What You Call An Internal Inconsistency, I Call A Win-Win Situtation
Posted on November 29th, 2010 by Tintin
ABOVE: Maksim Sergeyevich Bootin
Shorter Maksim Bootin, Neoconmentary
Journalism That Knows No Shame*
- The New York Times and the Guardian should be ashamed of themselves for leaking information that will allow our enemies to invade us, convert us, and take our women as their wives. This is particularly shameful because the cables reveal absolutely nothing that the entire world didn’t already know.
‘Shorter’ concept created by Daniel Davies and perfected by Elton Beard. We are aware of all Internet traditions.™
*Apparently neither Boot nor his editors do a last-minute headline check to avoid inadvertent ironic self-reference.
Oh good. We can finally quit casting that goddamn movie. I was about to suggest we clone Tilda Swinton about 50 times and have her play all the parts.
All your privacy are belong to us!
But.. but.. but SECRECY! and.. COMMUNISTS!! and…something.
Heck yeah! If your source is Big Dicky Cheney or Scooter Pie Libby then there’s nothing shameful in outing an undercover CIA agent. That’s good ethical watcha macallit.
Take my wife, please.
Anybody got time to do a quick Photochop?
http://media.monstersandcritics.com/articles/1356896/article_images/manhunter3.jpg
The Los Angeles Times should shitcan Max so the Daily Beast can hire him as its foreign affairs editor.
Love, Evelyn Waugh
The New York Times and the Guardian should be ashamed of themselves for leaking information that will allow our enemies to invade us, convert us, and take our women as their wives.
Al-Qaeda members can’t even take over their own countries. But yeah, sure, one Red Dawn coming right up.
I’m not a hawkish Republican anymore, not even a Republican, but an integrationist. I don’t really understand the paranoia surrounding the whole leak threat, but us big R&B stars feel a little bit of it now and then just because we’re big R&B stars. It’s reality based, if you can believe the story underlying this brand new song of mine.
Your Christmas Stalking (audio sample)
Dr. B.L.T.
words and music by Dr B.L.T. copyright 2010
http://www.drblt.net/music/ChristmasStalkingDemom.mp3
I got your ironic self reference.
We now seem to have reached a moment when the West’s major news organizations, working hand in glove with a sleazy website, feel free to throw spitballs at those who make policy and those who execute it. This is journalism as pure vandalism.
Whether true or not, Sadly, No! should take the entire credit for Dr.
Tuna-on-Rye’sBLT’s political conversion.We can finally quit casting that goddamn movie
The movie stuff was OK. The troll was the problem. I never thought I would see the day when a troll would produce something less grammatical than:
LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
but I think we have a winner.
On topic…I have been asking myself all morning where I stand on this issue. It seems I mostly think (A) democratic governments shouldn’t do things they don’t tell their citizens about, unless they have a Really Good Reason because then you don’t have a democratic government anymore; and (B) (with apologies to David Brin) governments who don’t think their citizens have a right to privacy probably shouldn’t be throwing privacy coloured rocks from the inside of their glass house.
We now seem to have reached a moment when the West’s major news organizations, working hand in glove with a sleazy website, feel free to throw spitballs at those who make policy and those who execute it. This is journalism as pure vandalism.
OW IT BROKED MAH BRANE.
Ain’t no way I’m clicking that link.
The New York Times and the Guardian should be ashamed of themselves for leaking information that will allow our enemies to invade us, convert us, and take our women as their wives.
Oooh, I hope I get a Frenchman!
“Whether true or not…”
Now you are thinking like a real journalist!
You’re right, LC. The troll definitely put a damper on the thread. Not the upcoming S,N epic.
“Oooh, I hope I get a Frenchman!”
Cue actor talkin’ French in four, three, two……
A relevant search:
http://www.google.com/search?q=site:www.commentarymagazine.com+drudge&ie=UTF-8
Well, it’s a good thing you’re a perennial cheerleader of blowing people up and have no sense of responsibility, then. Wouldn’t want you to feel “shame” and “embarrassment”.
Maksim Bootin
I call bullshit on Tintin. NObody could possibly inflict this kind of name on a child without expecting them to turn into a mewling sack of shit…
“Oooh, I hope I get a Frenchman”
I’ll take a Brit or Scot, thank you.
This Boot apparently considers himself a journalist because he hung out with some of them when he sponged at the WSJ. Sorry, Max, you don’t pick that up by osmosis.
Oooh, I hope I get a Frenchman!
You rang, madamoiselle?
Cue actor talkin’ French in four, three, two……
I missed my cue, but then I was always about the grand entrance.
I never thought I would see the day when a troll would produce something less grammatical than: LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL but I think we have a winner.
This is totally unfair. People keep going on about the LLLLLLLLLLLLL incident without mentioning that he also typed WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRR.
I’d link it, only all those comments got deleted. You just have to belieeeve me.
Hey, Tintin, I hope the powers that be at Sadly,No! are giving you a bigger cut of the ad revenues. Hell, you put in OT on a holiday weekend!
and this type of information is of interest primarily to editors and readers of Gawker, the gossip site (where I ran across it).
Bloody hell! That blighter Max spills his journaminimalist secret source!
Yeah, I’m not getting the skinny on Ghadafi’s hawt blonde Ukrainian nurse or his Botox shots from Assange … I’m getting those delicious nuggets of lulz via Max “Mum’s Your Uncle” Boot himself. For humanitarian reasons, I’d like to ask Max’s keepers not to cut off his food-pellets for this transgression – a few gentle 40-volt doses from Mr.Zapper should do the trick, guys.
Speaking of inconsistency, poor Max simpers plaintively over the shameless hussy Journalism who’s getting some folks ALMOST/KILLED by wantonly spilling Assange’s Magic Beans O’ Secretness everywhere … & then promptly links to the NYT article with all the latest hot POOP on Iran.
Fucking basic grasp of reality, how does it work?
NObody could possibly inflict this kind of name on a child without expecting them to turn into a mewling sack of shit…
And yet we have a mewling sack of shit. Res ipsa loquitor.
There was a time when editors and reporters thought of themselves as citizens first and journalists second.
Back when the First Amendment meant something and news divisions weren’t expected to turn a profit.
Hey, Bootay? Ever hear of Edward R Murrow? Funny fellow, used to piss off the government daily…
Commentary Magazine: Sloppy Sophistry for Serious Psychopaths
You rang, madamoiselle?
Dammit, all I know how to say is “oui.”
And “croissant.”
Dammit, all I know how to say is “oui.”
And “croissant.”
Ah can teech vous ze Franch tongue…
Up next on CNN, the new Breitbart/O’Keefe video exposé, “Obama the Pimpin’ Muslim who Hates America”
There was a time when editors and reporters thought of themselves as citizens first and journalists second.
Tell that to King George.
Up next on CNN, the new Breitbart/O’Keefe video exposé, “Obama the Pimpin’ Muslim who Hates America”
*vigourous “hole in one” golf applause*
Verrrrrrrrrry nicely stroked, sir!
Martini?
‘Dammit, all I know how to say is “oui.”
And “croissant.”’
You could be fat and happy in Paris.
Dammit, all I know how to say is “oui.”
By now, every American should also be able to say “Would you like to sleep with me tonight?”, even if you have to do it in song. Might even work better in song. I don’t know.
Wait, I thought the consensus on the right was that, as long as there’s a black man in office, throwing(?) spitballs at him and his collaborators was a patriotic duty? Isn’t it only under republican administrations that dissent is treason?
Voulez vous coucher avec moi ?
governments who don’t think their citizens have a right to privacy probably shouldn’t be throwing privacy coloured rocks from the inside of their glass house
Quoted For Speaking Truth To Power Gone Stupid.
The immediate & unofficial response of the modern elite to these sorts of thorny problems is both predictable & boffo.
“Don’t shoot until you see the whites of their wallets, lads!”
Speaking of ironic self reference.
Tintin said,
November 29, 2010 at 19:09
Whether true or not, Sadly, No! …
Oh, so that’s what that “Gitchi Gitchi Ya Ya” part means. Good to know.
Wait, I thought the consensus on the right was that, as long as there’s a black man in office, throwing(?) spitballs at him and his collaborators was a patriotic duty? Isn’t it only under republican administrations that dissent is treason?
Broheim, there’s about to be a Republican House of Representatives. So we gotta unlearn the spitball-throwing behavior, quick, before we start disrespecting the wrong people.
Voulez vous coucher avec moi ?
Yep. I remember an amusing online discussion about that phrase around the time Pink et al did their cover for Moulin Rouge. The one poster thought it a nonsense statement, since “vous” either means (roughly) “all y’all” or “you singular person whom I do not know very well”. Thus it sounded to her like a sentence nobody would ever actually say.
However, the poster was in error, since “vous” also means “you singular person who are higher ranking in society than I am“, and is thus a perfectly appropriate thing for the putative hooker singing the song to say to her client. I also believe (though this might be apocryphal) that this sentence was given to American GIs in their book of useful French phrases to use in the summer of 1944, so “singular person whom I do not know” was the intended recipient. La langue de l’amour in truth.
Voulez vous coucher avec moi ?
Yes, but you have to kick your husband out first.
By now, every American should also be able to say “Would you like to sleep with me tonight?”, even if you have to do it in song.
How’s about “Yew shore gotta purty mouth, it’s a burnin ‘ring a far, a ring a far.” Should go over well at locku..um, home.
Yep. I remember an amusing online discussion about that phrase around the time Pink et al did their cover for Moulin Rouge. The one poster thought it a nonsense statement, since “vous” either means (roughly) “all y’all” or “you singular person whom I do not know very well”. Thus it sounded to her like a sentence nobody would ever actually say.
On a related note, it continually messes with my head that the English language doesn’t distinguish between singular and plural versions of “you.” Hence why I’ll often use the word “y’all” or “yinz” in conversation despite not being from the South or Pittsburgh.
LC somehow puts a sophisticated spin on a discussion about hookers propositioning johns.
However, the poster was in error, since “vous” also means “you singular person who are higher ranking in society than I am”
In French, well, at least the French they teach you in school, you ALWAYS address in the second person plural until you are given permission (usually when the conversant says “Appelez-moi Phillipe” or whatever his or her first name is, THEN you can use “tu”.
In other words, the poster was not only in error, she was fucking wrong in her basic French grammar.
On a related note, it continually messes with my head that the English language doesn’t distinguish between singular and plural versions of “you.”
What’s wrong with “youse”?????
On a related note, it continually messes with my head that the English language doesn’t distinguish between singular and plural versions of “you.” Hence why I’ll often use the word “y’all” or “yinz” in conversation despite not being from the South or Pittsburgh.
I remember some Quebecois purist ranting in the newspaper about the damned kids who wouldn’t stay off his lawn and called everybody (even-Harumph-their betters!) “tu”. This was clearly the fault of the maudits anglais, polluting francophone culture with their single pronoun language.
The next day, of course, there were many letters to the editor pointing out that the maudits anglais have been actually calling everybody “vous” ever since we dropped “thee” and “thou” sometime between Shakespeare and Austen.
GNOME
In defense of the headline writers at Commentary, what passes for journalism these days can certainly be described as having no shame.
What’s wrong with “youse”?????
It’s missing the “guys”, as in “youse guys.”
On a related note, it continually messes with my head that the English language doesn’t distinguish between singular and plural versions of “you.”
y’all = singular
all y’all = plural
ever since we dropped “thee” and “thou” sometime between Shakespeare and Austen.
Apparently, you’ve never met the Amish. Or T’Pau
Appelez-moi…
I dunno where you get’s your French, but AFAIK Le Ishmael does it to himself reflexively – i.e. Je m’appele Ishmael.
I’ve always been partial to “you’ins,” myself.
Or T’Pau
Well, there you have it. Chris programmed the Universal Translator.
fucking automatic dishwashers…..how do they work?
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vs,
….clone Tilda Swinton about 50 times and have her play all the parts.
I can’t believe everyone left that alone……
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…..working hand in glove with a sleazy website, feel free to throw spitballs at those who make policy and those who execute it. is us?
the West’s major news organizations, working hand in glove with a sleazy website,
Yet when what Atrios charmingly refers to as the pukefunnel produces some outrage for the Beckists, it’s a Deep and Profound Troof That Must Be Covered.
y’all = singular
all y’all = plural
That’s not what Lewis Grizzard said. According to him, y’all is properly used only as a plural.
Grizzard may have been an ass and an apologist for Southern racism, but he knew his Southern dialect.
Please note: 41 is taking “live” questions on Facebook in t-minus 12 minutes and counting.
“Parlez-toi Francais, jim?”
Tristement, non!
I think my hated co-worker was drunk? She had to be driven home a couple of hours ago because she couldn’t talk and kept falling over.
Hopefully she doesn’t die. I might feel bad for making fun of her.
That’s not what Lewis Grizzard said. According to him, y’all is properly used only as a plural.
Speaking from deep in the heart of Dixie, this is correct.
And if we’re still casting I want Johnny Thunders to play me. I bet he even looks better dead than alive.
Apparently, you’ve never met the Amish.
I knew ‘more than a few Amish in central PA and I’ve never been thee’d or thou’d. They siezen and duzen among themselves of course but with the Englisher’s it’s always “you.”
As long as I’m on the subject, there’s an interesting “revolt” going on among them. The Pennsylvania Dutch they now speak has become nearly unintelligble to a German speaker. More importanly, it seems that few of them can read the Hochdeutsch in which all their scripture and historical churchy documents are recorded. A number of them are accusing their bishops of just making up doctrine as they wish. “We don’t know what the books say, we only know what they _tell us_ it says. And they can’t read it either!”
I’ll find and provide a link if anyone asks.
Also Fick Dich WP
working hand in glove with a sleazy website
The Journalism That Dare Not Speak Its Name.
hawt
Isn’t it presumptuous to assume that readers of the New York Times have no right to know what is being done in their name by the editors of the New York Times?
Max Boot, Part Deux. Click on his name to go for more fun.
I suppose vous pouvez m’appeler Al is kinda French (i.e. not the obvious result of translation software) since vous pouvez m’appeler au [phone number redacted] is okay (but not quite j’en suis [your mom’s phone number redacted]).
Remember: Y’all is singular. All y’all is plural. All y’all’s is plural possessive.
-Kinky Friedman
And also too, in that case what does “all y’all” mean? And I suppose all y’all are expectin’ me to believe that Soutt’ners actually say “you come back, ya hear.”
I dunno where you get’s your French
I’m assuming Phillipe, like moi, has been addressing in formal French.
But then I learned Yurpeen French, not that crap you Canadians call “French” in the vain hopes that, like your mother, it would give it some class.
Remember: Y’all is singular. All y’all is plural. All y’all’s is plural possessive.
Where I live, opinion seems divided between “youse” and “you guys”, which sometimes leads to the lovely “you guys’s” when the possessive is required. I am prepared to wash out my son’s mouth with soap if he should ever utter that last.
As long as I’m on the subject, there’s an interesting “revolt” going on among them. The Pennsylvania Dutch they now speak has become nearly unintelligble to a German speaker. More importanly, it seems that few of them can read the Hochdeutsch in which all their scripture and historical churchy documents are recorded. A number of them are accusing their bishops of just making up doctrine as they wish. “We don’t know what the books say, we only know what they _tell us_ it says. And they can’t read it either!”
Fucking linguistic drift, how does it work?
Ahem. Sorry about that. That is a genuinely interesting thing you just told me, and I appreciate having learned it. Sciense iz kool.
…These are, after all, the sorts of people who, over a few drinks, would no doubt tell you that diplomacy is far preferable to war-making….
I hate to defend the staff at the NYT but, yes, he’s right, the people I know who work at the NYT, despite their other failings, do think that consensual sex is preferable to rape, that paying for drinks at a bar is better than shooting the bar tender, and ignoring Boot is better than seeing if he fits in a trash compactor. Most of NYT people I’ve known seem basically human outside of the office and/or after a few drinks.
Or T’Pau
Give a little bit of heart and soul
And dost thou maketh me beg for love?
that crap you Canadians call “French” in the vain hopes that, like your mother, it would give it some class.
Oh, it’s French. Seventeenth century French, as spoken by a gang of desperate peasants and exiled cutthroats, maybe, but French, nonetheless. Well, Montrealais is French, anyway. The language they speak in rural Quebec might actually be Romulan, for all I can make sense of it.
ignoring Boot is better than seeing if he fits in a trash compactor
I’m sorry, but that really ought to be the main attraction for going into that god-awful abomination of a building every morning.
You siisified weiners. Why cantcha speak good old American like the rest of us? Nooooo, you have speak your fancy Canadian or Belgian or whatever.
The language they speak in rural Quebec might actually be Romulan, for all I can make sense of it.
Damn illegal aliens…
I’m sorry, but that really ought to be the main attraction for going into that god-awful abomination of a building every morning.
Except you could only do it once.
Except you could only do it once.
He might escape. Better to be safe than sorry.
But then I learned Yurpeen French, not that crap you Canadians call “French”
You mean Metropolitan French? Odd probably-not-true factoid – since Quebecois French evolved from 17th centruy Parisienne koine through a much smaller pool of speakers, it is actually closer than Yurpeen French is to the “classy” French that was historically the dominant language of diplomacy.
Besides it’s not like on dit joual.
That’s what DK-W’s mom said.
(I can’t believe no one commented on that yet.)
Americans should be proud that yet another contributor to Commentary is Peter Wehner.
I smell schism.
This is how the Reformation – the original Martin Luther – Protestants – Amish – all started. When the people wanted to know what the book actually said.
Schisms are fun.
Damn you intronettertubes!!! Here I thought on dit joual was new. It’s fucking birlliant wordplay it is right there. WTH, I’m pretending like it’s a Wangchuck Original anyways.
The only french I know comes from the Quebec liscence plates that start showing up here in Florida about this time of year:
je me souviens
I believe it means “give me souvenirs.”
Shit. Sorry. Sadly, 41 is “live” on Phacebok at 2pm PST.
Yeah, well the only French I know is …. nevermind. It’s all Greek to me anyway.
Here I thought on dit joual was new.
Yea, cuz no one ever had to make up a word for “slang” in French before…
I smell schism
Uuuuuuhhh…nah.
Where I live, opinion seems divided between “youse” and “you guys”, which sometimes leads to the lovely “you guys’s”
I believe that is “youse guyses.”
On a related note, it continually messes with my head that the English language doesn’t distinguish between singular and plural versions of “you.” Hence why I’ll often use the word “y’all” or “yinz” in conversation despite not being from the South or Pittsburgh.
As a southern Ohio native I think “you all” (two separate words) works just fine as a plural…
Yea, cuz no one ever had to make up a word for “slang” in French before…
Uh, maybe teh funneh gets lost in translation. It’s the juxtaposition of the proper and impersonal on dit with the gutter-word joual. Sorta like how voulez-vous couchez avec moi is all classy and whatnot so you gets to teh funneh with voulez-vous fucking.
Growing up in Akron, OH (the actual capital of West Virginia)- the proper Wessajinny is ‘yinz’. In formal Pittsburghese, Pittsburghian, or Pittsburgher (your choice), the term is ‘yunz’. ‘Y’all’ is singular, ‘all y’all’ is plural, knowledge gleaned from my extensive travels and residency in the South.
In defense of English, we may not have an official word for plural “you”, but at least we don’t have to worry about masculine and feminine gender for inanimate objects. For example, the French say (I think) “le livre” (masculine gender) for “the book”, and “la table” (feminine gender) for “the table”. Not only does giving inanimate objects a gender make no sense, but the assignment of masculine and feminine to particular objects is completely arbitrary. (Why is a book masculine and a table feminine?) German has the same problem; as Mark Twain wrote: “In German a lady has no sex, but a turnip has.” So score one for English, at least.
Y’all can be singular, but it can also mean anyone within earshot, whereas all y’all is deliberately plural and inclusive. It’s also just fun to say, like an itty bitty roller coaster for your mouf.
Good point about the pieces parts of things getting all sexied up by yourpeein languages, like German
I missed my cue, but then I was always about the grand entrance.
VDKWMomR?
“Je Me Souviens” literally translates to “I remember”, specifically “I remember how you horrible English-speaking Canadians oppressed and conquered my distant ancestors and don’t think for ONE MINUTE I’m ever going to get over it!”
Is there an award for grudge-bearing, passive-agressive license plate mottoes?
(Dr.) Angela Merkel, where’s your sense of creativity?
Why’d you waste your time on quantum chemistry?
Now you’re famous for being a chancellor
When you could have been a belly dancer.
They say you have a spy in your government,
Whose leaks might cause you embarrassment.
Oh Angela, tell them what you really think,
The Americans always cause a terrible stink.
I am from the Deep South. Y’all is plural. You is singular. People who say y’all to a single person is either from Hollywood or New York or Mars (the planet).
Kinky likes to exaggerate for effect. He knows y’all is plural but the progression is funnier than the truth. My main problem with the “Kinky for Governor” movement…Kinky does not let truth (or much of anything else) get in the way of a punchline. And also he’s just another dumb contrarian, bless his heart.
I’ve convinced a few people that “au bon pain” means “so good it hurts”.
Is there an award for grudge-bearing, passive-agressive license plate mottoes?
Sorry, it takes a backseat to “Live Free Or Die”.
Sorry, it takes a backseat to “Live Free Or Die”.
American exceptionalism and all that. Look, when it comes to passive-aggresiveness, you don’t want to compete with Canada, and even we AngloCanucooks don’t want to compete with Les Quebecois.
In La Belle Province, they celebrate St-Jean-Baptiste day the week before Canada Day. This was a rallying day for separatists to use both language and religion to rile up the troops. There was some unpleasantness in the 60’s culminating in the unfortunate incident with James Cross and Pierre Laporte in Oct 1970 – that’s the group of Quebeckers that were allupons about June 24.
But Canada Day is a national statutory holiday and everyone gets it off. So how does one ensure that Quebec’s National Holiday (no joke, it’s noe called Fête Nationale) maintains cultural precedence over Canada Day? Legally mandating that leases end June 30.
Incidentally, if Je Me Souviens correctly, the big Fête Nationale celebrations take place on the Plains of Abraham.