Mmmmmm, nothing like the smell of wingnut projection in the morning. See, wiping out things–and I by things I mean folks who aren’t hyper-conservative white Christians–is the game of people who are Quiverfull. They want to take over the world with their home-stupided progeny. (Because they mistakenly believe children are programmable property.)

Here’s the thing: I’m “militantly” pro-choice. Not because I want women to abort their fetuses, but because I want them to have the CHOICE. If a woman is financially and emotionally willing and able to raise a child, and chooses to, I think that’s fantastic. I support that CHOICE 1000%.

Western civilization was “spawned” by the Greco-Romans

Damned gay wrestlers and their oiled bodies and spatulas.

Whoops! Probably gave Danni a boner there. Sorry, girlfriend!

I support that CHOICE 1000%

Hear hear!

“You know how to tell the American people what they need to hear. And I say this from the bottom of my heart, from my daughter who’s right here and my grandchildren who are at home. I know New Jersey needs you but I really implore you, I really do, — I’m not — this isn’t funny. I mean this with all my heart. We can’t wait another four years, to 2016. I really implore you as a citizen of this country to please, sir, to reconsider,” the woman said. “We need you. Your country needs you to run for president.”

“I hear exactly what you’re saying and I feel the passion with which you say it, and it touches me,” Christie replied. “I’m just a kid from Jersey who feels like he’s the luckiest guy in the world to have the opportunity that I have to be the governor of my state.”

Later, he added, “I thank you for what you’re saying and I take it in and I’m listening to every word of it and feeling it.”

“You know how to tell the American people what they need to hear. And I say this from the bottom of my heart, from my daughter who’s right here and my grandchildren who are at home. I know New Jersey needs you but I really implore you, I really do, — I’m not — this isn’t funny. I mean this with all my heart. We can’t wait another four years, to 2016. I really implore you as a citizen of this country to please, sir, to reconsider,” the woman said. “We need you. Your country needs you to run for president.”

“I hear exactly what you’re saying and I feel the passion with which you say it, and it touches me,” Christie replied. “I’m just a kid from Jersey who feels like he’s the luckiest guy in the world to have the opportunity that I have to be the governor of my state.”

Later, he added, “I thank you for what you’re saying and I take it in and I’m listening to every word of it and feeling it.”

HOT!!!

Y’all be nicer to Dennis, he’s just terrified of those Cthulhoid ladyparts.

those Cthulhoid lady parts

I knew they had teeth, but they’ve got tentacles, too? Good thing I’m nearsighted.

“You know how to tell the American people what they need to hear. And I say this from the bottom of my heart, from my daughter who’s right here and my grandchildren who are at home. I know New Jersey needs you but I really implore you, I really do, — I’m not — this isn’t funny. I mean this with all my heart. We can’t wait another four years, to 2016. I really implore you as a citizen of this country to please, sir, to reconsider,” the woman said. “We need you. Your country needs you to run for president.”

That’s so sweet of you, dear.

Unfortunately, your bloated, Jabba-wannabe, union-busting thug of a governor went and indulged one of his last lingering shreds of decency earlier this year by appointing a Muslim to some high position or other, and then told the Know-Nothing brigade to go fuck itself when they started their usual shtick.

Good luck getting that through a Republican primary.

Mat’s comment upthread will keep me chuckling all day. Thanks.

The GOP base keeps declaring their former Dream Candidates to be no good whenever they show any sort of compassion or decency. They hate Mitt because of Romneycare, they hate Perry for the vaccines, and they’ll hate Christie for saying nice things about a Muslim.

I’m honestly surprised they’re not trying to draft Limbaugh, Coulter, or Phelps.

I knew they had teeth, but they’ve got tentacles, too? Good thing I’m nearsighted.

I think his are spelled “testicles”. It’s hard to tell, all shriveled up like that.

I’m honestly surprised they’re not trying to draft Limbaugh, Coulter, or Phelps.

And yet, Will Bunch posted a piece at HuffPo (ewww, blech!) that the Teabaggers are nowhere to be found any longer. Except at GOP debates and even then, they’re crying in the wilderness.

In other news, Assrocket tries a neutrino experiment on Godwin’s Law.

Thanks, Ted!

How many Democrats are National Socialists at heart? Quite a few, I suspect, and every now and then the Democrats’ totalitarian urges break through to the surface. Thus, we have the Governor of North Carolina, Bev Perdue, suggesting that we “ought to suspend, perhaps, elections for Congress for two years.” The press assures us that she was just kidding. I would modestly submit that suspending elections is not something an elected executive should kid about.

If this were a dictatorship, it would be a hell of a lot easier to run. Just as long as I’m the dictator, aheh heh!

Gee, I wonder where he was when Rudy 9ui11ani was suggesting that the New York mayoral election should be postponed.

‘nother mango:

Sure: because the problem with democracy, as seen by liberals, as by National Socialists, is that voters have an inexplicable habit of electing conservatives.

Of course! That’s why Democrats are the ones openly trying to revoke the voting privileges of large classes of the population – people born here to illegal immigrants, people on welfare, people who live overseas, etc. Say what? That’s not the Democrats? Say what? That’s the Republicans? Well, I’ll be damned! Does this mean Republicans are National Socialists, now?

The problem with democracy, as seen by THIS liberal, is that a substantial portion of voters are inexplicably stupid and have a habit of electing – and then re-electing – people who screw them in the ass, hard. Then again, maybe they’re insane rather than stupid, since doing the same thing (electing conservatives who fuck you, not in a pleasurable way but in a lightsoutsocksonmanontopgetitoverwithquick way) over and over again and expecting a different outcome is a hallmark of insanity.

To paraphrase that saying often used in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict: the ordinary citizen in the United States will finally get a break when he decides he’s more concerned about the welfare of his family than he is with fucking over the ni**ers, and votes accordingly.

Gee, I wonder where he was when Rudy 9ui11ani was suggesting that the New York mayoral election should be postponed.

Or when Michael Bloomberg (R-formerely a democrat until he realized he couldn’t win the mayoral primary) decided to ignore the newly passed term limits law and ran for a third term?

How many Democrats are National Socialists at heart?

Wait. He leaps the Conclusion Chasm based on the fact that Orzag, who WORKS FOR CITIBANK NOW, says some of our *political institutions* have to be a little less democratic?

Did he even bother to ask Orzag what he meant?

Let me be more specific in the context of fiscal policy, which was at the heart of the debt-limit debate. Virtually all responsible economists agree that we should be aiming to reduce the deficit in the long-term but not in the short-term. We need an even larger deficit in 2011 and 2012, to support a weak economy—but a much smaller deficit in 2020 and 2050, to put the nation back on a sustainable fiscal course. Yet our polarized political system has proved incapable of reaching a consensus on this common-sense approach.

What we need, then, are ways around our politicians. The first would be to expand automatic stabilizers—those tax and spending provisions that automatically expand when the economy weakens, thereby cushioning the blow, and automatically contract as the economy recovers, thereby helping to reduce the deficit. A progressive tax code is one such automatic stabilizer. The tax code takes less of your income as that income declines, so after-tax income tends to decline less in response to an economic shock than pre-tax income. Since spending is based on after-tax income, the impact on the economy is cushioned. Alan Auerbach of the University of California at Berkeley has found that, as a result, the tax code has, over the past 50 years, offset about 8 percent of the initial shock to GDP from economic downturns. For the same reason, making the tax code more progressive would strengthen its role as an automatic stabilizer. Unemployment insurance is another automatic stabilizer; as the economy weakens, unemployment insurance expands, providing a boost to demand right when the economy needs it.

Other automatic stabilizers are possible as well. For instance, rather than simply extending and expanding the existing payroll-tax holiday, as President Obama has proposed, policymakers should permanently link the tax to the unemployment rate. Consider a system under which the payroll tax would be reduced by 6 percentage points whenever the quarterly average unemployment rate exceeded 7.5 percent or increased by more than 2 percentage points over the previous year. Since a cut in the payroll tax is a powerful form of stimulus, this would be a built-in way to ensure a quick and effective government response to an economic downturn.

So basically, set a policy or two– you know like how we subsidize oil companies when oil goes below $50 a barrel?– to kick in automatically.

Something that a law would have to be passed to do and debated in Congress and subject to, um, a democratic vote!

How many Democrats are National Socialists at heart? Quite a few, I suspect,

And this, Ladies & Germs, is the essence of their scientific analysis: ask a hypothetical-yet-negative question, then answer it using “gut facts.”

To paraphrase that saying often used in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict: the ordinary citizen in the United States will finally get a break when he decides he’s more concerned about the welfare of his family than he is with fucking over the ni**ers, and votes accordingly.

Well played. I’ve used the same paraphrase to make the same point myself.

And this, Ladies & Germs, is the essence of their scientific analysis: ask a hypothetical-yet-negative question, then answer it using “gut facts.”

That. And projection. The point of which is to justify what you want to do by convincing yourself that the other side’s already doing it so it’s okay if you do it as well, in fact you have to do it as well (in this case, suppress votes and democracy).

The point of which is to justify what you want to do by convincing yourself that the other side’s already doing it so it’s okay if you do it as well, in fact you have to do it as well (in this case, suppress votes and democracy).

Or, from little ACORNs mighty oak trees grow.

Abortion is liberalism’s genocide.

Indeed, we will not rest until every fetus is killed! Then we will usher in a new world wait, what?

are less than fully human and therefore can be arbitrarily extinguished.

Therefore? Arbitrary must not mean what I thought it did.

The problem with democracy, as seen by THIS liberal…

I see it as

1) We have a G.O.P. that is 100% dedicated to plutocrat welfare while screwing over everyone else, and a so-called opposition party whose positions are defined by being only 90% as evil as wherever the G.O.P. is at any given point in time,

and 2) a corrupt press that has dedicated itself to ensuring that any and all policy outcomes fall between those 100% and 90% plutocrat-friendly positions.
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Arbitrary must not mean what I thought it did.

Apparently, it means after days, weeks, or even months of agonizing decision-making and discussion, culminating in a tearful finality only usually expressed at funerals or when the Cheetos bag is empty.

Sure: because the problem with democracy, as seen by liberals, as by National Socialists, is that voters have an inexplicable habit of electing conservatives.

This explains president McCain.

Does this mean Republicans are National Socialists, now?

Watched a bit of “Triumph of the Will” last night, and yes.

Gamers help scientitians

No, this is not a repeat from last week

In an effort to circumvent the political correctness of calling them “n!ggers”, Alabama state Senator Scott Beason refers to his black constituents as “aborigines.”

For some reason, that didn’t fly, either.

That’s called gop outreach, actor.
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That’s called gop outreach, actor.

HA!

Actually, I can see that: “Yew abbos, yew shud vote foah me because Ah’m gonna brang yew gamblin’!”

And it is why Mr. Obama staunchly supports the government financing of abortion services:

He does? Did he issue an executive order to ignore the Hyde rule or something?

I did so close that tag.

I did so close that tag.

Ital it to the Marines…

DFHs The Next Generation.

Here’s the thing: I’m “militantly” pro-choice. Not because I want women to abort their fetuses, but because I want them to have the CHOICE. If a woman is financially and emotionally willing and able to raise a child, and chooses to, I think that’s fantastic. I support that CHOICE 1000%.

i’m given that an “amen” sister!

Later, he added, “I thank you for what you’re saying and I take it in and I’m listening to every word of it and feeling it.”

someone’s been eating their emotions…

I’m listening to every word of it and feeling it.

PERV.

someone’s been eating their emotions…

Emotions in New Jersey are high in saturated fats and cholesterol.

Emotions in New Jersey are high in saturated fats and cholesterol.

has someone developed a snooki cooki? that would be awesome…a white cookie cooked to a deep, orangish brown, with a mound of chocolate frosting…

Gamers help scientitians

those st00pid kids and their damned video games!!! *shaking fist*

Haha, DKW isn’t around to defend himself.
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Emotions in New Jersey are high in saturated fats and cholesterol.

And smell funny

Jason Mattera, a gung-ho patriotic American who opted not to enlist in the military and fight in Iraq because he heroically preferred to stay home and fight the culture war here in the USA.

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The problem with democracy, as seen by THIS liberal, is that a substantial portion of voters are inexplicably stupid and have a habit of electing – and then re-electing – people Democrats who screw them in the ass, hard. Then again, maybe they’re insane rather than stupid, since doing the same thing (electing conservatives Democrats who fuck you, not in a pleasurable way but in a lightsoutsocksonmanontopgetitoverwithquick way) over and over again and expecting a different outcome is a hallmark of insanity.

Fixxored to include both wings of the Corporate Party.

Armagayddon!

Armagayddon outta here before the queers ruin Dancing with the Stars!

WHAT DO YOU MEAN” IT’S TOO LATE?!!!!!!!!!!”

I knew they had teeth, but they’ve got tentacles, too?

Well, they did in The Tommyknockers but King says he was so lit up when he wrote it that even he doesn’t remember it, so maybe it doesn’t count.

In this economy what could be better than moar unwanted children?!!! AWESOME!

Armagayddon outta here before the queers ruin Dancing with the Stars!

I’m guessing you missed Nancy Grace’s nipple slip, then…

I’m guessing you missed Nancy Grace’s nipple slip, then…

dammit…i just got my gorge back down…

also too

In this economy what could be better than moar unwanted children?!!! AWESOME!

for wanting gubmint to stay OUT OF OUR BUSINESS, they sure want it in the ladybusines…see what did there?

and such,

In this economy what could be better than moar unwanted children?!!! AWESOME!

why don’t they spend some of that money on actual, living out of the womb, breathing, suffering children?

why don’t they spend some of that money on actual, living out of the womb, breathing, suffering children?

Now you’re just being silly, bbkf. If there are any children outside the womb suffering, they probably deserve to.

200!

Normally I’m kind of “John Stewart, eh, can you be any more equal-sides-everyone-is-bad kinda stupid?”, but his riff on Faux News’ gay panic over Chaz and the “eh” response to Vesty Pants Suit’s nipple slip was funny.

And I can’t even make a joke about forced birth. I start seeing red and wanting to punch a Republican.

BEES!

Normally I’m kind of “John Stewart, eh, can you be any more equal-sides-everyone-is-bad kinda stupid?”, but his riff on Faux News’ gay panic over Chaz and the “eh” response to Vesty Pants Suit’s nipple slip was funny.

i just watched it this morning and almost peed my pants…

And I can’t even make a joke about forced birth. I start seeing red and wanting to punch a Republican.

i’m more inclined to junkpunching…

why don’t they spend some of that money on actual, living out of the womb, breathing, suffering children?

That would be SOCIALISM! It’s much better to try to use shame and social ostracism to get what you want, instead of policies that might actually make it happen.

BEES!

There are Teabagger bees?

And I can’t even make a joke about forced birth. I start seeing red and wanting to punch a Republican.

i’m more inclined to junkpunching…

There you go again, making assumptions unsupported by any evidence…

I guess those women should have worn Tricorn hats and knee britches.

High there, everyone!

I’m one of S,N’s true and genuine DFHs. The whole panapoly: Bell-bottoms, long hair, tripping, stoned, fucking like a happy bunny in a pre-AIDS world, draft deferment, mad for rock, weird, funky, and freaky.

By the way, we NEVER spelled ‘hippie’ with a ‘y’ … and laughed at people who did, because they were so not tuned-in. It was a Reader’s Digest spelling in concern-troll articles wondering What Is Happening To Our Young People? Be hip, peeples: Spell it ‘hippie’.

I always got the Fucking Hippies part, becuase we fucked a lot. But where does Dirty come in? Takes frequent showering to care for long hair. ((Same thing now with a ridiculously long beard.)) Also helps to be clean if you want to fuck like a happy bunny.

Well, my Sweet Smoke break is almost over. I’ve got to get back to the Museum now.

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There are Teabagger bees?

Sure, they’re the ones who just hover ’round.

Yeah, the abortion “debate” is one of those things that always makes me twitch. And not just because the right is basically just using a catchy marketing slogan against whether or not we view women as full people rather than infantilized slaves who can be forced into bondage to even the slimy leavings of a man for daring to think she was a full person and entitled to what is natural to 99% of us.

No, it’s because there is no fucking debate.

It was never and never will be a political problem. Abortion is a medical procedure and as such, the only “debate” that ever mattered was the scientific medical ethics debate and that was settled so many years ago it’d make your head spin. A fetus isn’t a person, an abortion is a necessary medical procedure and one of the most performed medical procedures in the US (at 1 in 3 women having one during their life, the chances you know someone who has are pretty close to 1:1 and the chance that you really think they are inhuman murderer rather than “their choice was different” is close to 0). And even if it was a person, a fetus would be granted rights given to no born person. If we won’t take a pint of blood from a person on death row to save Baby Jesus, we certainly have no right demanding that a woman spend 9 months donating blood, bone, tissue, massive physiological stress, physical impairment for what is essentially until birth an idea, a hope for the future that often doesn’t come to fruition (most pregnancies end in miscarriage, usually without notice and usually at the same time that most abortions are performed so “God” is killing more “babies” than even the hardest working abortion doctor).

But yeah, the point being that the medical ethics debate has long since settled that it is only a child after birth, which makes sense seeing as it doesn’t even have things we associate with humanity such as sentience until actually a bit after birth.

But we have this fucking debate because the right is basically using this issue to test the waters on instituting a theocracy. They hope to trump the standard system of addressing an issue (nothing has ever stopped them creating scientific literature to try and argue for the personhood of the fetus based on biological principles and medical ethics and trying to reopen the debate) and impose by political will the religious argument (argument by religious authority, which is why you hear a lot of blather about metaphysics and how the soul just happens to get implanted after the only step the man was involved in, but they swear it isn’t about erasing 9 months of a woman’s involvement in a pregnancy).

Additionally, they’ve found that pretending to care about babies and also to care about genocide (I mean, seriously, right? The political movement that has been all about elimination of those different suddenly is expected to just be really up in arms about this and we’re to believe it isn’t because this allows them to basically moderate game Hitler and go, well Hitler was a conservative, but liberals support abortion and that killed even more people so liberals are worse than Hitler and its okay to kill them), allows them to directly attack the notion that a woman is a full human allowed to experience all that is open to a full human (the right to pursue what is natural for 99%, the right to make their own choices about their life, and all the ability to make long-term career and life plans that are made possible by the ability to plan and choose when they bring a pregnancy to term).

It sounds archaic today (though you still get people like the last wingnut who try) to say, women should be kicked out of the workforce and returned barefoot and pregnant to the kitchen where they belong. And it sounds horrible in many cases to state your disbelief in consent or your belief that a man should control a woman’s body at all times.

But saying you love babies and want to save them from murderers sounds almost noble.

Whether or not its true doesn’t matter and any conservative that was forced to be honest with themselves knows how untrue it is and a quick glance on the party breakdown on any issue involving actual born children shows just how painfully untrue it really is.

But it doesn’t matter, because it makes a nice slogan to use as cudgel. To argue for the reduction of a woman and all she does for 9 months into a form of amorphous cage for an already complete starbaby. To emotionally argue against the careful research of biologists around the globe who have long since determined that a fetus is not at all comparable to a full living child. To allow an in to override proper channels in order to institute religious delusions and in general punish women for thinking they can escape religious delusion affecting them just because they don’t subscribe to the beliefs of those sects or because they have real medical issues that need real medical intervention while the problem is small and fixable.

Sorry for the length and the seriousness, but this “debate” is one of those things that just offends me on every level. As a woman, as a biologist, as a secular humanist, as a believer in good faith debates, and as a human being.

Also, given the desire to use state power to enforce moral religious orthodoxy and control basic human behavior, the “pro-life” wankers are really never allowed to accuse their opponents of being fascists. But then, I guess when did projection ever stop a wingnut from accusing their enemies of doing what they are currently literally arguing for.

Boing Boing recalls the time when Republicans loved family planning and Planned Parenthood.

By the way, we NEVER spelled ‘hippie’ with a ‘y’ … and laughed at people who did, because they were so not tuned-in. It was a Reader’s Digest spelling in concern-troll articles wondering What Is Happening To Our Young People? Be hip, peeples: Spell it ‘hippie’.

Right on, Brother Fenwick!

I heart Jason Matera! Doesn’t anyone recall his brave stance of not enlisting to fight’em over there because he knew… He Knew!!! That fighting the dirty hippies over here was more important!

Matthews: “What kind of people should fight in this war, if not you?”
Mattera: “Those who want to.”

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