Sadly, Yes!

Roy, writing about wingnuts writing about Paul Krugman:

“A devastating knockout of the New York Times columnist Paul Krugman,” cried Peter Wehner of Commentary. Wehner’s colleague John Steele Gordon added that Krugman was “intellectually lazy” and “intellectually dishonest,” and even called him “the Joe McCarthy of our times,” echoing William Kristol — which probably confused both Commentary‘s and Kristol’s readers, as most of them probably think McCarthy was a great American hero.


Above: Kristol fils.

They do but they can’t say it. Their elders however could say it, albeit in a weaselly way. Here’s William’s dad, Irving, the late high priest of Kristol Methodism:

“There is one thing that the American people know about Senator McCarthy. He, like them, is unequivocally anti-Communist. About the spokesmen for American liberalism, they feel they know no such thing.”


Above: Kristol pere.

 

Comments: 584

 
 
 

UN-possible!! When wingnut memes crash, eh?

 
 

PS – Greetings and salutations back at everyone who said nice things in the previous two threads.

 
Superintendent Lemony
 

UN-possible!! When wingnut memes crash, eh?

This could be the irresistible force meeting the immovable object. Maybe there is a new non-Newtonian physics to be discovered. Which is nice, because I feel restricted by all this Einsteinian ‘nothing can go faster than light’ business. I don’t think unelected physicists (especially international banker physicists – nudge nudge wink wink) should have the right to put limits on my right to go as fast as I want.

 
 

Hinderaker, as quoted by Edroso:

Bachmann is infinitely better informed than Krugman

An interesting statement, and every bit as reasonable as “Compared to Lou Costello, Wernher von Braun didn’t know shit about rocket science.” or “Mister Rogers can’t even begin to compare to Josef Stalin when it comes to basic human decency

I’m used to wingnuts hyperventilating, but the Tucson shooting seems to have pushed them to a whole new level of malignant hysteria.

 
Superintendent Lemony
 

Bachmann is infinitely better informed than Krugman as _______ is ______ to ______.

That’s a devilish IQ test question.

 
 

History’s dustbin, Irv, & in you go!

 
 

Snidely, prev. thread, don’t worry about the biographical stuff, it’s appreciated! Just a late night, nobody was around.

 
 

Greetings and salutations back at everyone who said nice things in the previous two threads.

I missed the last couple, but yes, what everyone else said.

You perhaps know this, HTML, but Glennzilla still can’t get enough of your best stuff. See update II, harkening back to a classic of yore.

 
 

Wake up and squeeze the grapefruit America!

Tea Party Given Miss America 2011 Crown on King Day:

“…when it comes to the security of our nation, we have to focus on security first and then people’s right to know…”
–Teresa Sanlan, Miss America 2011

No, no, she’s _from_ Gering, Nebraska; she’s not a Nazi zombie.

 
 

Above: Kristol pere.

If this is a reference to Beckett & “End Game” then I’m not sure that I approve.

 
 

Beautiful action shot of the K son using his head. It’s so rare that extremity does anything other than hold up his hair.

 
 

In my experience, Economics Professors tend to bore their victims into comas. Unless they’re Heritage Foundation types, who try to bullshit you to death.

 
 

What does that pointy headed Krugman know anyway? Nobel Prize? Feh, big deal. With that and $1 you can buy … um, one million and one cups of coffee.

Still, I’m sure the prize committee is rigged in favour of liberals. I mean, they gave a Nobel Prize to Milton Friedman for…

Oh screw this, I’ll come in again.

 
 

I didn’t really mean to come in again, but I forgot my main point, which is that it’s great to see HTML again!

 
 

Because I am late to every party on the intratubes (and terrifically uncool), I only discovered Roy very recently. I think I’m in love.

 
 

terrifically uncool

So you think you’re hot, eh?

 
 

Alas, not hot enough for Ron. *sniff, tear* I don’t think I have the right…parts.

 
 

That’s what I love about wingnuts. They say they believe in democracy but just how long would that belief last if the majority elected a communist government? Fucking hypocrites!

 
 

Yes, I do love how Paul Krugman’s suddenly become the face of the enemy over at PJM and elsewhere. I suppose it had to happen sometimes; as one of the few prominent voices telling it like it is no matter how unpopular that may be (the guy must’ve had some lonely times during the early Bush years), they can’t ignore him forever.

 
 

That’s what I love about wingnuts. They say they believe in democracy but just how long would that belief last if the majority elected a communist government? Fucking hypocrites!

Oh, it doesn’t have to be a communist government; any left-of-their-position government is illegitimate. Ask the third world how many potential New Deals were squashed in the name of “fighting communism.”

 
 

C’mon. Is “Bachmann is better-informed than Krugman” line from the wingnut-0-sphere any worse than offfering Douglas (there is no housing bubble, OK there is but there is no recession, OK there is but it will not be a long one, OK there is but there no need for stimulus, etc) Holtz-Eakin as a credible economist? Of course Commentary TNG love him, he’s the Wolfowitz of economic policy. DHE has been all over the teevee lately, with the usual con-line of non-existenet inflation threats, decrying the deficits he helped create, and how all this is because Fannie-Freddie made the banks give mortgages to Negroes.

 
 

“There is one thing that the American people know about Senator McCarthy. He, like them, is unequivocally anti-Communist. About the spokesmen for American liberalism, they feel they know no such thing.”

First of all, the average American may be unequivocally anti-Communist, but I doubt if he has much of a clue what it is he’s opposing. Second, the section of the American people which believes liberals aren’t anti-Communist tends to be the same one that believes in FEMA death camps and cutting the deficit by cutting taxes, so you’ll excuse me if I don’t take them too seriously. As a certain Pope once said, the truth isn’t determined by a majority vote.

But if you want to tally up points, try this;

It was a liberal, Woodrow Wilson, who deployed American forces to Russia to support the White Russian Army in its fight against the Bolsheviks. And it was the Republican Congress who demanded that they stop, as part of a broader whining about war expenditures that had just saved Europe from becoming the Kaiser’s back yard.

It was a liberal, Harry Truman, who oversaw the containment doctrine, NATO and the Marshall Plan, and it was that same liberal who oversaw the first clashes with the communist world in Berlin and Korea. (At the time, the GOP was still divided into isolationist and anti-communist wings; “hmm, do we hate Reds more than we love the tax money it’ll take to pay for all this?”)

It was a liberal, John F. Kennedy, who faced off against the Soviet Union during the most dangerous crisis of the Cold War and made them back off. (The only thing conservatives had to say was to bitch that he should have gone ahead and started a nuclear war).

It was a liberal, Lyndon Johnson, who presided over the escalation of the Vietnam War during the same time Ronald Reagan was making his debut calling him a commie appeaser. (You can draw a lot of conclusions from the Vietnam War, but that Johnson had sympathy for communism wasn’t one of them).

And it was a liberal, James Carter, who dialed the Cold War back in after the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, after he’d already started running weapons to the Afghan resistance against the Moscow-backed regime.

The Democrats’ record in the fight against communism is long and distinguished. Definitely more so than that of the Republicans who, when they were in power, usually dialed up the Cold War rhetoric all the way and then used it to overthrow democracies in downtrodden third-world countries.

And I’ll flip that pithy sentence around; speaking for myself, there’s onething that I know about the liberals McCarthy and Irving Kristol hold in such contempt; they, like me, are unequivocally anti-fascist. About the spokesmen for American conservatism, I know no such thing.

 
 

Ay-yi-yi-yi YI!

Zee projection!

Zee narcissism!

Zee wholesale mental illness!

Zee googles, zey do not verk!

Mein eyes!

 
 

On a more serious note, I worry a bit for Paul Krugman’s safety.

Maybe more than a bit.

 
 

I worry a bit for Paul Krugman’s safety.

Hopefully he has better goggles.

 
 

Tea Party Given Miss America 2011 Crown on King Day

As long as she keeps her grubby mitts off the Late Crown.

 
 

UN-possible!! When wingnut memes crash, eh?

What’s wrong, libs? Can’t keep two diametrically opposed ideas in your head at the same time, and believe in both of them with all your heart? That’s why we call you intellectually lazy, losers! You degenerate your brains with all the drugs and immorality!

 
 

Off topic, but it is pretty cool that The Donalde has posted the picture of Don Surber fucking his truck, because we are mean, or demons, or something. Either way, now his five non-ironic readers get to see the picture as well.

 
 

Shorter Nerdlinger:

Let’s celebrate MLK Day by having a sad about the time he dissed Barry Goldwater – and Ayn Rand if you think about it.

Shorter comments so far:

Fucking commie.

 
 

When some deranged lunatic actually fucks his truck we on the left will have only ourselves to blame for creating a toxic environment of truck fuckery.

 
 

malignant hysteria.

is that Malignant Bouffant’s sister?

 
 

“Mister Rogers can’t even begin to compare to Josef Stalin when it comes to basic human decency”

They both liked to wear cardigans and sneakers?

 
 

Well, I’m sure glad we have the Donalde around to model civil behavior.

 
 

When some deranged lunatic actually fucks his truck we on the left will have only ourselves to blame for creating a toxic environment of truck fuckery.

Right on, daddy-o. There are only two types of bad things in this world: the bad things that we lieberals do and the bad things that we cause other people to do.

 
 

Nice to see that the right actually has standards for reason and intellectual honesty. Batshit crazy standards with no basis in reality, but standards nonetheless.

 
 

The fact is, I like my truck. I really, really like my truck, if you know what I mean. But I never would have felt open expressing my love for my truck without knowing that fine, upstanding men like Don Surber liked their trucks as well.

I understand Doctor Douglass has a Ram Charger, with a hemi and the towing package.

 
 

you should not be so veiled in your references, Gary.

 
 

Doctor Douglass has a Ram* Charger**, with a hemi*** and the towing package****.

*VPR

**VPR

***V one-balled R

****Ouch

 
 

Bachmann is infinitely better informed than Krugman

Bachman, Surber, all these right-wingers know more about economics than a Nobel prize-winning economy professor. And they’re always so civil!

 
 

I’m sorry, people, but it’s what a large percentage of Southerners and more than few Americans, too, prefer to call ‘Marchin’ Lucifer Coon’ day; therefore I am not going to participate in peeling the onion of right-wing hypocrisy to prepare it for the goulash of cognitive dissonance which is the legacy of there not being a whole shitload more people like him around.

Instead, I’m going to make sweet, sweet love to my neighbor’s Toyota Prius, because I’m a liberal.

 
 

“Mister Rogers can’t even begin to compare to Josef Stalin when it comes to basic human decency”
They both liked to wear cardigans and sneakers?

Stalin always sang a soothing rendition of “Won’t You Be My Neighbor?” at the opening of every Politburo meeting.

 
 

Golf clap to Chris at 15:59, by the way. I’ll make a pitcher of juleps.

 
moderately good looking not so hunchback
 

Dr. King would have hated Krugman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111

 
Even more Patriotic Douchebag
 

Instead, I’m going to make sweet, sweet love to my neighbor’s Toyota Prius, because I’m a liberal.

Libs, always running from the Cummins Diesel Turbo.

 
 

I’m going to make sweet, sweet love to my neighbor’s Toyota Prius, because I’m a liberal.

Adulterer!

I only diddle my own Prius.

 
 

I adulterated my neighbor’s Prius by mixing it with a Yugo.

 
 

Prius + Yugo = Prugo? Yius? Yu-gi-oh?

 
 

Prius + Yugo = You prig us.

 
 

While we sit here trying to make up Prius jokes, Paul Krugman is left defenseless, his brilliant enemies closing in all around him, suddenly revealed for the fraud he is — having pulled the wool over the Nobel committee’s eyes, perhaps, but how many REAL MERKINS are on that committee?

Wolverines &c.

 
 

I meant Krugman suddenly revealed, not his brilliant enemies. Fuckin’ sentence structure, how does it work?

 
 

Comparisons of Fred Rogers and Stalin piss me off even when made in jest. Mr. Rogers was a vegetarian so he was much more like Hitler.

 
 

Martin Luther King and a horse walk into a bar. Bartender says, “we don’t serve your kind here.” Horse says, “It’s okay, he’s only here to buy cigarettes.”

Paul Krugman, Martin Luther King, and a horse walk into a bar. Bartender says, “we don’t serve your kind here.” Don Surber says, “It’s okay, they’re getting their trucks serviced next door. Not like me… I service my own.”

What?

 
 

Fuckin’ sentence structure, how does it work?

Michelle Bachmann knows. Her knowledge is infinite.

 
 

Fred Rogers, Stalin, Paul Krugman, Martin Luther King, Jr., a horse, and Adolph Hitler walk into a bar. GODWIN’S LAW!!!

 
 

Prius? What the hell does the new RNC chair have to do with truck fucking or did I miss something?

 
 

It’s weird to think that the wingers have now elected one of their own to go around knowing of things. Bachman is now like the brain insect in Starship Troopers. The rest do the scuttling and swarming, she does the thinking. And because of the particular crowd involved, they need somebody who is as ignorant as a frozen lemon to be their thinker, because otherwise they-all won’t know what the thinker is a-thinkin’ on.
Is it possible to build an echo chamber so small it can be strapped to the average American head?

 
 

Dammit… I only go by Satan on Thursdays 🙁 FYWP!

 
 

Is it possible to build an echo chamber so small it can be strapped to the average American head?

The average winger comes pre-equipped with one.

 
 

Her knowledge is infinite.

Hmmm. (Things that are knowable) / (What Bachmann understands) is infinite when (What Bachmann understands) is zero. Sounds about right.

 
 

Fred Rogers, Stalin, Paul Krugman, Martin Luther King, Jr., a horse, and Adolph Hitler walk into a bar.

Hitler says to the horse “Why the long face?”
The horse says “Paul called us divisive. Why is he so shrill?”

[Its funny because its true]

 
 

Let’s celebrate MLK Day by having a sad about the time he dissed Barry Goldwater – and Ayn Rand if you think about it.

Shorter comments so far:

Fucking commie.

Wait, how do they square this with the “MLK was really a conservative” meme? Oh hold on, never mind…my bad. I keep expecting them to be intellectually consistent, which fucks me up no end.

Also, ZRM at 17:07: thank you. I always wondered if my keyboard was coffee proof.

Finally, did you hear that Rience Priebus or Pience Fience or whatever-the-hell his name is fucks trucks? It’s true, I saw it on the Internet!

 
 

Within minutes of hearing about Tucson I was wondering how conservatives might respond. That’s the twisted sort of person I’ve become, thanks in part to this this blog. But I never dreamed that their answer would be:

1) Vitriolic hate speech does not lead to violence, and anyway we have the right of free speech.

2) Condemning vitriolic hate speech absolutely does drive people to violence, and the maniacs who want to civilize the discourse should all be lynched in self-defense.

 
 

Aren’t Tintin’s photoshops copyrighted? Couldn’t he sue the Donalde?

 
 

Stop Holocausting me!

 
 

OK, not really related, but I think it’s so biting and funny I want to make sure everyone has a chance to see it, iffin’ you’re so inclined:

why I want to take bill Maher out behind the middle school and get him pregnant

 
 

Wait, how do they square this with the “MLK was really a conservative” meme? Oh hold on, never mind…my bad. I keep expecting them to be intellectually consistent, which fucks me up no end.

The closest thing to an intellectually consistent meme I’ve read on the subject is that MLK was well-meaning, but wrong, and if he’d lived long enough to see how horrible affirmative action and liberal policies have been to the black communities, he’d totes be a free-market libertarian.

I’ve heard similar things about FDR, for that matter.

 
 

Welcome back HTML! You’ve been sorely…….um.

I geuss they ran out of BS when a man who really can back up his words has called them out and told them to STFU.

(yeah, yeah, I do live in Mordor)

 
 

WTF:

Bachmann is infinitely better informed than Krugman

WTF.

This is so far out there I feel like I am falling into some kind of Lovecraftian gulf of madness and insanity where the pipes trill mindlessly and half-seen monstrosities shamble in the darkness.

 
 

Because this is the Information Superhighway, Obligatory Car Humping Link.

 
 

Chris:
Yeah, ha. That’s basically an “Oh! The unintended consequences!” schtick, from folks who despised the actual, intended consequences in the first place.

What I’ve taken a week to get through my logical skull:
Essentially, what the rageified Teahad and noise machine are saying is, This guy was just a nut, and all the violent & assassin-y language we’ve been using didn’t cause it, so the prudent thing to do is for us to keep doing it until you can PROVE it has done it.

Except, well, it already has (Universalist Church.)

And in many ways, it’s similar to their corporate masters’ attitudes towards product safety, carcinogens, pollution, etc etc: Until you can PROVE, I mean, really , really, really PROVE that, how about we just keep doing what we want for another generation or three?

 
 

Happy HTMLK Mencken Day! The K is for “Kristol is a mendacious prick”.

 
 

I feel like I am falling into some kind of Lovecraftian gulf of madness and insanity where the pipes trill mindlessly and half-seen monstrosities shamble in the darkness.

Such is America in the Year of Our Lord 2011.

 
 

I feel like I am falling into some kind of Lovecraftian gulf of madness and insanity where the pipes trill mindlessly and half-seen monstrosities shamble in the darkness.

I can totally see Jonah Goldberg as Azathoth.

 
 

Ya know, I’ve seen wingnuts claim, with a straight face, that Sarah Bloodlibeled Palin is more qualified to be prez than Obama, so that Bachman comment doesn’t even make me blink.

 
 

…if (MLK had) lived long enough to see how horrible affirmative action and liberal policies have been to the black communities, he’d totes be a free-market libertarian.

If Che Guevara had lived long enough he would have opened up a car dealership and become a Shriner.

 
 

I geuss they ran out of BS when a man who really can back up his words has called them out and told them to STFU.

Did Dupnik focus his ire on right-wing sources alone? Because what I heard was a very general statement about vitriolic public discourse, and that’s what I’ve heard from the media, too, along with lots of pious “both sides do it, ooh aren’t we so evenhanded!” talk. Which makes one wonder, why do folks on the right assume a universal condemnation refers to them alone? Narcissism? Guilt? Assholery?

 
 

Isolated incident, lone gunman, not responsible.

One lone gunman, Gavrilo Princip, assasinated Archduke Franz Ferdinand in 1914. That isolated incident, lone gunman, etc. just might have had consequences, but who could have known?

 
 

Why do I find this comment at ASW so tragically brilliant?

“The comment about leading America down a Fascist path is interesting (especially the capitalization). One is left to wonder if this was Dr. King’s own analysis, or if he was relying upon misinformation from others, such as Daniel Schorr, who promulgated the falsehood that Senator Goldwater vacationed in Germany to “link up” with neo-Nazis (quoted from page 233 of Liberal Fascism).”

 
 

I can totally see Jonah Goldberg as Azathoth.

I see him as more a blobby Brown Jenkin.

 
 

“quoted from page 233 of Liberal Fascism).””

Mistake one.

 
 

If Hitler had lived long enough, he would own a kosher deli in Poughkeepsie.

 
 

I am thoroughly disgusted by the way even today MLK and the civil rights movement don’t get the respect they deserve. The guy on the radio said it’s the MLK _junior holiday_ today. Srsly, I didn’t even know there was such a thing.

 
 

If Hitler had lived long enough he would have totally vacationed with Jonah Goldberg in Germany.

 
 

Today is also the day to celebrate the birth of Robert E. Lee, at least here in Mississippi.

 
 

If Hitler had lived long enough he would have totally vacationed with Jonah Goldberg Don Surber’s pickup in Germany.

Fixed.

 
 

The Democrats’ record in the fight against communism is long and distinguished.

For definitions of distinguished that include “amoral” and “bloodthirsty.”

 
 

Which makes one wonder, why do folks on the right assume a universal condemnation refers to them alone?

Because they are guilty of fomenting violence and bigotry and they know it. They don’t care so much about that, more so about being exposed to how morally, intellectually, and ethically bankrupt they are.
They know in their heart of hearts they are infomercials for monied agendas. They are manipulators who stir up others, but don’t have the courage to admit they are culpable.

Plus they think there’s always room on the cross.

 
 

Thank you, Chris, for 15.41, 15.43 and 15.57.
Nice – surprising but nice – to find a sense of history in Sadly No’s commentariat. Much appreciated.

 
 

Today is also the day to celebrate the birth of Robert E. Lee, at least here in Mississippi.

If Robert E. Lee had lived long enough, he’d totally be driving a replica General Lee.

 
 

If Hitler had lived long enough, he would own a kosher deli in Poughkeepsie.

One of Hitler’s relatives claimed that prior to World War I he was considering moving to America. Most historians think the story is bogus, but imagine growing up with old man Hitler living down the block.

 
 

If Righteous Bubba had lived long enough, we’d be hearing about how his latest pet met their tenderly ubiquitous end.

 
 

If you’re bloodthirsty try ZRM’s drive-thru.

 
 

If Jesus had lived long enough, we’d all be damned to an eternity of hellfire and brimstone because Adam took a bite of Eve’s forbidden fruit.

 
 

One lone gunman, Gavrilo Princip, assasinated Archduke Franz Ferdinand in 1914.

Weren’t a bunch of his anarchist Serbian buddies stationed along the parade route awaitin’ their chance? Like a dozen of the crazies? Sure he was the only one that fired when it mattered so, lone gunman I suppose.

 
 

I am falling into some kind of Lovecraftian gulf of madness and insanity where the pipes trill mindlessly and half-seen monstrosities shamble in the darkness.

Interest. Is there a website, newsletter, or small horror-niche magazine named ironically after a fictional town in Lovecraft’s canon where I might find more information?

 
 

imagine growing up with old man Hitler living down the block.

“Kinder, raus aus meinem Rasen!” (Shakes fist)

 
 

If Righteous Bubba had lived long enough, he’d be going into a bar with Krugman, Stalin, Hitler, a horse, Martin Luther King, Jr., Don Surber, the pope, Gavrilo Princip, Franz Ferdinand, a rabbi, and Michelle Bachmann.

 
 

Brazenly showing what an anti-Amurrickin reality-supremacist “Joe McCarthy of our times” he is, Krugman’s point about the link between all the kill-kill-kill boilerplate & (SHOCKING!) lethal IRL obedience to it by macho schmeebs fixated on obedience was so robust that it had already been proven dead-on by real events again & again before he even made it … & that’s just not warm familiar comforting ego-trippy pigshit we can believe in, my friends!

Michelle Bachmann knows. Her knowledge appetite for nomming millions in government subsidies from Uncle Sam’s man-teat is infinite.

fixt! kthxbye.

 
 

If Righteous Bubba had lived long enough, he’d be going into a bar with Krugman, Stalin, Hitler, a horse, Martin Luther King, Jr., Don Surber, the pope, Gavrilo Princip, Franz Ferdinand, a rabbi, and Michelle Bachmann.
You’ve turned it into a shaggy dog joke.

 
 

Bachmann is infinitely better informed than Krugman

This is true when you accept the wingnut definition of ‘informed’, which means something like ‘says stuff that accords closely to our tribal dogma.’ Remember that Rush Limbaugh listeners consider themselves the most ‘informed’ of any politically engaged group.

It’s similar to how whichever Democratic senator is most prominent at any given time – e.g., acting as a presidential candidate – is the most liberal senator in history, because ‘liberal’ is purely a tribe marker and not anything to do with any policy ideas, because wingnuts don’t understand the concept of policy ideas.

 
 

,,,where I might find more information?

Substance McGoatse linked an interesting bio yesterday.

 
 

And by interesting, I mean interesting to all you book nerds. I thought it could have used more nudity and coarse language.

 
 

“There is one thing that the American people know about Senator McCarthy. He, like them, is unequivocally anti-Communist.”

And there is one thing that sentence teaches people about Irving Kristol: He, like McCarthy’s followers, was unequivocally a fool.

Richard Rovere had this to say about McCarthy in his definitive biography:

I know of nothing to suggest that he ever for a moment really thought the government was riddled with Communists; had he really believed this, had he really cared, he would not have abandoned investigations merely from ennui or because of their failure to produce the headlines he had expected. He was a political speculation, a prospector who drilled Communism and saw it come up a gusher. He liked his gusher, but he would have liked any other just as well.

 
 

Like a dozen of the crazies? Sure he was the only one that fired when it mattered so, lone gunman I suppose.

Yeah, Ferdinand shouldn’t have been in Sarajevo, but again I think “who could have forseen” is a dangerous excuse.-

Things moved quickly thereafter. Austria-Hungary, unsatisfied with Serbia’s response to her ultimatum declared war on Serbia on 28 July 1914. Russia, bound by treaty to Serbia, mobilized its vast army. Germany, allied to Austria-Hungary by treaty, viewed the Russian mobilization as an act of war against Austria-Hungary, and declared war on Russia on 1 August. France, bound by treaty to Russia, responded by announcing war against Germany and Austria-Hungary on 3 August. Germany promptly responded on 4 August by invading neutral Belgium to open a quick path to Paris. Britain, allied to Belgium declared war against Germany on 4 August. In just a little over a month all of Europe was at war.

 
 

“I’ll take Coarse Nudity for $200 Alex.”

 
 

” I thought it could have used more nudity and coarse language.”

And if I remember correctly there’s not one mention of anyone’s mother getting fucked. Lame.

 
 

You’ve turned it into a shaggy dog joke.

Don’t blame me. The toxic environment the liberals have created left me no choice.

 
 

Bachmann is infinitely better informed than Krugman

The Billy Mays of the right.

 
 

“I’ll take Coarse Nudity for $200 Alex.”

Doesn’t coarse nudity lead to uncomfortable chaffing?

 
 

If Righteous Bubba had lived long enough, he’d be going into a bar with Krugman, Stalin, Hitler, a horse, Martin Luther King, Jr., Don Surber, the pope, Gavrilo Princip, Franz Ferdinand, a rabbi, and Michelle Bachmann.

You’ve turned it into a shaggy dog joke.

I was thinking more along the lines of The Aristocrats.

 
 

In just a little over a month all of Europe was at war.

That war came very close to beginning in 1912.

“Gunboat diplomacy” predictably brought Germans & English into their own version of a Cuban Missile Crisis.

A gruesome & schizophrenic war it was: the Schlieffen Plan very nearly brought predictions of a 2-4 month contest true, but petty territorial-pissing headgames in the German High Command fatally compromised it & a long hideous attrition on a long fixed front replaced it. A German Navy that should have matched the BRN was crushed at Jutland. Despite his major wins against the Russians, pulling bloopers like loyally retaining a mediocre commander throughout the human meatgrinder of Verdun made sure the Kaiser wound up with a big hot cup of FAIL.

Not even long-range artillery or air superiority can compensate for stupidity.

 
 

Michele Bachmann knows. Her capacity for channelling Bull Connor is infinite.

{ fixt 2.0 }

 
 

That war came very close to beginning in 1912.

And in 1905 to 1906, and in 1908 to 1909, and in 1911, and to some extent in late 1913 to early 1914. There were several dress rehearsals to that giant clusterfuck.

Not even long-range artillery or air superiority can compensate for stupidity.

But they can sure amplify it.

 
 

Coarse Nudity Category

Doin’ it in the sand

Making out with sand paper

That time you saw grandma get out of the shower

Victoria’s Secret introduces it’s new line entirely made of burlap

Rosacea: The Erotic Musical!

 
 

can compensate for stupidity.

With the maneuvering and infighting for the Armistice, who could have forseen the consequences?

 
 

Coarse Nudity Category

Brazilian with sea salt scrub?

 
 

Interest. Is there a website, newsletter, or small horror-niche magazine named ironically after a fictional town in Lovecraft’s canon where I might find more information?

Just think: Rise Again X The Long Emergency X Nyarlathotep.

 
 

Not even long-range artillery or air superiority can compensate for stupidity

I don’t get it.

 
 

re: Coarse Nudity

You kids these days don’t know how good you got it. Even the most amateur of camwhores uploads in VGA quality. Back in the day, our pr0n was ASCII art. Now get off mah lawn – don’t you have some HD torrents to seed!

 
 

Mark Levin was holding extra clips to hand Loughner, all part of the plan Levin masterminded.

 
 

For definitions of distinguished that include “amoral” and “bloodthirsty.”

You got a better one?

 
 

“And in 1905 to 1906, and in 1908 to 1909, ”

The Guns of August. MUST read. I did recently.

 
 

Bill Maher is a reason for hope that someone is trying to make a difference.

 
 

That guy doesn’t mince words. He regularly calls out Moron America. Which is why he’s now carrying my child.

 
 

You do remember me don’t you? This time four years ago I was the bestest prezident since Winston Churchill.

 
 

You do remember me don’t you? This time four years ago I was the bestest prezident since Winston Churchill.

Sadly, as they say, No!

 
 

In just a little over a month all of Europe was at war.

And what makes me really curious is whether it (the world’s great powers all going to war) can happen again. Did nuclear weapons really make that class of war obsolete, and are we just going to see the major powers resolve their differences via endless proxy wars in the future, or are people actually going to lose their heads and go to outright war again?

 
 

Imaginary President Palin was the best president ever.

 
 

I call fake Donalde. No typos.

 
 

endless proxy wars in the future, or are people actually going to lose their heads and go to outright war again?

I think the first one. I believe the global economy is so entertwined that total war is viewed as bad for business.

 
 

Coarse Nudity Category

Hair shorts.

 
 

George W Bush said,

January 17, 2011 at 20:25 (kill)

You do remember me don’t you? This time four years ago I was the bestest prezident since Winston Churchill Vladimir Putin.

Fuqqst, just like we are.

 
 

Chris said,

are people actually going to lose their heads and go to outright war again?

Open Cahoots said,

Imaginary President Palin was the best president ever.

Put these statements together and the answer is yes.

 
 

Finally, did you hear that Rience Priebus or Pience Fience…

Peeance Freeance.

You’re welcome.

 
 

I will entertain that I can’t spell intertwined. I blame liberals.

 
 

I call fake Donalde. No typos.

No, Donalde can spell. Well, except for “unmatched.” And “Charli.” But usually, he can spell. The reason it looks fake is the lack of profanity and pseudo-in-tha-hood-speak. But lately he has been substituting hood-speak for a pseudo-military over-reliance on acronyms. Overall, I call real Donalde.

 
 

I think the first one. I believe the global economy is so entertwined that total war is viewed as bad for business.

Also what people thought a hundred years ago, though (the Victorian Age was the Washington Consensus of its day). But the nationalist buildup produced WW1 anyway; it wasn’t logical, but it happened.

Given the trend towards nationalism all over the world right now, seems like a reasonable thing to wonder about.

 
 

And what makes me really curious is whether it (the world’s great powers all going to war) can happen again.

Sure. Easily. Especially if you have a series of crises to ramp up international tension. Even more especially if you have nitwits and neurotics in positions of authority.

It looks like we’re moving into an era where there will be several major powers, without one being absolutely dominant. That’s a political landscape not unlike the one that existed a century ago.

I believe the global economy is so entertwined that total war is viewed as bad for business.

Norman Angell published The Great Illusion in 1910, making that very point.

 
 

Peeance Freeance.

You’re welcome.

Correct spelling is Fascist.

 
 

It looks like we’re moving into an era where there will be several major powers, without one being absolutely dominant. That’s a political landscape not unlike the one that existed a century ago.

Still not sure. While I agree America is losing it’s dominance and it’s leveling out more, I think the political atmosphere a century ago is vastly different. The early 20th century saw the last gasp of the major Imperialist, Royalist, Monarchial powers of the 19th century. They saw WWI as another European chess match for land/power and it ended up in the long run consuming them.
Then again you may be right with the widening gulf between haves and have nots, history may repeat itself.

 
 

Hey, WordPress, how about you stop “detecting” my “duplicate comment” AND ACTUALLY POST THE FUCKING THING.

 
 

Correct spelling is Fascist.

Don’t you mean “Facist”?

 
 

Fashist

 
 

“Hey, WordPress, how about you stop “detecting” my “duplicate comment” AND ACTUALLY POST THE FUCKING THING.”

I don’t call WP a cruel bitch mother for nothing. I HATE IT when it does that.

 
 

Rinse Priapus?
Whence PENIS?
Rents Pry Butts?

 
 

Bachmann is infinitely better informed than Krugman

For instance:
Bachmann knows that Obama spent a kajillion taxpayer dollars on a trip to India but Krugman does not.
Bachmann knows that crbon dioxide has never been shown to be a harmful gas but Krugman doesn’t
Bachmann knows that we’re running out of rich people in this country but Krugman doesn’t
Bachmann knows that the number one issue facing the country right now is gay marriage and education and how we handle radical Islam but Krugman doesn’t.

I could go on, but seems that there is just no end to what Bachmann “knows” that Krugman does not.

 
 

Good King WhencePenis looked out, on the Feast of Stephen,

I love it when kiddies sing it on my doorstep.

 
 

I don’t call WP a cruel bitch mother for nothing. I HATE IT when it does that.

What really pissed me off is, it ate a long transcription of a passage from Richard Rovere showing how full of shit Kristol was about McCarthy.

Of course, as Dogbert would say, that was a bit like sand-blasting a soup cracker.

 
 

Wince Pluribus

 
 

One lone gunman, Gavrilo Princip, assasinated Archduke Franz Ferdinand in 1914.

Of course, the real victim here was Sarah Palin.

 
 

One lone gunman, Gavrilo Princip, assasinated Archduke Franz Ferdinand in 1914.

No one ever checked the Sarajevo Book Depository for shell casings.

 
 

Comparisons of Fred Rogers and Stalin piss me off even when made in jest. Mr. Rogers was a vegetarian so he was much more like Hitler.
But Ginger Rodgers, now there’s an evil dictator

 
 

Bitter S., I don’t trust WP with long posts. I always write them down somewhere else so WP can’t fuck me. Of course, there’s no guarantee it won’t do that duplicate post shit…

 
 

Bachmann knows that dinosaurs were on Noah’s Ark, which totally happened.
Bachmann knows that Jesus is gonna be back any day now, all pissed off about aborted babies.
Bachmann knows that tax cuts always pay for themselves.
Bachmann knows that neither she nor Glenn Beck are bugfuck insane.

 
 

Ginger Rogers was just like Hitler but she killed millions backwards and in high heels.

 
 

I don’t trust WP with long posts.

I actually* wrote one more Favre poem, a thousand line behemoth in the style of the Poetic Edda (who doesn’t love heroic lays?) but WP eated it.

*not actually

 
 

Don’t forget Roy and Dale. Worse than 2 zombie Hitlers.

 
 

Oops, Dale Evans. I blame WP.

 
 

“I actually* wrote one more Favre poem, a thousand line behemoth in the style of the Poetic Edda (who doesn’t love heroic lays?) but WP eated it.”

You are a my afternoon N_B, in that i have to look up something in every third post you write. Thank your invisible unicorn for Google.

Did the poem mention me? The best poems are about me.

And of course I always enjoy heroic lays.

 
 

But Ginger Rodgers, now there’s an evil dictator

I was going to point out how much harder it is to evilly dictate backwards but VACCUUMSLAYER GRRRR.

 
 

Did the poem mention me? The best poems are about me.

Are limericks considered poems?

 
 

“Are limericks considered poems?”

They are if DKW writes them…about me.

 
 

Overall, I call real Malaclypse evil.

It’s a holiday, mate. You should take a rest. A week of scapegoating “heated rhetoric” has gotten to you, fiend. Events have proved the depravity of the left once again, big time. And you’re right in the ‘heat’ of things. Congratulations.

 
 

I think the political atmosphere a century ago is vastly different.

Absolutely.

Don’t get me wrong. I’m definitely not saying we’re bound by fate to reenact what happened to those poor bastards a century ago, except with the added ingredient of nukes. By 1914, international tensions were far, far worse than they are today or than they’re likely to be for the foreseeable future. What I am saying is that we’re not immune to the sort of process that pushed them into war.

 
 

Thread Bear may have jacked the thread.

Bethany
passionate witty compassionate goofy
Sibling of Jimi
Lover of Brownies
Who fears Cockroaches
Who needs vibrator
Who gives Blowjobs
Who would like to see The American southwest
Resident of Arkansas
Slayer

lulz

 
 

Kristol said those who are blaming Palin, such as Paul Krugman of The New York Times, are practicing “McCarthyism.”

The attempt to exploit this tragedy is distasteful,” Kristol said.

++++A WOULD ROTFLMAO AGAIN

 
 

the depravity of the left

Ohhh, yeaaaahhhh.

 
 

There once was a slayer of vacuums
I won’t say what she did with big brooms
She said she liked poems
And mangoes (they’re pomes?)
It’s under her blouse the fruit looms

 
 

the depravity of the left

I thought it could have used more nudity and coarse language.

 
 

Congratulations.

Thank you, Donalde. Smootchies to you as well.

And now that I think about it, Donalde is every bit as good a candidate for Azathoth as Jonah. Better, even, given his weird obsessions with demons and fiends. I mean, when you think of blind idiots gibbering at the center of the universe, who else do you think of?

 
 

A week of scapegoating “heated rhetoric”

Yes indeed! We should not be blaming the right for their inflamatory commentary, we should be blaming them for slashing funding to help the mentally challenged idividuals of this country and for caving in completely to the NRA.

 
 

Death to smootchies!

 
 

I know that week of scapegoating Mickey Kaus heated rhetoric has taken its dreadful toll on me. Good thing there’s juses.

 
 

Donalde, your new web site is way better than your olde one.

 
 

What I am saying is that we’re not immune to the sort of process that pushed them into war.

I agree. What’s most worrisome is that Chris’s point of proxy war is correct. The problem is a lot of these proxies, Israel, NK, Pakistan, etc. have nukes. A proxy war coulld be disastrous for the entire world, not just a specific region like the past.

 
 

Thread
Cuddly, fuzzy, well stuffed and beady eyed
Sibling of Pooh
Lover of dying threads
Who fears the reaper
Who needs this
Who gives a shit in the woods
Who would like to see more coarse nudity
Resident of Tierra del Oso
Bear

 
 

There once was a girl called VS
Whom pregnancy gave bigger breasts
She’d tease all the boys
Talking of her new toys
Hijacking threads with total success

 
 

Yours is betta, mr. Bear.

 
 

The left is a lynch mob targeting Beck and Palin.

 
 

They are if DKW writes them…about me.

PupMax got there first, but as you well know

VS, your wish is my command,
So here’s a limerick on demand.
Uh, something, something
and something, something.
That was easier than I had planned.

 
 

That was easier than I had planned.

Just like your mom.

 
 

For tonight: poached mahi-mahi on black eyed pea sauce with mango salsa and a pilau. Green salad with black olives and chevre. Meyer lemon sherbet.

 
 

the depravity of the left

I thought it could have used more nudity and coarse language

I want to know how I keep missing out.

 
 

“one more Favre poem”

veiled penis?

 
 

Let the record show I said Mr. Bear jacked the thread and I did NOT bring up my boobs.

 
 

Yours is betta, mr. Bear.

To misquote my cousin Fozzie:

Poetry swells in the heart of the American bear.

 
 

Stop Holocaustic me!

 
 

Imaginary President PalinReagan was the best president ever.

fxt.

 
 

I didn’t either.

 
 

Malaclypse, Donalde, Bigfoot and Hitler walk into a bar . . .

 
 

Let the record show I said Mr. Bear jacked the thread and I did NOT bring up my boobs

Just for the record, I would never have “jacked the thread” if I hadn’t been thinking about you bringing up your boobs.

 
 

VS, your wish is my command,
So here’s a limerick on demand.
Uh, something, something
and something, something.

Now that’s a work ofart.

 
 

I agree. What’s most worrisome is that Chris’s point of proxy war is correct. The problem is a lot of these proxies, Israel, NK, Pakistan, etc. have nukes. A proxy war coulld be disastrous for the entire world, not just a specific region like the past.

Well, that’s the other thing. The more nukes proliferate, the more opportunities there are for them to be used. And no one’s come up with a solution for that either, so far.

 
 

“Now that’s a work ofart.”

Nah, I think its missing something but I can’t quite put my finger on it.

 
 

A killer of suckage appliances
Who practices artistic sciences
The attention she craves
From the sick and depraved
Reminds me of my little lyin’ sis.

 
 

Let us not wander amongst the babe-swol’n milkers, oh my friends, but rather fix our eyes on God.

That said, there’s this talent agent, right? And in comes this family of hoofers. There’s Grandpa, Dad, Mom, Junior, Sis, Little Sis — anyway…

Let us all be aristocrats this day.

 
 

Malaclypse, Donalde, Bigfoot and Hitler walk into a bar . . .

I think I would rather drink alone, if that is my only option.

 
 

“From the sick and depraved”

I bet if DKW weren’t fucking your mother, this would really hurt his feelings.

 
 

There once was a limerick writer whose verse
Was much like owl droppings, but worse
The most execrable doggerel
It all came to buggerall
But who cares? VS will soon be a-nurse.

 
 

I can only hope he does my sister too. Double coupons for MLK day. Might be a tough slog even for DKW.

 
 

It’s been a long time since I was praved.

 
 

What size shoe does Bigfoot wear?

 
 

What size shoe does Bigfoot wear?

Be more specific. He wears two different sizes. He aint called Bigfeet dumbass!

 
 


But who cares? VS will soon be a-nurse.”

I assure you I have no plans to go into nursing.

Wait…

 
 

Recycling:

There once was a young man called Sven
Who’d been OCD since way back when
He’d count peas on his plate
And make wall-hangings straight
And this kind of thing would drive him nuts.

 
 

When Hitler walked into a bar
and spotted Wangchuck from afar
he said “how’s your mum?”
“she once paddled my bum”
“for just the price of a tip in her jar”

 
 

OT, heh, I have a light bulb that is five years old today. That’s 29,500,000,000,000 miles in light years!

 
 

Malaclypse, Donalde, Bigfoot and Hitler walk into a bar . . .

Malaclypse ordered a sissy librul drink, Donalde ordered a manly wingnut drink, Bigfoot ordered a beer and Hitler ordered his troops to invade Poland.

 
 

But who cares? VS will soon be a-nurse.

I imagine I’ll be too busy to look into a new career after Dudeskull is born. Although I’ve promised DKW I’d look into cheerleading. But, really, my passion is directing.

 
 

a manly wingnut drink

A Cosmopolitan?

 
 

A Cosmopolitan?

Used to be called a Cosmopolitan it’s new wingnut name is Wolverine.

 
 

But who cares? VS will soon be a-nurse.

I imagine I’ll be too busy to look into a new career after Dudeskull is born. Although I’ve promised DKW I’d look into cheerleading. But, really, my passion is directing.

OK, apparently WP decided to barf back up my first response. Thanks for nothing, WP. Second one was better.

 
 

From VS’ first link,

The group claims Martin Luther King would be against gay marriage, but his widow claimed otherwise

Dear indeed! Martin Luther King, an opponent of gay rights? Well, there goes my entire moral universe crumbling around me. Or there it would go, except for two things;

First, his widow claims otherwise, and I suspect she probably knew more about him than some half-assed ministers from Chicago.

Second and most importantly, Martin Luther King, like the Founding Fathers, was not a god; he was a human being. Gay people are also human beings, and as such, they deserve the right to marry the person they love, the right to adopt and raise children, the right to serve their country in all capacities and receive the protection of anti-discrimination laws just like the rest of us. Period. What MLK or any other one of our national saints would have thought of that is completely immaterial.

 
 

Malaclypse ordered a sissy librul drink,

I always get hangovers from those. Can I be a total wuss and just get a glass of water? Not a bottle – those are bad for the environment, and I’m persnickety that way. Just a glass. Thank you.

 
 

Used to be called a Cosmopolitan it’s new wingnut name is Wolverine.

rofl.

I totally want to create a drink called a Wolverine now.

Anyone awesome mixologists up to the task out there?

 
 

Anyone awesome mixologists

Or something that makes sense…

 
 

Can I be a total wuss and just get a glass of water?

Certainly, that would qualify as possibly the sissiest and librulest of drinks.

 
 

I suspect she probably knew more about him than some half-assed ministers

WRONG. Homobigot conservatives know more.

 
 

I totally want to create a drink called a Wolverine now.

It would have to very showy, full of bluster, hard to swallow, burn on the way down and leave you with a nasty hangover.

 
 

“Homosexualists use the heroic battle to end racial discrimination as a Trojan Horse to eradicate moral judgments about homosexual conduct.

Homosexualists?

 
 

Sub, I think this comment from your link proves that MLK really had no right to speak with authority on anything.

“LET’S STOP SUGAR-COATING A MAN WHO HAD MANY, MANY FAULTS & WAS A MAN OF LITTLE MORALITY.”

I wonder if all the women he cheated on his wife with thought he was a man of morality.

 
 

Homosexualists?

It’s like “Islamists” but they will TOTALLY BLOW UP balloons at a swell party.

 
 

As I have said elsewhere:

Cream pies are the zyklon B of liberal pogroms.

 
 

Certainly, that would qualify as possibly the sissiest and librulest of drinks.

Then I’ll take two. Thank you.

 
 

Progressive men throughout history have proven themselves to be unworthy of discussing issues of morality because of their propensity to womanize. I really think we need to leave that sort of thing to diaper-wearing, meth-huffing whoremongers.

 
 

Anyone awesome mixologists up to the task out there?

Thats easy. Tears Of Impotent Rage and sterno.

 
 

Mixed Russian Doll Monster Sweat with Mixed Beers

Ingredients:
6 cans Russian doll monster sweat, strained
1 ounce beer

Add the Russian doll monster sweat to the beer since it’s lighter. Serve in a medium jug. Phone the authorities.

 
 

Thats easy. Tears Of Impotent Rage and sterno.

Oooh. So this is why Boehner’s so drunk all the time.

 
 


Jennifer said,

January 17, 2011 at 20:37

Finally, did you hear that Rience Priebus or Pience Fience…

Peeance Freeance.

You’re welcome.

Coca Cola for moi!

P.S. Since the odds of that link working are rather low:

here ’tis
~

 
 

Here ya go VS.

 
 

Thats easy. Tears Of Impotent Rage and sterno.

Oooh. So this is why Boehner’s so drunk all the time.

That would explain the eerie orange pigmentation as well.

 
 

Wolvarine:

1 oz. inflammatory rhetoric
1 oz. Glenn Beck tears
1 can of “emissions” after reading Guns & Ammo
1 oz. Patrick Swayze (shut up I am NOT GAY)

Shake with rage

Serves: its purpose

 
 

Heh. Nice, fish. verra nice.

 
moderately good looking not so hunchback
 

….diaper-wearing, meth-huffing whoremongers.

Yes?

 
 

Say, I just got an idea for a new entry…anyone who writes up a recipe for a Wolverine will get featured in my blog. Wolverines all around! Cheers.

 
 

Mixed drinks are, by definition, sissifed. Compromise is not manly. Straight (If you know whut Ah mean!) bourbon, straight outta the bottle.

Anything else is Anti-American!!

 
 

Homobigot conservatives know more.

…because they have access to Michelle Bachmann’s database of infinite knowledge.

 
 

…because they have access to Michelle Bachmann’s database of infinite knowledge.

Sounds like a video game superpower.

 
 

DO NOT WANT that game.

BUT if you Blood Libel Sarah PAlin with extreme prejudice you get extra people for the Death Panel.

 
 

Furthermore!:

If, as they say, God spanked the town
For being over frisky,
Why did He burn the churches down
And save Hotaling’s whiskey?

~

 
 

Somebody blibeled Bible Spice?
~

 
 

I wonder if all the women he cheated on his wife with thought he was a man of morality.

No idea, but they did learn what he meant by “A man can’t ride your back unless it’s bent.”

 
 

Homosexualists?

A term that as far as I know arose in the 70s, an attempt (iirc) to counter the ridiculous notion that faggots do not choose to be faggoty faggy fags because it shlould be clear to everyone that we choose to be faggy fags because of all the social adavnatages thereof. Expulsion from school getting kicked by the landlord, getting beaten – often to death – going to jail and just generally being pariahs? Who could say no to that?

 
 

Rye is not totally Canadian…

Ahh, nothing like a snort of Old Overcoat to keep ya going! When I was quitwe young my mother used to sing a little ditty “rye whiskey rye whiskey oh how I love thee, you killed my poor father goddamn you try me.”

 
moderately good looking not so hunchback
 

The Nashville songwriter Tim Spencer penned this song in 1947 and recorded it with his group Sons of the Pioneers.

http://www.informatik.uni-hamburg.de/~zierke/martin.carthy/songs/cigaretteswhiskeyandwildwildwomen.html

Coincidence? Or CONSPIRACY!!!9!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111

 
 

Pupienus Maximus said,
January 18, 2011 at 0:03

Also too, cock is so sweet it cant be resisted. Anyone who tries gay sex once will be forever addicted ’cause it’s far hawter than straight sex oooooh I can’t stop thinking about it.

NB: Ummmm, that’s not me speaking by the way, though I hold those truths dear. That’s everyone who adored Anita Bryant speaking.

 
 

Wolverine:

2 oz. diaper pee
1 oz. wood alcohol
dash bitters
3 leaves nettles, muddled.

Muddle the nettles in a room-temperature glass with diaper pee. Add alcohol, bitter to taste.

Drink while crying, saluting the flag.

 
St. Trotsky, Pope-in-Avignon
 

Who could say no to that?

Shades of the Jew that reads anti-Semitic newspapers because it keeps telling him how he and his people rule the banks, the media, the government and really the world.

And by shades, I mean, pretty much the same fucking joke.

 
 

I knew Reince Priebus when I worked the same law firm. He was never able to look me in the eye and he struck me as someone who would have a really weird sexual fetish, like wet canvas shoes. Or goats. or maybe goats wearing wet canvas shoes

 
 

And finally, before I exit on an errand to get contact cement EVEN THOUGH I JUST GOT BACK HOME , DEAR, with a h/t to The Ho and via Sully (whose blog The Ho reads, I avoid it like the plague that it is), Poe’s Law

 
 

Shades of the Jew that reads anti-Semitic newspapers because it keeps telling him how he and his people rule the banks, the media, the government and really the world.

Sometimes, I think that’s the only reason I still read conservative crap from time to time. It’s nice to know how all-powerful I/we am/are.

 
 
 

Ahh, nothing like a snort of Old Overcoat to keep ya going!

Good rye is even better…although drinking rye is the alcoholic equivalent of Calvinism: you have to hate yourself as much as god hates you for it really work.

 
 

Poetry swells in the heart of the American bear.

Hot.

Homosexualists use the … end … as a Trojan Horse

Indeed.

“LET’S STOP SUGAR-COATING A MAN WHO HAD MANY, MANY FAULTS & WAS A MAN OF LITTLE MORALITY.”

I wonder if all the women he cheated on his wife with thought he was a man of morality.

So, what, just like a typical Republican other than the black thing, eh? Oh, and the courage of his convictions thing.

 
 

Oh, FTR Prance Ryebus is totally pinging my gaydar.

 
 

Anyone else think the new GOP chairman looks like a mo?

But but but he has a wife. She appears to be of the finest sort of blow up doll Stepford Wife WASP.

 
 

Wolverine:

2 oz. diaper pee
1 oz. wood alcohol
dash bitters
3 leaves nettles, muddled.

Muddle the nettles in a room-temperature glass with diaper pee. Add alcohol, bitter to taste.

Drink while crying, saluting the flag.

Needs more dildo.

 
 

Needs more dildo.

What doesn’t?

 
 

Needs more dildo.

What doesn’t?

Whew, I thought Tigris meant *I* need more dildo.

 
 

Whew, I thought Tigris meant *I* need more dildo.

Card maxed out?

 
moderately good looking not so hunchback
 

Must click on PM’s YT link at 0:15.
Incredible viewing.
Also, I need to sniff some contact cement as well.

 
 

Sons of Pioneers? Bah!

(YOUNG) PIONEERS!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcDdyvg57NY

“that we all breathe the same oppression, i was confirmed in my belief
vicious attacks on the victims have never caught true thieves”

 
 

Malaclypse, Donalde, Bigfoot and Hitler walk into a bar . . ..

Bigfoot lets out a series of howls, and everybody in the bar winds up deaf.

http://www.bfro.net/avevid/mjm/Howl.mp3

Oh, and then the mom comes flying down from the rafters on a trapeze while blowing her cousin the midget, and as they swing back and forth, they crap a malarial enema all over everybody at the bar.

Bigfoot looks up and says, “So, what’s your act’s name?”

 
 

The fact is, I ate about 3/4 of a pint of Ben and Jerry’s Chocolate Fudge ice cream today.

 
 

The fact is, I ate about 3/4 of a pint of Ben and Jerry’s Chocolate Fudge ice cream today.

Psht. Get back to me when you’ve gotten up to a quart.

Or even a fifth.

 
 

Chris wrote:
“Well, that’s the other thing. The more nukes proliferate, the more opportunities there are for them to be used. And no one’s come up with a solution for that either, so far.”

Uh, sharks with frickin’ laser beams attached? Is that too much to ask?

Seriously, the only “bright” future I see for regular nuke proliferation is some newer, even more frightening, more terrifying, more convenient weapon to be invented. Like space based lasers. China or Russia or India might get there first, and of course, as soon as we fall behind on this because we refused to invest in schools & children, the Teahadists will rail, rail, rail.

Much as I’m no fan of running around waving guns in peoples’ faces to protect our “interests” (aka, gimme!), being on the losing end of that can suuuuuuck. OTOH, maybe that’s another reason to be nice to people on the way up.

Hmm, maybe I’m old school, imagining doomsday weapons, when the next terror by the cutting-edge technologists might be, say, little flying robots with flapping wings that look like moths and just drop some plutonium dust up somebody’s nostrils while they’re sleeping. The latter is my scary twist, as for making tiny robots that fly like insects and carry spy devices, that’s already being worked on, as is grafting sensors into real-life moths.

 
 

Bill Maher is a reason for hope that someone is trying to make a difference.

I’m less than thrilled about his opinion of vaccination, though.

 
 

Is Bill Maher still claiming to be a libertarian?

 
 

Shades of the Jew that reads anti-Semitic newspapers because it keeps telling him how he and his people rule the banks, the media, the government and really the world.

And by shades, I mean, pretty much the same fucking joke.

I can clear a beach or swimming pool without
touching water.
I can make a lunch counter become deserted
in less than an hour.
I can make property value drop by being seen
in a realtor’s tower.
I ALONE can make the word of God
have little or no meaning to many in Sunday’s morning prayer hour.
I have Power.
BLACK POWER…

[Don L. Lee, “Stereo”]

 
 

when the next terror by the cutting-edge technologists might be, say, little flying robots with flapping wings that look like moths and just drop some plutonium dust up somebody’s nostrils while they’re sleeping.

Or a giant multinational corporation could dump uncounted volumes of oil into a fragile ecosystem, then use something like Corexit to try and cover up their mess.

 
 

If bill is still claiming to be one, I’ve never heard him say it on his show.

 
 

The Wolverine:

Wet the rim of a beer glass, preferably with the sympathetic tears of a Glenn Beck viewer who also sees how liberals have brought down this great nation. Roll the rim on a plate of crushed cheetos, and recite “A true Warrior lets his fists do the thinking”. Pour in a half can of Budweiser, America’s Beer, and salute the flag on the can.

In a shot glass, mix equal parts Jagermeister and Code Red. raise the shot glass in your left hand, pausing dramatically to stare at the red mixture and consider how someone ought to start watering Tree of Liberty soon, and how you will surely come out to support them when they do.

Drop the shot glass into the Budweiser, shouting “WOLVERINES!!!!”, but not too loundly lest you wake mom or napping NRO staff members. Quickly down the mixture, being sure to grab the glass with your right hand.

Slam the shot glass upside down the table, then slam the beer glass down on top of it, crushing the shotglass like a William Kristol article crushes the lies of Paul Krugman.

Repeat as often as necessary.

 
 

Mysticdog: gag-tastic.

I knew I was missing something. CHEEEEEETOOOOS! *shakes fist at sky dramatically*

 
 

Oh mysticdog you will so be pimped.

 
 

The Wolverine, properly prepared, is a 32-ounce Mountain Dew, with Cheeto dust finely sprinkled around the rim of the Big Gulp you are drinking it from.

Some variants mix in any liquor one can sneak out of Lucianne’s liquor cabinet, but she guards that shit with an eagle eye lately.

It is usually drunk while playing WoW, wondering why nobody will ever group with your 12th-level dwarven paladin you tastefully named Reagan. It often ends horribly, when you once again forget to take a bio break.

 
 

Bill Maher saying he’s a libertarian on his show.

To be fair he just seems to wanna smoke dope and fuck porn stars, but he’s had a variety of stupid opinions. His wikipedia entry says something about privatizing Social Security.

 
 

Wow, when Bill Frist is the voice of reason in comparison, you have gone off the freaking deep end.

 
 

Yeah, I doubt he wants to privatize ss now. If you watch his show with any regularity you’ll see hes about the only guy on tv who really gives it to Moron America.

 
 

he’s had a variety of stupid opinions

As Anon mentioned above, he’s flirted with the anti-vax crowd. I kind of like him, but the anti-vaxers all need to die horrible deaths from preventable diseases.

 
 

Since I don’t really give a shit I won’t bother to look … has BM* updated his opinions now that the quackadoodle doctor who wrote the original, now dismissed, paper has been shown to be a fraudulent piece of shit? And that the entire “study” was a fraud?

 
 

*If that’s a VcobagR I apologize for not putting it more overtly.

 
 

Oops. And such as also.

 
 

I think Maher’s capable of telling good jokes and calling bullshit on people, which is good. He’s one of the anti-vaccine nuts with a public platform, which is bad.

I think the dead people outweigh the good jokes, but hey, give and take.

 
 

If he is anti-vaccine, he and i would part ways on that subject. I imagine we disagree on other issues too. Luckily I don’t need to be in lockstep with someone to find them interesting or, you know, RIGHT about most stuff.

I love Amanda Marcotte but flatly disagree with her about some things. Hey, it happens.

 
 

I apologize for not putting it more overtly.

More overtly is known as “presenting.”

 
 

I imagine we disagree on other issues too.

The problem is that his position is contrary to fact and has been proven deadly. I don’t mind disagreeing with someone on a topic of opinion, but this isn’t one.

 
 

PM, as a very-pro-science kinda guy*, I am intrigued. Can you give me something to read re. the flatulent, er, fradulent study/doc?

* And yes, Bigfoot researcher, too…

 
 

Unfortunately there’s nothing I can do about his stance on this issue. If his stance on vaccines cancels out every other single thing of value he may say for some, that’s cool. That’s not the case for me.

 
 

N_B, also, he has a public platform that he speaks from, so he can do a lot of damage. Ugh.

 
 

“Wolverine in the Bunker”

7 oz dried Limbaugh shavings, frozen
Handful of Iraqi sand
7 quarts sweet, light, crude
3 threads from a Sarah Palin maternity bra of FREEDUM!
2.5 drams of Boehner zest, fresh
2 splashes of dried Beck tears
16 oz of jagermeister, heated
1 bag of crushed cheetos

Put the Limbaugh shavings, cheetos, and sweet, light crude into a mixing bowl. Beat until the shavings melt in the crude, and the cheetos have a firm orange froth. Spoon out the froth, and put the remaining fluid into a small sauce pan over low heat. Smoke a cigar and imagine being John Wayne’s best side-kick. Call Jane Fonda a fag, and add the Boehner zest and dried tears as the concoction begins to simmer. Think about joining the Marines, and start playing your copy of “The Green Berets” – and imagine you are right there with “The Duke”. Add the Sarah Palin bra threads, pour in the jagermeister, and smear the results over your entire body. After regaining consciousness, put your clothes back on, and continue the intertoobez war from your basementcommand bunker.

Serves one loner in a basement.

 
 

I’m starting to sense a theme here.

 
 

I made my Wolverines by drinking straight from mom’s dead-fetus jar.

 
 

Oh mysticdog you will so be pimped.

I guess we both knew I’d eventually be your bitch 😛

 
 

Ok, I know I’m not a great flirt, but the whole thread died? Geesh.

 
 

Nonsense. If anything killed it, it was the Maher/vax convo.

 
 

If the thread is dead, I need something to put in the fetus jar so mom doesn’t notice it getting empty.

 
 

Oh George. I think you need a Wolvertini. Maybe several.

 
 

I think you need a Wolvertini. Maybe several.

As long as nobody lets Laura get behind the wheel, it will all be good.

 
 

Can you give me something to read re. the flatulent, er, fradulent study/doc?

Orac at Respectful Insolence is ready to fulfill all your anti-vaxer needs. He specializes in blasting quackery of all sorts, and he especially loves to stomp on the anti-vaccine guys.

Andrew Wakefield is the author of the phony study in question, and Orac has tons of stuff on him.

 
 

vs, it is okay if you love Bill Maher. It is even okay if he is in fact bearing your offspring. I do not share your affection, but I love you, and Bill Maher can’t change that.

 
 

justme at 1:07 – a big thank you for that link to the “states’ rights” article.

 
Science-talking Guy
 

PM, as a very-pro-science kinda guy*, I am intrigued. Can you give me something to read re. the flatulent, er, fradulent study/doc?

http://www.bmj.com/content/342/bmj.c5347.full

 
 

Ditto, very good article at the WaPo.

Whenever I heard them wail, “States’ rights!”, I just want to shout, “States’ rights to DO WHAT?”

‘cuz you know it’s not about toll roads or weights & measures.

 
 

Whew, I thought Tigris meant *I* need more dildo.

Card maxed out?

I don’t think my ass can take another potato.

 
 

I am not sure why that is funny. On the other hand, ass+potato: it MUST be funny.

 
 

Snidely’s Evil Plot discontinued

Hiya.

I seen no practical way to seize control of Teh Google listing for ‘quel fromage.’ ‘What cheese?’ frequently appears in cooking articles written in French, e.g. ‘What cheese for the fondue?’ Pages and pages and pages of articles. *sigh*

The medals will probably go into the Secret Vault for safekeeping. I don’t expect there will be many more awarded. (If so, the standard will be more like the Victoria Cross or Medal of Honor…not the Distinguished Service Medal.) My real purpose was always to express appreciation to other commenters, mostly for their wit, humor, word play, and deft writing.

I’m also contemplating fading back into lurker mode again. If I do so, you can be sure than Snidely is still out there, checking into S,N! daily, and laughing his fool head off.

As always, have fun!

— Snidely

 
 

Oh man, I was this close, too, I could feel it.

 
 

WOLVERINE
Rub rim of glass with orange slice
1 part bourbon
1 part white rum
1 part Frangelico
add soda to taste. Serve over ice with orange slice garnish.

You’re welcome.

 
 

The Sour Diesel doesn’t hurt, either. About half a bowl in that case.

Yasss, yass.

 
 

“States’ rights to DO WHAT?”

Shove a potato up your ass. Why, what did you think they meant?

 
 

Italians have awesome sex scandels! Bunga! Bunga!

“Silvio Berlusconi reels as ‘Ilda the Red’ lands the first blow”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/16/silvio-berlusconi-sex-case

The investigation will examine allegations that Berlusconi paid to sleep with a nightclub dancer, Karima El Mahroug, known as Ruby the Heartstealer, when she was 17, and subsequently had her freed from a Milan police station – where she was being held on suspicion of theft – by fooling officers into thinking she was the granddaughter of the Egyptian president, Hosni Mubarak. If found guilty, the 74-year-old prime minister faces up to 15 years in jail.

Berlusconi claimed on Friday that Boccassini and her colleagues were “subverting the fundamental rules of democracy” and joked that they were just “jealous” not to have been invited to the parties at his mansion outside Milan where he entertained Mahroug and scores of other young women.

Details now released show investigators believe Berlusconi’s “Bunga Bunga” party guest list extended beyond Mahroug to a regular cast of beautiful women he put up in apartments in Milan. Police raided the apartments last week seeking evidence of cash payments to the women to back up suspicions they were paid to have sex with Berlusconi. Mahroug admits to receiving €7,000 from Berlusconi, although she denies having sex with him.

Tracing her movements through mobile phone records, investigators believe she attended six parties and was at Berlusconi’s villa last April during a visit by Vladimir Putin.

Corriere della Sera reported that residents included Iris Berardi, a former Miss Italy contestant, the twins Eleonora and Imma De Vivo, who have appeared in an Italian reality TV show, and Ioana Visan, an escort previously recruited to attend Berlusconi’s Rome parties by Giampaolo Tarantini, the businessman who hired Patrizia D’Addario.

Investigators believe that the stable of women was run by Nicole Minetti, a half-British dental hygienist and TV showgirl who rose to become a politician in Milan after working on Berlusconi’s teeth.

Friends of Minetti, one of whom attended a party thrown by Berlusconi last September, confirmed to investigators the existence of a “Bunga Bunga” room at his mansion, with poles set up for pole dancing. Topless women in nurse and police costumes performed stripteases for Berlusconi, aiming to outperform fellow guests and be asked to stay behind for the night in return for payments of up to €10,000, it was reported in La Repubblica.

 
 

“Corriere della Sera reported that residents included Iris Berardi, a former Miss Italy contestant, the twins Eleonora and Imma De Vivo, who have appeared in an Italian reality TV show, and Ioana Visan, an escort previously recruited to attend Berlusconi’s Rome parties by Giampaolo Tarantini, the businessman who hired Patrizia D’Addario.”

“Investigators believe that the stable of women was run by Nicole Minetti, a half-British dental hygienist and TV showgirl who rose to become a politician in Milan after working on Berlusconi’s teeth.”

“Friends of Minetti, one of whom attended a party thrown by Berlusconi last September, confirmed to investigators the existence of a “Bunga Bunga” room at his mansion, with poles set up for pole dancing. Topless women in nurse and police costumes performed stripteases for Berlusconi, aiming to outperform fellow guests and be asked to stay behind for the night in return for payments of up to €10,000.”

 
 

Hmm, maybe I’m old school, imagining doomsday weapons, when the next terror by the cutting-edge technologists might be, say, little flying robots with flapping wings that look like moths and just drop some plutonium dust up somebody’s nostrils while they’re sleeping. The latter is my scary twist, as for making tiny robots that fly like insects and carry spy devices, that’s already being worked on, as is grafting sensors into real-life moths.

That would explain where all these luminescent Moths are coming from.

 
 

Test. FYWP.

 
Librarian Whiplash
 

<blockquoteThe Guns of August. [Barbara Tuchman] MUST read. — Pup

Outstanding book: Solid history, wonderfully organized as a narrative. Comprehensive stage-setting history: social, economic, political, diplomatic. The central focus is military history: The opening months of WWI, hence the title The Guns of August.

Tuchman’s military-history writing is clean, clear, and accessible for all readers. She paints vivid portraits of key actors–and there are some fascinating ones. I’m with Pup: MUST read.

 
 

OT, but American Stinker has dropped another motherload.

(forgive windy twitter link)

 
Librarian Whiplash
 

WWI was a great hinge in modern European history. Three empires disappeared: The Habsburgs and Hohenzollerns abdicated; the Romanovs were massacred. A Great Power was dismembered (and the fragments became more vulnerable victims for the Third Reich). The United States emerged from the war as a Great Power on the international stage. The economic, political, social, diplomatic, strategic, (and intellectual / artistic / literary) landscape of modern Europe was transformed.
Let me make two book recommendations: The first is history; the second is historical fiction.

The Long Fuse — Lawrence Lafore
The subtitle encapsulates the book: An Interpretation of the Origins of World War I.
The chapter titles are evocative: Historians and Causes … The Lost Utopia … The Austrian Anomoly … The Europe of the Armed Camps … The ‘Encirclement of Germany … The Bones of a Pomeranian Grenadier … The Third Man Falls Sick … The Breakdown of Europe.

Lafore provides a superb history of the quarter-century (1890-1914) run-up to the catastrophe. I had the good fortune of taking a course taught by Lafore as a visiting professor. He was an articulate and captivating lecturer; his writing is equally fine.

August 1914 — Alexander Solzhenitsyn
Set against the outbreak of war and the first Russian offensive into East Prussia, and centered on the the battle of Tannenberg, the catastrophic and tragic destruction of Samsonov’s army in the forests of the Masurian Lakes region. The novel’s time frame is approximately similar to Tuchman’s Guns of August.

The characters include many historical figures (including Samsonov); all are richly drawn. The central character–and moral center–is Colonel Vorontyntsev, a General Staff officer caught in disaster. The book’s conclusion contains a magnificent ‘truth-to-power’ scene

August 1914 is the first in Solzhenitsyn’s Red Wheel cycle of novels set against the history of the Soviet Union. This book is among the finest works of historical fiction I’ve ever read.

 
 

There is one thing that the American people know about PENIS. He, like them, is unequivocally anti-POOP. About the spokesmen for BOOBIES, they feel they know no such thing.

 
 

justme at 1:07 – a big thank you for that link to the “states’ rights” article.

More than welcome. I suspect that it will come in handy more than once in the coming year.

Whenever I heard them wail, “States’ rights!”, I just want to shout, “States’ rights to DO WHAT?”

What I liked about the article was that it plainly lays out that the South, at the time, was pissing and moaning about the North trying to exercise States Rights. Perhaps it was one of the issues crucial to starting the war. If it was, it was the South that was on the federalizing side of it. Neener-neener.

That’s what I’m going to shout at the fucking whiny-ass traitors.

Shove a potato up your ass. Why, what did you think they meant?

Seriously, the floor was slippery and I fell, alright?

 
Librarian Whiplash
 

Perhaps I should have prefaced my enthusiastic endorsement of Pup’s recommendation (and my later book recommendations). The subject was first introduced w-a-y upthread by Snort and El Manquesito:

[ironic references to reichwing reaction to Tucson:]

Isolated incident, lone gunman, not responsible.

One lone gunman, Gavrilo Princip, assasinated Archduke Franz Ferdinand in 1914. That isolated incident, lone gunman, etc. just might have had consequences, but who could have known?
— Snort

Weren’t a bunch of his anarchist Serbian buddies stationed along the parade route awaitin’ their chance? Like a dozen of the crazies? Sure he was the only one that fired when it mattered so, lone gunman I suppose. — El Manquesito

Snort’s reply:

Yeah, Ferdinand shouldn’t have been in Sarajevo, but again I think “who could have forseen” is a dangerous excuse.–

[Presumably from Wiki:]

“Things moved quickly thereafter. Austria-Hungary, unsatisfied with Serbia’s response to her ultimatum declared war on Serbia on 28 July 1914. Russia, bound by treaty to Serbia, mobilized its vast army.

“Germany, allied to Austria-Hungary by treaty, viewed the Russian mobilization as an act of war against Austria-Hungary, and declared war on Russia on 1 August. France, bound by treaty to Russia, responded by announcing war against Germany and Austria-Hungary on 3 August.

“Germany promptly responded on 4 August by invading neutral Belgium to open a quick path to Paris. Britain, allied to Belgium, declared war against Germany on 4 August. In just a little over a month all of Europe was at war.”

It’s rare to find an SN subject right in my wheelhouse. I wanted to contribute to the thread, so I took a big swing.

 
 

as for making tiny robots that fly like insects and carry spy devices, that’s already being worked on, as is grafting sensors into real-life moths

DARPA aka DC Philip Kindred Dick Fanclub.

WWI was a great hinge in modern European history.

No guff. Everything from the Lost Generation to the NSDAP to British decolonization came straight out of it. Colonel Smedley Butler nailed it: war is a racket.

 
 

Whiplash –

For a different view of the Russian revolution and fallout from WWI, try Isaac Deutscher’s trilogy on Trotsky: The Prophet Armed, The Prophet Unarmed, and The Prophet Outcast. A lot of 20th C events are made clearer..

 
 

While I’m at it, for a different view of WWII, try “Ivan’s War,” which describes the eastern front from the perspective of the common soldiers in the Red Army.

 
 

WWI was a great hinge in modern European history. Three empires disappeared: The Habsburgs and Hohenzollerns abdicated; the Romanovs were massacred. A Great Power was dismembered (and the fragments became more vulnerable victims for the Third Reich). The United States emerged from the war as a Great Power on the international stage. The economic, political, social, diplomatic, strategic, (and intellectual / artistic / literary) landscape of modern Europe was transformed.

And more generally, European hegemony as it had existed for several hundred years prior to that got shot in the head. Sure, it limped along until the post-WW2 era, but WW1 is what fatally wounded it methinks, especially from the point of view of the colonized people who had to be brought in to help fight the war and learned that their masters weren’t invincible.

 
 

What I liked about the article was that it plainly lays out that the South, at the time, was pissing and moaning about the North trying to exercise States Rights. Perhaps it was one of the issues crucial to starting the war. If it was, it was the South that was on the federalizing side of it. Neener-neener.

Well, it kind of fits into the broader pattern of red state ideology. If they do it, it’s okay. If someone else does, it’s not. In Calvin and Hobbes speak, “All this was very funny until she did the same thing to me.”

 
 

Oh, fucking Lord.

Sarah Palin explains the blood libel thing by saying it was unfairly spun by the media into something it wasn’t (I wonder, would a cotton-picking reference get a free pass too?), and says “They can’t make us sit down and shut up.”

It’s amazing how many times I’ve seen this in action, and it usually comes from conservatives. Slander and slander and slander until you say something really bad, then when someone points out that it was, in fact, a really bad thing to say, suddenly wrap yourself in the Bill of Rights and scream “Look! Look! They’re attacking my free speech rights! I’m the victim here! Help, help, I’m being repressed!”

Because, you know, me exercising my First Amendment right to call someone an antisemite is totally the same as repressing her own First Amendment rights.

 
 

Stop repressing me, Chris!!! You will not shut me up!!!!

 
 

Sarah Palin said,

Stop repressing me, Chris!!!

Veiled bondage reference…and I, for one, pray for a ball gag to be used.

 
 

How you callin a betch?

 
 

Veiled bondage reference…and I, for one, pray for a ball gag to be used.

No objection to bondage in principle, but I’d like to think I can do better than Sarah Palin.

 
 

Isaac Deutscher’s trilogy on Trotsky: The Prophet Armed, The Prophet Unarmed, and The Prophet Outcast.

 
 

The Bones of a Pomeranian Grenadier

KIA because, while it could pull the pin with its teeth, it could only bat fruitlessly at the activated grenade with its tiny paws

 
 

Gah – don’t know why that posted incomplete.

Isaac Deutscher’s trilogy on Trotsky: The Prophet Armed, The Prophet Unarmed, and The Prophet Outcast.

Deutscher is awesome, but I’d argue that the most-required reading on WWI is Fromkin’s A Peace to End All Peace: The Fall of the Ottoman Empire and the Creation of the Modern Middle East

 
 

Did you mix up a Wolverine yesterday? You’re famous this morning.

 
 

Deutscher isn’t really WWI reading, but he describes the aftermath in the east beautifully.

 
 

Deutscher isn’t really WWI reading, but he describes the aftermath in the east beautifully.

I have not read it in well over a decade, but I recall a lot of the diplomatic history to be during the war, as well as aftermath.

 
 

Personally, “The Economic Consequences of the Peace”, by Keynes, is utterly masterful. No dissing the brilliant historians who have covered this period, but Keynes called the clusterfuck in real-time.

Also, v importantly, reading Keynes makes McMegan cry.

 
 

Thanks to all for the list of history books, please keep ’em coming! “A Peace to End All Peace” is pretty high on my need-to-read list, glad to see an endorsement here.

 
 

You commies are all being quite the Reversionisers. The fact is that the Cause of WWI was Animal Rights terrorists trying to ban the valid and Constitutionally legitimate sport of hunting. The cause of WWII was liberals.

 
 

Also homosexualists. Homosexualist liberals.

 
 

“The Pity of War” by Niall Ferguson, written before he lost his mind. He makes a pretty convincing argument that the Brits should have stayed out of WWI as they had nothing to gain and an empire to lose.

 
 

Dragon-King Ruppert said,

January 18, 2011 at 16:02

The fact is, Yyou commies are all being quite the Reversionisers. […]

Fixed for satirical accuracy.

 
 

Oh yeah, well the fact is artistical license.

 
 

I enjoy artistical cheeses.

 
 

Also homosexualists. Homosexualist liberals.

Por que no Muslims, Broheim?

 
 

I like artistical cheeses.

 
 

He makes a pretty convincing argument that the Brits should have stayed out of WWI as they had nothing to gain and an empire to lose.

Before he lost his marbles, he was expanding on other people’s ideas. Bertrand Russell, criticized in his life for being an atheist, liberal and socialist (hmm, sound familiar?), argued this too re British involvement in the Great War.

 
 

WP taketh away, then barfeth back up.

Fucketh you, WP

 
 

Did you mix up a Wolverine yesterday? You’re famous this morning.

Finally! I made the big time!

 
 

The fact is Muslins are like Mexihicans in that they are lazy. They didn’t cause WWI or WWII, but they used both as part of their scheme to implement Shania Law and dilute the Gold Standard. You liberals may think it’s funny now, but wait until you are all praying to Mecca for looser monetary policies.

 
 

“Finally! I made the big time!”

First step, my blog. Then it’s limos, coke and whores on demand.

 
 

Before he lost his marbles, he was expanding on other people’s ideas. Bertrand Russell, criticized in his life for being an atheist, liberal and socialist (hmm, sound familiar?), argued this too re British involvement in the Great War.

I believe (not entirely sure) that Ferguson was arguing from a different angle than Russell but reached the same end.

 
 

He makes a pretty convincing argument that the Brits should have stayed out of WWI as they had nothing to gain and an empire to lose.

You know who else wished Britain had stayed out of WWI?

 
 

Then it’s limos, coke and whores on demand.

I’m heading to Central to try it out right now!

 
 

You know who else wished Britain had stayed out of WWI?

Wilhelm II?

 
 

I believe (not entirely sure) that Ferguson was arguing from a different angle than Russell but reached the same end.

IIRC, Russell objected on pacifist grounds, and also made the point that it would weaken the Empire. Not that the weakening of the Empire bothered him as such, but he was trying to influence those who might harbor these concerns.

 
 

I believe (not entirely sure) that Ferguson was arguing from a different angle than Russell but reached the same end.

Imagine a teapot, orbiting somewhere around the Fed, that continually spews free money into the system,,,

 
 

Imagine a spherical cow…

 
 

You liberals may think it’s funny now, but wait until you are all praying to Mecca for looser monetary policies.

Right. We’re better off praying to Jesus for money to rain from the skies, just like the Prosperity Theologians keep telling me.

 
 

“Imagine a teapot, orbiting somewhere around the Fed, that continually spews free money into the system,,,”

VGreenspanviagraR

 
The Tragically Flip
 

Because, you know, me exercising my First Amendment right to call someone an antisemite is totally the same as repressing her own First Amendment rights.

I’m really more upset that more attention wasn’t put on Instanut for that. Palin is just too ignorant to be expected to know what blood libel actually means. The only thing the episode demonstrates for me is her typical inability to ever admit error over anything. I’m sure a lot of people who aren’t Jewish or anti-Semitic probably didn’t know or only had a vague recall of the term (I had to google it to refresh my understanding, I knew it had to do with something anti-Semitic but forgot the specifics).

Reynolds is a god damned law professor. What’s his excuse for wrapping the right wing quest for victimhood in millenia of pervasive hatred for Jews? Or the WSJ editor who approved his piece? It wasn’t some off-the-cuff comment or an unfiltered blog post.

It’s long past time Reynolds got his due as the extremist he really is…and got the inevitable CNN gig that comes with such acknowledgment.

 
 

No surprise Palin said something anti-semetic as we all know she’s anti-semantic.

 
The Tragically Flip
 

If only she was anti-antic…

 
 

I’m really more upset that more attention wasn’t put on Instanut for that. Palin is just too ignorant to be expected to know what blood libel actually means.

Which has never been an excuse;

The only thing the episode demonstrates for me is her typical inability to ever admit error over anything.

This. If you inadvertently offend someone, that’s not your fault. But it’s customary to offer apology, even if it’s only in, “I’m sorry, I didn’t know, it won’t happen again. What I’m trying to say is…” Except once again, Palin is incapable of admitting she stuck her foot in her mouth. It’s all the liberal media’s fault, and help! Help! I’m being repressed!

This is why I had her pegged as an epic failure of leadership from the beginning. I don’t blame her for not knowing what the Bush doctrine was; she’s not a foreign policy expert. I do blame her for trying to bullshit her way out with “in what way?” and refusing to admit that she didn’t know what she was talking about, then trying to shift the conversation onto how the mean liberal media bullying her, instead of simply saying “I’m not a foreign policy expert, but I’m learning as fast as I can to remedy the gaps in my knowledge, and in the meantime, John McCain knows enough for both of us.”

 
 

She’s upping the ante by talking about her kids getting death threats.

The more she places her kids in the political picture with her, the more she paints them with her political identity, she’s the one putting them in danger.

Funny thing is, after her reality show, I think the public got a much more positive view of her kids – they were defying her, rolling their eyes at her like a kid would at any mom.

Now she’s clutching them to her breast again, claiming someone’s threatening her babies’ lives because of her political views.

Whether it’s true or not, what kind of parent would think it’s right to terrify her kids by publicly claiming that someone wants to kill THEM? poor little Piper’s probably having a hard time falling asleep, ever since her mom started telling the world that there was a creepy neighbor out to get her.

 
 

The Bones of a Pomeranian Grenadier

KIA because, while it could pull the pin with its teeth, it could only bat fruitlessly at the activated grenade with its tiny paws

BARHARHARHAR! That is all. Sometimes, the foony, she come.

 
 

what kind of parent would think it’s right to terrify her kids by publicly claiming that someone wants to kill THEM?

Sarah Connor, but those were special circumstances.

 
 

Sometimes, the foony, she come.

That was indeed LOLworthy.

 
 

Funny thing is, after her reality show, I think the public got a much more positive view of her kids – they were defying her, rolling their eyes at her like a kid would at any mom.

LOL, really? That’s awesome. Based on her daughter getting knocked up, I would guess she doesn’t have as tight a leash on her family as she wishes.

 
The Tragically Flip
 

I never really had a negative view of her kids. They’re frigging kids. Bristol is more a victim of the stupidity of abstinence only preaching than some villain.

 
 

Yeah, her kids seems okay. Likeable, even. Musta got that from Todd.

 
 

I never really had a negative view of her kids. They’re frigging kids.

This.

 
 

From stackozone’s American Thinker link: It’s often cited for the misleading “military-industrial complex” warning – something that Eisenhower never meant as a warning against the military but rather a warning against all top down efforts by government.

Except no, it wasn’t.

Sarah Palin explains the blood libel thing by saying it was unfairly spun by the media into something it wasn’t (I wonder, would a cotton-picking reference get a free pass too?), and says “They can’t make us sit down and shut up.”

Jesus, she is apparently incapable of understanding that she doesn’t have a Constitutional right for people not to point out how much of a fucking moron she is.

Also, WOW there are some great book recs in this thread, THANK YOU!

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

I’m not reading all this crap.

From stackozone’s American Thinker link: It’s often cited for the misleading “military-industrial complex” warning – something that Eisenhower never meant as a warning against the military but rather a warning against all top down efforts by government.

Head+desk. Ow.

 
 

Jesus, she is apparently incapable of understanding that she doesn’t have a Constitutional right for people not to point out how much of a fucking moron she is.

Thanks. That’s what I was trying to get at, but you made it more concise and to the point.

 
 

1) get on VS’ blog
2) ???
3) limos, coke and whores on demand.

Except, can I skip DKW’s mom?

Also,

WOW there are some great book recs in this thread, THANK YOU!

Help! Help! I’m being impressed!

 
 

something that Eisenhower never meant as a warning against the military but rather a warning against all top down efforts by government.

Ike was just too stupid to come up with the right words on his own. Thanks, American Thinker!

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Bachmann is infinitely better informed than Krugman

You just have to laugh.

In his defense, she is infinitely better informed than Krugman on how to be a bombastic fucktard, but I’m not sure that was what he was referring to.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Book recommendations?

Okay, fine. I’ll read the whole damn thread.

 
 

It’s often cited for the misleading “military-industrial complex” warning – something that Eisenhower never meant as a warning against the military but rather a warning against all top down efforts by government.

Yea, a 5-star general who served as Supreme Commander Allied Forces Europe would definitely have a problem with top-down management.

/facepalm

 
 

OK, I’m making a list, did I miss any?

WWI
Isaac Deutscher — The Prophet Armed; The Prophet Unarmed; and The Prophet Outcast. (Trotsky)
Niall Ferguson — The Pity of War
David Fromkin — A Peace to End All Peace: The Fall of the Ottoman Empire and the Creation of the Modern Middle East
John Maynard Keynes — The Economic Consequences of the Peace
Lawrence Lafore — The Long Fuse
Alexander Solzhenitsyn — August 1914 (fiction)

WWII
Catherine Merridale — Ivan’s War

 
 

limos, coke and whores on demand.

Can I get that with Verizon FiOS?!

 
 

OK, I’m making a list, did I miss any?

Not previously mentioned, but if there’s anyone here who has not read ‘Johnny Got His Gun”…

limos, coke and whores on demand.

Hot and cold running zombies.

 
 

It’s often cited for the misleading “military-industrial complex” warning – something that Eisenhower never meant as a warning against the military but rather a warning against all top down efforts by government.

There could have been a reasonable argument here that the “military-industrial complex” warning could be expanded to include any large government endeavors. I could go along with that. Ike did not say we should not have a military-industrial complex, he just said we should keep a very close eye on it. This seems sensible to me, just as strong oversight on any kind of government run single payer health system would make sense. It’s not a warning that there shouldn’t be one. I often think that one of the reasons conservative politicians strongly favor private options is because if they had government options to look after, they’d actually have to earn thier taxpayer funded paycheck.

 
 

Also, anytime a congress critter stands up and tells me that “government can’t do the job” he is simply telling me that he is incompetent and should be voted out of office.

 
 

Ike also argued against abuse of power by the scientific-industrial complex, which Bill Whittle at PJM pointed out totes meant Ike would have hopped onto the ClimateGate bandwagon.

In response to an appallingly unpatriotic critic, he went on to explain that he personally knew defense contractors and they were all patriots who understood that the country had to be defended, so (big used car salesman grin) we had nothing to worry about.

I often think that one of the reasons conservative politicians strongly favor private options is because if they had government options to look after, they’d actually have to earn thier taxpayer funded paycheck.

True. Much easier to keep the government dysfunctional and get a bonus paycheck from Wall Street thusly.

 
 

Yes, you missed The Guns of August by Barbara Tuchman. Cited by JFK and others as one of the most important books they’d read.

Also, do I need to make my daily Mark Levin libel in a separate comment?

 
 

Mark Levin is responsible for knucklehead proliferation.

 
 

And Dahl, Johny Got His Gun, noted by N__B and I think I mentioned it recently as well.

 
 

The squeamish might want to drink until numb before reading Johnny Got His Gun, BTW. Also.

 
 

Ike did not say we should not have a military-industrial complex, he just said we should keep a very close eye on it. This seems sensible to me, just as strong oversight on any kind of government run single payer health system would make sense.

He also warned that such an organization takes on a life of its own and that it can and will acquire power beyond anyone’s original intent and become the tail that wags the dog. It goes beyond oversight and talks about the mindset that can be created of constant fear and crisis (sound familiar?) and what that can do to free government.

Prescient, he was.

 
 

And Dahl, Johny Got His Gun, noted by N__B and I think I mentioned it recently as well.

I think I got the gist of it from that Metallica video.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

The squeamish might want to drink until numb before reading Johnny Got His Gun, BTW. Also.

Oh, fuck no, I’m not reading that. I had nightmares for years based on that Metallica video Open Cahoots mentioned.

 
 

Don’t know the video. What’s the song? I’ll go hunt…

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Yeah, that’s pretty much my worst nightmare besides being buried alive. *shudder*

 
 

I think I got the gist of it from that Metallica video.

Heh. The book is both less graphic and more disturbing than the movie, because it’s told from Johnny’s POV.

 
 

I would like to express my happiness that H. Mencken has returned and hope he sticks around for a long while. Can we also get Brad to return if only for a day so I can taunt him about the Patriots and how ascared Tom Brady was of the Jets pass rushers. LOL. Or I guess I could ununfollow him on Twitter and see how he’s dealing with his grief over there.

 
 

Re. Books. Not mentioned so far – All Quiet on the Western Front.

They say it’s good.

 
 

Linky no worky. FYiPad?

 
 

They say it’s good.

The most depressing book about WWI I’ve read, including actual histories and JGHG. But, yeah, a masterpiece.

 
 

Yeah, that’s pretty much my worst nightmare besides being buried alive. *shudder*

Your worst nightmare (besides being buried alive) is playing in a metal band?

 
 

Linky no worky. FYiPad?

Metallica used chunks of the JGHG movie as background to a music video.

 
 

Thanks to rock and roll we also need not waste time reading Ayn Rand or Herman Melville.

 
 

Perhaps “chunks” is the wrong word to use in this context.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Goddammit, you idiots, “pre-existing conditions” could be anything from asthma to a bum shoulder to diabetes. The point is that a lot of the time, it’s a constructed category that’s made to exclude people from coverage for minor conditions. I guess it’s our fault we have lousy genes.

 
 

I’ll say it here because it won’t be heard otherwise. I am doubting zrm’s cred due to his heinously not correcting vs on ‘linoleum’. I looked closer after commenting at your place vs and yes, it is definitely vinyl. Also, I did not mention over there that Armstrong (I think it was) started making true linoleum again after many years. The stuff I used came from SOCIALEST Europe.

FYWP

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Your worst nightmare (besides being buried alive) is playing in a metal band?

Yes. I have very sensitive ears. Also, I’m not a tool.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

The stuff I used came from SOCIALEST Europe.

You have linoleum? Is it a pain in the ass to take care of?

 
The Tragically Flip
 

Ike’s speech was nice, but it would have been even nicer if he had at least tried to do something to rein in the beast he fed for 8 years.

Then there were all the foreign policy foibles in the delirious heights of US occidental arrogance. This almost isn’t a parody. Iran is a good example of where the world is still paying for Ike. Others aren’t clean in this regard either, but Ike was bad for this stuff.

 
 

re: Johnny Got His Gun

First, I’d ever heard of it but I’d like to take this opportunity to point out Rule 34.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

First, I’d ever heard of it but I’d like to take this opportunity to point out Rule 34.

Jesus fucking Christ, why did I follow that link???

 
Librarian Whiplash
 

And more generally, European hegemony as it had existed for several hundred years prior to that got shot in the head. Sure, it limped along until the post-WW2 era, but WW1 is what fatally wounded it methinks, especially from the point of view of the colonized people who had to be brought in to help fight the war and learned that their masters weren’t invincible. — Chris

Excellent observations! The post-war ‘settlement’ also sowed the seeds for future instability, particularly in the Mideast.

WWI also brought about the demise of the Ottoman Empire (#4, if you’re counting). Diplomats in Paris and London drew arbitrary–sometimes absurd– borders and boundaries creating ‘countries’ out of the Ottoman possessions. We’re still living with the consequences of Balfour and similar Serious People.

 
 

Jesus fucking Christ, why did I follow that link???

You forgot the last time you listened to D-KW.

 
 

WWI also brought about the demise of the Ottoman Empire (#4, if you’re counting). Diplomats in Paris and London drew arbitrary–sometimes absurd– borders and boundaries creating ‘countries’ out of the Ottoman possessions. We’re still living with the consequences of Balfour and similar Serious People.

Yeah, in retrospect, maybe giving Arabia to the house of Saud was a bad idea.

 
 

From T&U’s links. The study mentions that a rather high number of Americans have conditions that would keep them from having health insurance or cause them to pay more for health insurance. In all three of the links the argument is made that, to take Surber for example “So, 65% of the 200 million people with health insurance through their employer are so diseased no one will insure them.” I know they are purposely being disingenuos, but it still amazes me that so many people buy this crap. Surber also adds this little bit of misinformation – “Obamacare always was an answer in search of a question — 80% of Americans are satisfied with their health insurance’. I think he means 80% of Americans who have health care. If I desired to be such a lying sack of shit as he, I could as easily say that 100% of Americans who don’t have health care are unhappy with thier health care.

 
 

The study mentions that a rather high number of Americans have conditions that would keep them from having health insurance or cause them to pay more for health insurance.

There are seven people in my company. Five of us have pre-existing conditions that would make getting insurance difficult or impossible, and none of us is particularly unhealthy.

 
 

the anti vaccine links (respectful intolerance) seem only to be talking about childhood vacs and their relation to autism, not the H1N1 or related.

I have heard or read something about them elsewhere that questions their use, but perhaps that was a dream… I do know a few medical people (including Mrs Lobbey) who refuse point blank to have the flu shots. Must ask about the reasoning behind it?

 
 

especially from the point of view of the colonized people who had to be brought in to help fight the war and learned that their masters weren’t invincible. — Chris

Does sound a bit like the Roman Army toward the end of the empire. Most of the legions were mercenaries who had never been near Rome.

I’ve found Daniel J Boorstin’s The Adventurers and The Creators to be fascinating overall history books. Not easy reads but well worth the effort.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

You forgot the last time you listened to D-KW.

Nevar again!!!!

I know they are purposely being disingenuos,

I don’t know if they are, at least some of them. I think some of these people are so dumb and so out-of-touch with reality that they have no idea what it’s like to try and get health insurance on the open market.

 
 

OMG, a Boxing Helena link. How weird, how obscure. It’s a terrible terrible movie but I like the first 15 minutes or so for its portrayal of romantic/sexual obsession. I’m ashamed to say I once owned this movie. Sherylin Fenn is crazy sexy. I know this makes me sound crankier than Andy Rooney, but I think she was our last great American sex symbol.

 
 

I think some of these people are so dumb and so out-of-touch with reality that they have no idea what it’s like to try and get health insurance on the open market.

For sad evidence of this, read this thread.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

I have heard or read something about them elsewhere that questions their use, but perhaps that was a dream… I do know a few medical people (including Mrs Lobbey) who refuse point blank to have the flu shots. Must ask about the reasoning behind it?

The only reason I can begin to think of is that it will possibly make you slightly sick for a couple of days.

Part of the whole point of vaccines, though, is not so much to protect yourself from the flu (if you’re healthy), but to protect vulnerable people through herd immunity.

 
 

Nevar again!!!!

At least it wasn’t Rick Astley.

 
 

re, Niall Ferguson’s WWI book, I had forgotten how original he was before he lost his mind… (ant btw, was it him represented in Ghost Writer?)

Also, WOW there are some great book recs in this thread, THANK YOU! and me too…

o/t, any of you lefty, swamp living zombie scum read David Vann? Worth $16.95 + pawage?

 
 

Another good one: “Dark Continent” by Mark Mazowe. In case you’re wondering, his opinion as to where the heart of darkness is located is the same as Conrad’s.

 
 

Mazower, not Mazowe. FYWP.

 
 

Ike’s speech was nice, but it would have been even nicer if he had at least tried to do something to rein in the beast he fed for 8 years.

This!

In fairness, Ike’s use of the CIA was partly meant to be a more discreet, less bloody, more targeted way of prosecuting the Cold War than the straightforward military confrontation of the Truman years (Korea had left a bad taste in a lot of people’s mouths).

That said, he used the CIA badly, against moderate elected left wing governments (Iran being the best example) while leaving the actual Soviet bloc unscathed.

What I’ll never understand is why he destroyed three center-left democracies (Iran, Guatemala and Zaire) without a second thought, but then actually supported Nasser in the Suez and partly allowed Castro’s rise to power in Cuba. What the hell kind of logic is that?

 
 

Part of the whole point of vaccines, though, is not so much to protect yourself from the flu (if you’re healthy), but to protect vulnerable people through herd immunity.

Yep, thats what I’ve always thought the reason was. I suspect that its her absolute fear of needles*, which aint, in my experince a good reason. However, i shall ask her, even medical folk have irrational fears, I suppose.

* VPR?

 
 

Didn’t HTML or DA go by the nym of Sumpthin’ Retardo before they found Raptor Jesus?

 
 

The two best resources for WWII are Call of Duty 3 and Medal of Honor: Allied Assault.

 
 

“Pre-existing condition” is a phrase constructed by and for the insurance industry. That it is included in every health-care debate is evidence that our side has lost.

 
 

Didn’t HTML or DA go by the nym of Sumpthin’ Retardo before they found Raptor Jesus?

HTML went by Retardo Montalbon.

 
 

“. I looked closer after commenting at your place vs and yes, it is definitely vinyl. ”

Whatever it is, it’s ugly like the rest of my kitchen.

 
 

Didn’t HTML or DA

Those two are so much alike it’s crazy! Ask them about Barry Bonds.

 
 

Thanks! My brain goes back to smoothness once more.

 
 

If MLK was alive today he’d leave poor people with pre-existing conditions out on hillsides to die.

 
 

If MLK was alive today he’d leave poor people with pre-existing conditions out on hillsides to die.

If Jesus were alive, he’d want proof of coverage before letting any lepers anywhere near him.

 
 

The fact is why are all you liberals picking on Bill Maher? Instead of Bill Frist? The fact is that liberals nevar look at the actual arguments and always side with whatever algore tells them to. Because they love algore, who is fat and thats because they are gay.

 
 

The fact is where are vaccinations in the Constitution?

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

I suspect that its her absolute fear of needles*, which aint, in my experince a good reason.

No, especially if she has any kind of patient contact. I think it’s actually required of front-line health care workers here, although I could be wrong.

 
 

The fact is if there was a vacinne for lieberalism then who ever invented it would get the Nobel Prize for Medicine. And that is probably Doctor Rand Paul who is a doctor and knows all about vacinnes.

 
 

Is trolling yourself a pre-existing condition?

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Fear of needles is a pre-existing condition.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Being a Paultard *should* be a pre-existing condition.

 
 

Nothingness is a pre-existing condition.

 
 

The fact is, your mom’s the whore.

 
 

“vacinnes.”

I like this spelling. It’s sort of fancy and French.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

DKW’s mom has more pre-existing conditions that can be counted on two hands. I believe they’ve even named a new crotch disease after her.

 
 

The fact is if there was a vacinne for lieberalism then who ever invented it would get the Nobel Prize for Medicine. And that is probably Doctor Rand Paul who is a doctor and knows all about vacinnes.

I believe you’re onto something; most conservatives are so far gone at this point that they’re more properly a concern for psychiatrists than for politics.

(No joke. When a person claims Obama’s raised his taxes, that Muslims won’t denounce 9/11 and that HCR is funding abortion, all of these things easily demonstrably false, the rest of us are allowed to wonder what the hell’s going on in people’s minds that makes them that immune to reality).

 
 

I never really had a negative view of her kids. They’re frigging kids.

Trig makes a lot of conservative commentators look bad though.

 
 

“Trig makes a lot of conservative commentators look bad though”

Lulz!

 
 

Oh yeah, well T&U’s mom has got so many diseases she gets venereal warts on her hands because there ain’t room left on her crotch for them.

 
 

Everyone’s always talking about venereal diseases, but I never hear about jovian diseases or saturnine diseases. Other than, of course, eating your own children.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Oh yeah, well T&U’s mom has got so many diseases she gets venereal warts on her hands because there ain’t room left on her crotch for them.

She got them from you. I told her not to touch it, but I guess she didn’t listen.

 
 

You know whats fun? Eating coconut cake and reading about venereal diseases.

 
 

She got them from you.

No, I just gave her some discount coupons – it’s her own damn fault about where* she went to use them.

*Veiled Whale Chowder Reference.

 
 

Eating coconut cake and reading about venereal diseases.

The experience could be improved by watching Boxing Helena at the same time. And, possibly, eating the cake without using your hands.

 
 

I got that orange pie this weekend. It was yummy.

 
 

I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Georgia the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slave owners will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood. No Muslims, Jews or Hindus. Don’t get me started on atheists.

 
 

“The experience could be improved by watching Boxing Helena”

I’m not sure watching Boxing Helena has ever improved anything.

 
 

No, I just gave her some discount coupons

Yeah, I wasn’t accepting coupons that day; EBT cards or nothin’ brah. I sent her on to Actor’s place. He’ll take anything. Including DKW’s ma.

 
 

And, possibly, eating the cake without using your hands.

I!
W?
N?

(channeling Actor, in his absence)

 
 

Who’s your daddy?

 
 

Everyone’s always talking about venereal diseases, but I never hear about jovian diseases or saturnine diseases. Other than, of course, eating your own children.

Geesh, I am so sick of people making every frickin thing some kind of disease or syndrome! What now, “Jovian Disease” awareness days? Football players wearing pink or blue bibs during the game? Do they get their own special lines in restaurants? Are we supposed to show support with “Baby on Board” signs for our ovens?

 
 

I’m not sure watching Boxing Helena has ever improved anything.

Sex with D-KW’s mother?

 
 

I’ll be honest: I wouldn’t mind making some walking around money. I’m gonna see if http://www.sexyplacestoputcoconuticing.org is available.

 
 

Actually, the baby on board sign for the oven is an awesome idea. I’m so doing that.

 
 

“I’m not sure watching Boxing Helena has ever improved anything.

Sex with D-KW’s mother?”

Ok, the exception that proves the rule. Having it on is a distraction from the pain and shame.

 
 

On Saturnian Night is it BYOB?

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

I sent her on to Actor’s place.

Ouch. That actually kinda hurt.

 
 

Boxing Helena</i.

I don't understand. A movie about putting a box in a box?

 
 

Actually, the baby on board sign for the oven is an awesome idea. I’m so doing that.

Baby back ribs?

 
 

Wow. Just wow.

 
 

Box in a box is a well-known technique for architects to design theaters. They design a nice outside, they design a nice inside, and they stick all that icky engineering stuff that makes it work in the interstices.

 
 

I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Georgia the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slave owners will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood. No Muslims, Jews or Hindus. Don’t get me started on atheists.

The many faces of intolerance.

There was a fundie missionary church down the street from AU that I can honestly say was one of the most racially integrated places I’ve ever seen (reputedly, not all the churches that pastor founded were that way, but that’s another story). I sincerely did not detect any racial bigotry from anyone there at all.

On the other hand, God help you if you were a Jew, a Hindu, an atheist, a Muslim [shudder], or God forbid, a Catholic!

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Wow. Just wow.

I’m glad that guy and I don’t have the same daddy. He looks like Gollum.

 
 

DKW linked first. But, yeah…wow.

 
 

I’m glad that guy and I don’t have the same daddy. He looks like Gollum.

That was fucking funny.

 
 

God help you if you were a Jew, a Hindu, an atheist, a Muslim [shudder]

Actually, I’m pretty sure we atheists reviled even more than Muslims.

 
 

I missed DKW’s link, obviously. I blame the fact that my jaw was way too dropped to read well.

 
 

Actually, I’m pretty sure we atheists reviled even more than Muslims.

Not in that church, you weren’t.

Weird, actually; I remember them dissecting (badly and with deliberate falsifications) just about every religion they could think of, but they never hit upon atheism. Maybe they were part of that subsect that thinks you guys are secretly a branch of Islam.

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

No, no, she’s _from_ Gering, Nebraska; she’s not a Nazi zombie.

You misspelled it, it’s Göring, Nebraska.

 
 

BTW, ifthethunderdontgetya has found the best thing on the intratubes EVAR

No joke. It’s better than being Rickrolled and Subgoatsed at the same time.

 
 

Thanks for the rest of the book recs, guys.

Goddammit, you idiots, “pre-existing conditions” could be anything from asthma to a bum shoulder to diabetes. The point is that a lot of the time, it’s a constructed category that’s made to exclude people from coverage for minor conditions.

Yes, it doesn’t always keep people from getting health care, i.e. insurance companies use it not just to deny coverage but also CLAIMS for people who are supposedly covered, even after taking those folks’ money for years.

Those two are so much alike it’s crazy! Ask them about Barry Bonds.

I love you dearly, but you really are going to Hell.

Is trolling yourself a pre-existing condition?

Yes, so the resultant blindness and trichocheirosis will not be covered.

And, possibly, eating the cake without using your hands.

HOT.

 
 

That actually kinda hurt.

What? Now all of a sudden we’re all sensitive and shit?

Wow. Just wow.

He, he was just inviting you into the family of full humans, offering to share his daddy and everything. You’re free to do that or you can just keep your 3/5 of your humanity.

 
 

“God help you if you were [..] an atheist”
DIVIDE BY ZERO.

 
 

Speaking on Martin Luther King Jr. Day in the very church where Dr. King once pastored, new Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley gave a speech in which he said that those who have not accepted Jesus Christ as their savior are not his “brothers.”

Everybody else disowned his dumb ass. Also, re: parable of the prodigal son, Bentley = older brother.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

What? Now all of a sudden we’re all sensitive and shit?

Only because it raised the possibility that he could be my dad…

 
 

vs said,

January 18, 2011 at 20:56 (kill)

BTW, ifthethunderdontgetya has found the best thing on the intratubes EVAR

No joke. It’s better than being Rickrolled and Subgoatsed at the same time.

AHEM!

 
 

I am doubting zrm’s cred due to his heinously not correcting vs on ‘linoleum’

I was being considerate of her knock-upitude.

 
 

I was being considerate of her knock-upitude.

Hey, I don’t mind being corrected re: linoleum vs. vinyl. (Also, I’m hesitant to argue with a zombie) I’m less amenable to critiques of my choice in footrests, however.

Pup, I’m sorry…everybody’s stepping on everybody’s links today. D’oh!

 
 

The bum of your pa is a cavernous place
Home to a new kind of tapewormy race
Its depths plumbed by punks run afoul of the law
But that ain’t the half of what’s wrong with your ma.

 
 

“Pre-existing condition” is a phrase constructed by and for the insurance industry. That it is included in every health-care debate is evidence that our side has lost.

How so? It’s a scam that insurance companies have been running for years and now it’s been legislated out of existence. It’s sort of in the repeal debate to the extent that there is one going on but it’s about the most potent argument against repeal there is. Actually recission is an even more odious practice but hardly anyone knows what that word means. At some point if the Republicans are in a position to repeal HCR they’re going to have to address these things and doing so would be like arguing against Barry Bonds belonging in the Hall of Fame. A sure loser of an argument.

 
 

I’ll say it here because it won’t be heard otherwise. I am doubting zrm’s cred due to his heinously not correcting vs on ‘linoleum’. I looked closer after commenting at your place vs and yes, it is definitely vinyl. Also, I did not mention over there that Armstrong (I think it was) started making true linoleum again after many years. The stuff I used came from SOCIALEST Europe.

A gay interior designer. Could you BE any bigger a stereotype?

I’ve tried to spec lino in a couple of projects, but apparently you have a more well-heeled client base than I do.

 
 

Artist’s impression of VS.

 
 

“Obamacare always was an answer in search of a question — 80% of Americans are satisfied with their health insurance’. I think he means 80% of Americans who have health care. If I desired to be such a lying sack of shit as he, I could as easily say that 100% of Americans who don’t have health care are unhappy with thier health care.

a friend of mine and i argue about this quite frequently…he taking the case that EVERYBODY is happy with their health insurance. he no longer works because of his health issues (blood clots in the brain and lungs are frequent) and his wife is a teacher in one of our consolidated school districts. She is paying through the wazoo for their share of the premiums and most of her colleagues are less than pleased with the amount they have to pay because of said conditions. To top it all off, she was diagnosed with breast cancer last year.

I also pay out the wazoo for my health insurance even with a hideously high deductible that i am never able to burn through. i was informed by the great state of mn that i make too much money–hubby and i both work for non-profits, so no, we don’t— and i no longer qualify for mncare even though i was one of the first batch signed up who were promised that they would never be un-enrolled from the program because of income. i am very, very disappointed and pissed off.

anyhoo, i await the day when the teacher-wife no longer is employed because of declining enrollment and budget cuts and they have to find their own insurance…lots of luck with finding it!

 
 

Your dad grows potatoes up his bum,
About tubers, he thinks “Yum!”
Starchy anuses make him cum
But he’s totes vanilla compared to your mum.

 
 

The fact is the vast majority of people that Jesus cured of disease of fed when they were hungry were not Christians. So when the crazy preacher says that non-Chritians are not his brothers I have to wonder, WWJD?

 
 

BTW, Sub, could you tell your dad to quit drunk-dialing me at all hours of the night? I rocked his world that one time, now he won’t leave me alone.

 
 

,,,WWJD?

Raptor Jesus or Free Market Jesus?

 
 

also, too…“Bachmann is infinitely better informed than Krugman,” Hinderaker

sadly, yes!

 
 

Raptor Jesus or Free Market Jesus?

or tosh.0 jesus? ‘cuz he would start them on fire and send them to hell…

 
 

Republican Jesus would totally kick the less fortunate in the face.

 
 

also, too…“Bachmann is infinitely better informed than Krugman,” Hinderaker

tag fail…fywp
also, too…“Bachmann is infinitely better informed than Krugman,” Hinderaker

 
 

wtf? why does my strikethrough show up in preview but not in post?!?!?

 
 

I would not dip Macon Bacon in chocolate and eat it.

 
 

Those are amazing sculptures, though.

Speaking of amazing sculptures. Some beliefs are much older than Judaic history.

 
 

Your dad loves an ass-bang from ravers or punkers
His butt’s been the object of scores of spelunkers
When not felching that one he felches the other
But even with all that the whore’s still your mother.

 
 

Everybody stand back–it’s Daddy Dozens!!!

 
 

The men who have fucked your dad in the ass,
Is a number that very few will surpass.
He’s been had by every Hairy Dicked Tom,
But still by fewer than have fucked your mom.

 
RepigsAreThePringlesOfHumanity
 

That picture of Always-Wrong Kristol getting pied is ANOTHER example of the endless violence by Liberals.

 
 

Your dad drinks cheap vodka to keep himself calm
Potatoes and gourds his ass he pulls therefrom
For his night on the town he needs gallons of balm
But the hooker, the whore, the cheap trollop’s yer mom.

 
 

Republican Jesus would deregulate the moneychangers in the temple.

 
 

Ok, so I asked if the “fucking your dad” jokes lost, um, oomph if they were made by a woman. I have my answer. I’m BUMMED though. I was hoping it would be my “thing.”

 
 

Me can hear the gears of butt poetry inspiration churning away.

 
 

Your dad’s prostate is sore and bruised
From all the rough ways it has been used.
He’s a downright skanky old bear,
But a model of virtue considering ta mère.

 
 

Your dad’s got a weakness for shit-covered dicks
When he’s dirtied them up then he cleans off the pricks
He spins ’round the cocks like a fast-whorling top
But really the whore here’s your mom, not your pop.

 
 

Your dad, when he’s really in luck
Has Yorkshiremen give his butt a fuck.
“Luxury!” he screams as his ass gets raw
But he’s a prude compared to your ma.

 
 

Be vewwy quiet…artists at work…

 
 

Ass-to-mouth Subby? I think you’ve been watching too much Human Centipede.

Your dad eats shit for the win,
That’s why he has that grin.
But the frothy mixture known as Santorum
Is much better suited to the whore that’s your mum.

 
 

Bachmann is infinitely better informed than Krugman

Weirdest. BTO. Review. Ever.

 
 

jim, I actually just laughed out loud. Bra-VO.

 
 

Your father at night is seldom alone
He spends much of his time doin’ the rusty trombone
Of the Dirty Sanchez he’s a happy receiver
But the most used appendage is still your mom’s beaver

 
 

Your dad has been gangbanged by Mormons and Turks
It’s a wonder his slime-laden butthole still works
And still, when the bus leaves he hollers out “MORE!”
But when all’s said and done it’s your mom that’s the whore.

 
 

” Santorum
Is much better suited to the whore that’s your mum.”

Uh-oh. A Santorum’s been thrown. This shit just got real.

 
 

Careful! Thar still a fligin’ pooh!

 
 

Super secret prize for the guy who can work in santorum and quorum.

 
 

Weirdest. BTO. Review. Ever.

that took me almost five minutes to ‘get’…i kept trying to figure out what BTO was textspeak for…duh…

 
 

My puppy, Acheron, had gas last night. By golly it did sound like his arse was repeating Bachmann logic. Unlike Hindraker even Acheron knew when to leave the room.

 
 

Weirdest. BTO. Review. Ever

also, this made me laff…

 
 

A Santorum’s been thrown. This shit just got real.

*crouches while opening large umbrella*

 
 

I geuss our warriors are pooped out.

 
 

Krugman:

Conservatives used to be defeatists about… POOP!

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/18/stuff-happens/

 
 

Your father’s been mobbed by a a union hall’s quorum
Of pipelayers looking to feed him santorum
His asshole is gaping, the goatse guy’s jealous
But your mom’s the whore, so say all the fellas.

.

.

What do I win?

 
 

WWJD?

Slap the living piss out of that ignorant sack of shit?

 
 

One donkeypunch isn’t enough for your father
When he comes to he asks for another
My knuckles they pack a sweet wallop
Like when they’re fisting your mom the real trollop

 
 

That groan was for snort not bilo

 
 

Your dad has been had by many rough lads
He’s a vector for rectum infection
He spends all his time dreamin’ of gallons of semen
But your mom’s still a whore for erections.

 
 

WC, your prize…

Coconut cake: out
Webcam: on

 
 

What do I win?

It Depends.

 
 

Someones Dad is definetly going to need something.

 
 

Weirdest. BTO. Review. Ever.

that took me almost five minutes to ‘get’…i kept trying to figure out what BTO was textspeak for…duh…

I just googled it because, um, OH NO A MONSTER RUN AWAY!

I hear that your Dad’s not a shower,
nor even that much of a grower
though to hot dogs in fudge
he’s a slave, wink wink nudge
it’s your Mom who is really a goer.

 
 

New upstairs.

 
 

New upstairs.

Thank god.

 
 

Last Tuesday I buttfucked yer daddy
Without a trace of a lubricant, laddy
Fit just fine though I’m big like salami
And yet three of me’d fit in yer mommy

 
 

Webcam: on

w00t!

Wait…on what?

 
 

“Thank god.”

Hey, i didn’t say it was a GOOD prize.

 
 

bbkf:

why does my strikethrough show up in preview but not in post?!?!?

Do this: <strike>yer dad</strike> yer mom is the whore.

 
 

Do this: yer dad yer mom is the whore.

why, thank you for taking the time from buttsecks talk to help me out…and how did you know about my mom? is she there?

 
 

is she there?

She’s whispering dirty limericks sweet nothings in my ear.

 
Librarian Whiplash
 

Does sound a bit like the Roman Army toward the end of the empire. Most of the legions were mercenaries who had never been near Rome. — Snort

True. Most garrison units, however, where hired from indigenous populations, e.g., the ‘Roman’ legions stationed on Hadrian’s Wall in GB, or the garrison legions in the Rhenish provinces and along the Danube. The American Empire does something rather similar with local forces raised to reinforce occupations, e.g. ARVN in Vietnam, or the ‘trained’ Afghan Army units.

But the American Empire also uses the hired-mercenary model of the condottieri from the Renaissance: Foriegn soldiers-of-fortune were hired as ready-made, organized, and trained professionals serving under contract and under their own captain (or warlord). This is approximately analogous to the so-called ‘private security services’, such as Blackwater [Xe] used by the American Empire in Iran and Afghanistan (and no doubt elsewhere unknown to us).

The condottieri model is far more costly and distorts the ‘official’ deployment numbers downward: Tens of thousands of ‘security service’ forces are NOT included in DOD’s official deployment numbers, which only apply to uniformed US military personnel. Yet these exorbitantly expensive mercenaries are part of the real financial costs of the war.

To my mind. the most dangerous aspect of the contract-mercenaries is their ambiguous status in the military command structure and their legal accountability. What law governs them? UCMJ? US civil law? Host country law? International law? (Thus far, they seem to be nearly immune from any law.)

The widescale introduction of condottieri-model mercenaries is dangerous for any number of reasons…and is among the worst military-policy legacies of the Bush Administration. Apparently, Obama likes them, too.

Time for me to STFU! (When I get started on military history and theory–or military affairs–this sort of windy comment often ensues.)

 
Librarian Whiplash
 

OK, I’m making a list, did I miss any? — Tigris

Thanks for consolidating the recommendations in one place! I’m definitely interested in the Fromkin book on the collapse of the Ottoman Empire and the aftermath.

I will take the liberty of adding one more, because it takes the reader inside the WWI Battle of the Somme in remarkable way:

The Face of Battle — John Keegan

This is a remarkable study of warfare from the perspective of the soldier in combat–at the point of maximum danger–written by a highly distinguished military historian. Face of Battle is a classic examination of the changing nature of warfare.

Keegan’s opening essay is a brilliant exposition of the uses and limitations of military history. Thereafter, he closely describes an analyzes three battles located in the same geographic local, but seperated by centuries in time: Agincourt (1415) … Waterloo (1815) … The Somme [WWI] (1916).

For each battle, Keegan provides a clear, straight-forward narrative of the run-up to battle and the engagement itself. Keegan then pulls the battle into clear analytic strands–using thesame strands for all three battles. Keegan’s analysis includes some topics that are seldom discussed: The wounded–types of wounds, treatment, survival … Prisoners–treatment, acceptance of surrender, and the dark issue of killing captives.

Keegan writes with humility, clarity, perceptiveness. His style is engaging and accessible to any reader. The book is as much about the nature of man as it is about warfare. The Face of Battle is among the seminal works of military history; I highly recommend it.

 
Librarian Whiplash
 

Addendum: Keegan’s book has excellent reference maps for all three battles; easy to follow along with the narrative.

 
 

Then it’s limos, coke and whores on demand.

This is why I love cable.

 
 

Dayum. Another win.

 
 

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