Why Does Erick Erickson Hate America?

“Can you hear them running for shelter?”


Erick Erickson, who once twittered that retired Justice Souter was a “goat fucking child molester,” has been trolling Nancy Pelosi’s Twitter feed looking for dirt for a blog post on the Speaker, which is pretty much like Charles Manson doing a criminal record search on Sharon Tate.

And this is what the old Frito-breathed pud-yanker has come up with:

On July 4th the Speaker of the United States House of Representatives . . . oh, you’ve figured it out. Nancy Pelosi didn’t do a darn thing on Twitter for the 4th of July — no “Happy Birthday America” or “God/Allah/Aqua Buddha bless the USA” or anything else.

In his slobbering haste to accuse Pelosi of being an America-hating, terrorist-loving, Marx-worshipping, homosexual-loving traitress, it doesn’t occur to Erickson to take a gander at his own Twitter feed on July 4 to make sure that he had himself put on his flag lapel pin, put his hand on his heart, sung “Happy Birthday America” and otherwise polished his own America-loving patriotic credentials.

So, was there a heart-warming patriotic pageant on display on Erickson’s July 4th Twitter feed? Sadly, No!

However, it was enlightening to learn that Erickson was “smoking a Boston Butt on his green egg” on the evening before July 4. Sometime I really just don’t know how I survived before Twitter. But I give you my word, you will never hear me talking about smoking butt on my Twitter feed, and, if I you do, well, just press the unfollow button and get on with your life.

 

Comments: 362

 
 
 

smoking a Boston Butt on his green egg

I think we all learned something about ourselves that night.

 
 

Erickkk Erickkkson is a goat fucking, child molesting 4th of July hater.

 
 

“Squish buddies”??

 
 

Always on the rag, these wing-nut men. Catty, catty bitches.

 
Enraged Bull Limpet
 

As an oldish late adopter of these here tubular thingies, I draw the line at “twitter feeds.”

Got a good supply of smokin’ wood laid in, but Boston butt still ain’t on the menu no matter what what Sam I Am says.

 
 

Limpet, Twits are no stupider than anything else on the Internment-net. Just another bookmark, really.

And Boston Butt. You can take the hick out of the cracker, but you can’t take the peckerwood out of the good ol’ boy. Day-um.

 
Enraged Bull Limpet
 

Twits are no stupider than anything else on the Internment-net.

Maybe, but they’re reportedly even more prolific than the old-school ‘net stupidity. I’m just worried about contagion from exponentially more repeated exposures.

 
 

They. Got. Nuthin’.

 
 

On July 4th the Speaker of the United States House of Representatives . . . oh, you’ve figured it out. Nancy Pelosi didn’t do a darn thing on Twitter for the 4th of July — no “Happy Birthday America”

America’s feeling being hurt, it stamped its feet, ran out of the room in tears, went upstairs to its room, slammed the door behind it, called its BFF Saudi Arabia and upon getting no response burst into tears, and then spent the rest of the night playing with its Florida.

 
 

Hey, what do you expect from a ‘true’ patriot? And at the universal central of twits?

We saw a ‘true’ patriot in a van comming back from Valparaiso to Chicago today on hiway 6. My nephew commented that having a flag flailing 50 mph from the back of teh van was as disrespectful a way to display a flag as burning or spitting.

Pulled up close enough to see the dash board covered with smaller flags, perhaps eight or more.

BTW, Valpariso has a restaraunt with a most excellent variety on the menue, called ‘The Broadway.’

One of the many noteworthy items onthe menue was “butt steak.” I had the beer battered polock, soup salad, twice baked potato. The leftover fish and rolls will be tomorrow’s lunch at the art institute.

 
 

Long drive, Chile to Illinois.

 
 

Long drive, Chile to Illinois.

Mind the gap.

 
 

Well, in Irky’s defense:
1. He is not (thank the IPU in all her garish unseeability) Speaker of the House. I am a strong proponent of the idea that even moranic goat fucking child molesters like Irksome be allowed to criticise government. That’s where a lotta my LULZ come from.
2. His actual argument is more than just Pelosi didn’t wish ‘Murka a happy birthday. He also points out that Pelosi tweeted a Happy Ramadan for traitorous anti-American Mooslems. Because she’s a terrarist.

BUT – even giving Irky all of this consideration, he’s still RNOWG. d00d is so full of Cheetos and FAIL that his hypocritical zing has no zing. While it is true that Pelosi wished a Happy Birthday to the Dalai Lama just two days after ID 2010 – that is the very first time she used that twitter feed for birthday wishes. IOW his complaint that she could be bothered to acknowledge Sing Tao and Ramadan and the Dalai Lama but not the Fourth of July is irrelevant because on the Fourth of July, she wasn’t using Twitter for that purpose at all. Granted she did acknowledge the anniversaries of some major pieces of legislation before the Fourth – although that does seem like an appropriate use of the Twitter feed of the head of the House of Representatives.

His complaint that she didn’t use Twitter to say Happy Fourth of July at a time when she wasn’t using Twitter to acknowledge any of those celebrations – even though she said Happy Ramadan later – is kinda like complaining that you can’t get Chicken McNuggets at the drivethrough window at 6:30 in the morning.

TL;DR version: Shorter Irksome.

 
 

The Constitution clearly requires the Speaker of the House to acknowledge the 4th of July on her twitter feed. This outrage cannot be allowed to stand.

 
 

give Erik a break. he did say it was only his 1st time smoking butt.

The “green egg”. — some kind of sex toy? I bet I could borrow –I bet Jonah has one.

Some things are private, and should not be twittered.

 
 

@DKW. I didn’t have the time or the patience to slog through all 60 billion of Erickson’s tweets (the fucker tweets whenever he opens a snack food bag or drives past the Stop-n-Go which is, apparently, a lot) to see what other dates or events he might have commemorated but . . . suffice it to say that he can take the time to tweet in celebration of his own vacation on July 4 without even mentioning, as the Constitution and the Bible require, that it was America’s Birthday.

 
The Tragically Flip
 

Look who else didn’t bow to Mecca on July 4th via Twitter

 
The Tragically Flip
 

This sort of crap is why congress spends so much time passing meaningless symbolic resolutions of support for national flower month, and stomach ulcer awareness week and the 100th anniversary of “snakes and ladders” and all this useless dreck that people like Erick von Erick complain about at other times. So shitheels like him can’t say they didn’t pay any attention to some formal and symbolic thing.

 
 

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-real-anchors/

A PJTVer demands Heinlein’s citizenship requirement be adapted to the United States, which he claims are “more in line with the Founding Fathers’ view.”

 
 

I believe he actually *twice* twittered the “goat fucking child molester” thing.

 
 

“I will smoke them” said the putz
“On my Green Egg – the Boston Butts”

Worst Dr. Seuss book ever.

 
 

smoking a Boston Butt on his green egg

That should really be some sort of new catchphrase or tag for Urk Urkson.

 
 

God, this reminds me of those stupid “paste this in your status or you hate the troops, or God, or Santa, etc.” things on Facebook. Since I always ignore them then I obviously hate everything.

 
 

Alright, you arugula-eatin’ elitist hippie-types. The Green Egg is a fairly popular and well-known backyard smoker, and a boston butt makes for great pulled pork.

Erickson’s still a giant douche, though.

 
 

Ye Bigge Greene Egge.

Smoking “Boston Butt” because he’s a lazy bigot (baby back ribs would be better tasting but too Negro).

Does he know the thing is Japanese-influenced? Will he break it if he finds out?

 
EE's Credibility
 

With my last breath I stab at thee!!

 
 

Next time you write about Erickson, can you please have a better picture of Erickson, and by that I mean one in which Erickson does not appear.

 
Blinking Emoticon
 

Limpet, Twits are no stupider than anything else on the Internment-net.

Moar research is needed, but(t) it’s believed that the unchecked proliferation of moranic tweets is forming a kind of plaque on the inner walls of these here tubes and will soon cause an epidemic of burst inter-arteries.

 
 

Oh dear…Maybe a letter to the CNN ombudsman is in order, TinTin. After all, when he (as he inevitably does) echoes his gross stupidity on CNN, CNN might be liable for all kinds of contumely and legal consequences, whereas GreenButt will walk away scotfree.

 
 

As an oldish late adopter of these here tubular thingies, I draw the line at “twitter feeds.”

Tweets are for twits

(also makes a great catch phrase for a kids’ cereal)

 
 

The Green Egg is a fairly popular and well-known backyard smoker

I’ve been trying to get him to switch to herbal cigarettes, but the fuckhead won’t listen.

 
Disgruntled Lurker
 

Does he know the thing is Japanese-influenced? Will he break it if he finds out?

My grandfather was stationed in Japan after WWII ended. He somehow managed to get a giant black egg-shaped smoker back to the States with him when he left. That thing was a magical. Finally cracked after about 40 years of use.

 
Disgruntled Lurker
 

Smoking “Boston Butt” because he’s a lazy bigot (baby back ribs would be better tasting but too Negro).

You must be kidding. Pork shoulder is where it is at when it comes to pork BBQ.

Ribs aren’t bad, but you’ve got a low meat-to-bone ratio, which greatly reduces the bang for your buck.

Also, I don’t know any “Negros” that eat baby back ribs. They eat spare ribs. Where I’m from, baby back ribs is something that Chilis restraunt serves.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

“you will never hear me talking about smoking butt on my Twitter feed, and, if I you do, well, just press the unfollow button and get on with your life.”

I will forewarn you that sometimes I talk about food on Twitter. Feel free to unfollow *me*.

You must be kidding. Pork shoulder is where it is at when it comes to pork BBQ.

Iiiiiindeeeed.

I don’t know any “Negros” that eat baby back ribs. They eat spare ribs. Where I’m from, baby back ribs is something that Chilis restraunt serves.

Yeah, baby back ribs are fucking expensive and you don’t get much meat for all the money you spend. I don’t know a lot of people in general who eat them.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Ribs aren’t bad, but you’ve got a low meat-to-bone ratio, which greatly reduces the bang for your buck.

Or, you know, kinda what you said.

 
 

Pork spare ribs are the best.

The more important question is whether Ewick properly worships the Aqua buddha. I bet he skips the requisite bong hits before soaking his head in the toilet. (he’s too lazy to go down to the river and do it right)

 
Lurking Canadian
 

Stay classy, Glenn Reynolds.

Shorter T&U’s link: I haven’t made a good Vince Foster joke in minutes.

 
Disgruntled Lurker
 

Yeah, baby back ribs are fucking expensive and you don’t get much meat for all the money you spend. I don’t know a lot of people in general who eat them.

I was never a big fan of ribs until I ate at Rendezvous in Memphis. It was a life changing experience.

 
 

Aw, I have a green egg. Way to ruin it for me. Irksome.

Smoking “Boston Butt” because he’s a lazy bigot (baby back ribs would be better tasting but too Negro).

Pulled pork is wonderful, multiracial eats.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

I was never a big fan of ribs until I ate at Rendezvous in Memphis. It was a life changing experience.

I ate there a couple of years ago. It was good (for Tennessee barbecue).

Ribs kind of gross me out. I prefer to pull out all the bones and eat them that way. Of course, they have to be very, very good ribs to do that.

 
 

Also, maybe Pelosi didn’t tweet on the 4th because she was actually CELEBRATING the 4th instead of posting mindless crap no-fucking-body cares about.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 
 

Of all the S,N photoshops jobs, the Trike Force one is my favorite. It never fails to make me smile.

 
 

Nancy Pelosi didn’t do a darn thing on Twitter for the 4th of July

Oh my God! Impeach her!

 
 

Can I really be the first person to make a “green egg and spam” comment?

 
 

My grandfather was stationed in Japan after WWII ended. He somehow managed to get a giant black egg-shaped smoker back to the States with him when he left. That thing was a magical. Finally cracked after about 40 years of use.

My dad bought one of those in the ’60s, I don’t know where he got it, but it was Japanese. His was actually green clay. You’re right, it made amazing smoked chicken and other meats. When my folks moved house in the ’80s, it cracked on the way to the truck. That was the end of it.

 
 

“smoking a Boston Butt on his green egg”

I knew all of these conservatards were fucking perverts, but that sounds disgusting and possibly dangerous. I think it is also illegal everywhere south of the Mason-Dixon line.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

So, I guess nobody followed my link…I see how it is…

 
The Goddamn Batman Often Barbecues In The Summer; The Whole Batfamily Shows Up, And We Don't Use No Sissy Citronella Candles, Neither, Because The Robins Nail The Skeeters With Their Batarangs*
 

It may be more appropriate to cook a pork shoulder in a Green Egg because of its relatively limited size; yeah, they’re cute and all, but if you are really goddamn serious about your ‘cue (and if you ain’t, GTFO), you need a cooker made out of a fifty-five gallon drum. Then you can have your shoulder and your ribs, see, and maybe even some brisket for you Texas and KC heathens. And, for the record, pulled pork shoulder rules and chopped drools–chopped is what second-rate BBQ restaurants use to disguise inferior meat and indifferent cooking.

Oh, and with regard to the asshat: his Tweetphotos also include this. What, indeed.

*Because real bats eat bugs, see; very apropos.

 
The Goddamn Batman Tries Again
 

Eh, copy and paste:

http://tweetphoto.com/32840880

 
Disgruntled Lurker
 

So, I guess nobody followed my link…I see how it is…

The brain bleach comment might have something to do with that. Kind of like screaming “OH MY GOD THATS DISGUSTING” and then turning to the person next to you and saying “Hey, taste this.”

 
 

I will forewarn you that sometimes I talk about food on Twitter. Feel free to unfollow *me*.

What? And miss out on that fine butt?

 
 

Fuuuuuuuuuuuck, and me all out of Brain Bleach…

I should point out that I predicted Snooki was McCain’s girlfriend last month at my blog.

Self high 5.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

The brain bleach comment might have something to do with that. Kind of like screaming “OH MY GOD THATS DISGUSTING” and then turning to the person next to you and saying “Hey, taste this.”

See, I always fall for that. How do you think actor got me to look at his etchings so many times?

 
 

Help us Goddamn Batman! Terrorist babies are overwhel—

 
 

How do you think actor got me to look at his etchings so many times?

The promise of smoked pork butt, I thought.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

The promise of smoked pork butt, I thought.

That’s definitely effective, too.

 
 

That’s definitely effective, too.

I’ve got a Green Egg.

 
 

I gather that in 30 years, Snooki’s face will look like McCain’s. Sun does that to you.

 
 

GodDamn Batman,
That picture is particularly odious coming from a man who seriously considered firing all of the police in his town. Not only has that craven lickspittle not done a damn thing to defend anyone’s freedom but his own, he has made a career out of fighting those that are working to protect and expand freedom for everyone everywhere.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Oh, and with regard to the asshat: his Tweetphotos also include this. What, indeed.

WTfuckingF? The last time Erickson was lying face-down on the ground, it was because he told a fifth-grade girl that she was a hairy-legged feminist for wanting to be president when she grew up. (He was 23 at the time).

 
 

I gather that in 30 years, Snooki’s face will look like McCain’s. Sun does that to you.

More like ten.

 
 

actor212 said,

I’ve got a Green Egg.

You should loosen your shorts.

 
 

I’ve got a Green Egg.

You should loosen your shorts.

What do leftover Easter Eggs have to do with my balls?

RHETORICAL QUESTION!

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

More like ten.

I think she already looks older than I do, and she’s 7-8 years younger than I am.

That could also be the horrible makeup, though.

 
 

That could also be the horrible makeup, though.

Or the Oompa-Loompa portion of her heritage.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Or the Oompa-Loompa portion of her heritage.

True. I am also over a foot taller than she is, too.

 
 

True. I am also over a foot taller than she is, too.

And have nicer boobs.

Or so I’ve heard. Why don’t you show them to us?

 
 

Now that gays can marry in CA, anti Oompa-Loompa prejudice is the last acceptble prejudice left.

Except for zombies, but those fuckers deserve it.

 
Lurking Canadian
 

Well, if pregnant Oompa-Loompas would stop coming to America to drop their children, there wouldn’t be a problem.

 
 

Oompa-Loompa prejudice is the last acceptble prejudice left.

Maybe if they didn’t work with chocolate. Maybe they should move onto confectioner’s sugar.

 
 

Well, if pregnant Oompa-Loompas would stop coming to America to drop their children

Fucking anchor chocolates.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

How do they work?

 
 

@Lurker: Rendezvous was pretty good. Toobad it’s in Memphis.

 
 

Smushily.

That was a better comment in the original Swedish.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Toobad it’s in Memphis.

Yeah, Memphis…sucks…to say the least.

 
 

That could also be the horrible makeup, though.

Don’t you have to remind T&U to vote or something?

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Don’t you have to remind T&U to vote or something?

You know, if I could remind myself to vote, I wouldn’t have asked you people to.

 
 

I’m smoking a Boston Butt on my big green egg tonight

What kind of abnormality would lead you to call it your “Big Green Egg”? At the very least it sounds like someone needs to teach him some basic hygiene.

No-dibs. Also.

 
 

Don’t you have to remind T&U to vote or something?

You know, if I could remind myself to vote, I wouldn’t have asked you people to.

And my comment is what happens when you don;t copy the new thing you want to quote and therefore paste the thing you copied the comment before.

 
 

“hot chicks with douchebags colostomy bags”

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

And my comment is what happens when you don;t copy the new thing you want to quote and therefore paste the thing you copied the comment before.

I suspected that was the case, though I did wonder if you were just losing your mind.

 
 

“hot chicks with douchebags colostomy bags”

A website on where to find matching shoes?

 
 

I suspected that was the case, though I did wonder if you were just losing your mind.

I’m writing a report. Be happy the italicized text wasn’t The front building is typical of private house construction in Brooklyn in the first half of the nineteenth century: it consists of wood framing with wood clapboard sheathing, resting on unreinforced masonry foundation walls.

 
 

The front building is typical of private house construction in Brooklyn in the first half of the nineteenth century: it consists of wood framing with wood clapboard sheathing, resting on unreinforced masonry foundation walls.

What is the opening line to the 2010 Buller-Lytton contest winner?

I’ll take bad literature for $1,000, Alex.

 
 

I’m writing a report.

Need help numbering pages? I found an old Sumerian alphabet works miracles.

 
 

What is the opening line to the 2010 Buller-Lytton contest winner?

I can do better than that:

One hand resting on the stack of erection drawings, the other hand readjusting his round-lens Pei-like glasses, sweat dripping masculinely down his forehead, under his arms, and betwixt his nethers, Howard Roark, Jr. looked at the steel contractor and bellowed “What do you mean ‘you don’t understand the dimensions’?”

 
Pupienus Maximus
 

Hey, it’s not like he blogbitched about a limited comments policy at another site when writing at a site that does not allow comments.

Wait, you’re right – it’s exactly like that.

 
 

Need help numbering pages?

No, actually. Format>Page>Footer…

 
 

One hand resting on the stack of erection drawings, the other hand readjusting his round-lens Pei-like glasses, sweat dripping masculinely down his forehead, under his arms, and betwixt his nethers, Howard Roark, Jr. looked at the steel contractor and bellowed “What do you mean ‘you don’t understand the dimensions’?”

*tearing up first four chapters of new novel*

Fuck. I must have a virus.

 
 

D.K. Wangchuk pens:

d00d is so full of Cheetos and FAIL

This has made my day, and it’s barely 8:30 a.m. PDT.

 
 

It’s a slow day. I think we can Bulwer-Lytton the thread…

 
 

I think we can Bulwer-Lytton the thread…

I claim any and all of Irky’s Tweets

 
 

One hand resting on the stack of erection drawings, the other hand readjusting his round-lens Pei-like glasses, sweat dripping masculinely down his forehead, under his arms, and betwixt his nethers, Howard Roark, Jr. looked at the steel contractor and bellowed “What do you mean ‘you don’t understand the dimensions’?”
Needs moar ninja.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

I claim any and all of Irky’s Tweets

Here’s his latest: Why do old men wear brown socks half way up to their knees when they wear shorts? Do their wives not love them?

This one’s good, too: Why does she have to start kindergarten?! Who’s going to play kickball w/ me this morning at 11 in the backyard?! Sigh. It’s what we do.

 
 

Who’s going to play kickball w/ me this morning at 11 in the backyard?!

I guess his girlfriend broke up with him.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

“I may have to go get one of those meatball pizzas as Cypress Pint & Plate tonight after TV.”

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Seriously, at least a quarter of his tweets are about food or how hungry he is. You could probably say the same thing about me, but I don’t work for fucking CNN.

 
 

Needs moar ninja.

Crying “another additional work payment req? Eeeeeeeee-yah!” Howard Roark, Jr., leapt up from the plastic conference room table in the construction manager’s Scotsman trailer – which, despite smelling faintly of urine and stale farts, contained many of the comforts of home, including a refrigerator, stove top, and internet pornography – knocking over the matching plastic chair as his feet cleared the table edge, simultaneously with his right hand drawing his sword from the interior of a disguising roll of drawings.

 
 

knocking over the matching plastic chair as his feet cleared the table edge, simultaneously with his right hand drawing his sword from the interior of a disguising roll of drawings.

And screaming, “There can be only ONNNNNNNNNNNNNNE!”

 
Pupienus Maximus
 

“The front building is typical of private house construction in Brooklyn in the first half of the nineteenth century: it consists of wood framing with wood clapboard sheathing, resting on unreinforced masonry foundation walls.”

Last house I owned was built in 1864. Though not located in Brooklyn it fit that description. Balloon frame, double sheathed, mortared rubble. Andthe original fucking metal roof! The place hadn’t been updated since the 20’s. Fun. Though iwas very proud of the flitch plate and microlam beam I made to enable removing a structural wall to make a huge kitchen/ family/ dining area. Yes, I did the engineering myself (over engineered it actually) and no, in that location I didn’t worry about no fucking inspectors.

/rambling OT blather

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Re: his kickball-player: ” C/n believe she starts kindergarten next week. And tells ppl she’s going to pvt school b/c gov’t ones waste $.”

 
 

I think we can Bulwer-Lytton the thread…

He pulled his face out of his slop bowl long enough to let a fragment of carbonized pork butt slide down his chin and onto his lap. He happily reached for the morsel, shifting his weight to position it within his line of sight. “Have to get to the gym,” he thought. “Maybe tomorrow.” The shifting of his weight made the contents of his Dependz move, the stinging was worse, but not surprising, as it had been three days since he changed it. And a shower might be a good idea as well. “Maybe tomorrow,” he thought, “at the gym.”

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Dammit, I don’t follow this asshole for a reason…but…”The 4 yo has a massive Hannity crush. John King does not do it for her I’m afraid. Sean’s book is on her bookshelf.”???!!

 
 

Though not located in Brooklyn it fit that description.

This one is pre-balloon-framing. Probably late 1810s or early 20s, but I don’t want to make an unsupported specific statement like that in a report going to a city agency. Hand-cut mortises and tenons…

 
 

My favorite B-L of all time: “His eyes slid down the front of her dress.”

 
 

And Looch wins for most disgusting.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

And Looch wins for most disgusting.

Yeah, um, thanks for that, dude.

 
 

Yay!

Wait…

Wha?

 
 

I think we can Bulwer-Lytton the thread…

As Ron Costello saw it, the nighttime media party in Edgartown provided him with a wide-open window of opportunity– one he could make the most of. For he was frustrated and fed up, and what he badly needed was to satisfy a basic human need, the need for some kind of physical release.

 
 

Nuh-uh. Actor wins that category. Shorter, and leaving the disgusting bits to one’s imagination. Much worse.

 
 

So, I guess nobody followed my link…I see how it is…

Who’s Snooki?

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Who’s Snooki?

I used to be able to say the same thing. *sigh*

 
 

*sigh*

I think you need to release tension in the form of a Bulwer-Lytton entry, tightly written, compulsively stroked into shape, and sprayed over S, N!

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

I think you need to release tension in the form of a Bulwer-Lytton entry, tightly written, compulsively stroked into shape, and sprayed over S, N!

1. Gross.

2. I’m thinking about it.

 
 

1. Gross.

[Homer] The human wang is a beautiful thing. [/Homer]

 
 

“I think we can Bulwer-Lytton the thread…”

Must have a Texas version:

The virile governor knew this time would come. He had prepared for it all of his life; from his hardscrabble youth, where his daddy had taught him the most basic survival skills; to his dealings with Saudi princes and Chinese communists. He knew he would be tested. And, by golly, when he came upon that varmint on his jogging path, he knew just what to do. He killed that coyote with one shot, just as he would have killed those terrorists on those airplanes, if only the danged Feds would let him pack heat.

 
 

I can’t help but notice that pork butts seem to be the theme this morning.

Both here and abroad.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

[Homer] The human wang is a beautiful thing. [/Homer]

Is that from The Iliad?

 
 

[The Other Homer] The human wang, when nestled between two comely and shapely thighs, is a beautiful thing. [The Other Homer]

 
 

I think we can Bulwer-Lytton the thread…

The shadows of twilight deepend across the orchards and wheat fields of Cumberland Valley. The day had been hot, the air heavy with damp heat; now the first stirrings of a cool breeze came down out of the hills. Fireflies danced through the branches of apple, peach, and cherry trees; crickets sang; and as he rode through the rows of the orchard he breathed the rich evening air of summer, feeling a moment of peace

 
 

I think we can Bulwer-Lytton the thread…

Don’t make me nuke this trope by posting sex scenes out of either of those novels.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

FYWP!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

I’ve written the same goddamn thing three times already.

 
 

“His eyes slid down the front of her dress.”

Ouch! And ewwww!

 
 

“His eyes slid down the front of her dress.”

Ouch! And ewwww!

That’s what she gets for dating a leper.

 
 

I think we can Bulwer-Lytton the thread…

Yothrick Dondarion, wandering troubadour, paragon of minstrelsy, meandered under the Mediterranean sun, from the foothills of Mount Mycale to the banks of the Maeander, with a lyre on his hip and a song on his lips, softly murmuring a medly of monkees melodies.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Rubbing his pudgy hands together gleefully, the body modification fetishist’s son explained his latest plan for world domination to his dim but eager assistant. “First, we’ll lay claim to Australia and southern Asia. We’ll slowly fortify our borders while those fools continue with their futile battles. When the time is right, we’ll conquer Asia, then Europe, then Africa, and then the world!” He stopped to glare at his red-faced and glazed-eyed assistant.”Just don’t forget to switch out the weighted dice when our turn is over this time, idiot.”

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Ooooh, I think it got caught in the spam filter. Dammit.

 
 

Bulwer-Lytton the thread

It was raining, not rain like anyone else would know it, but a mist so fine it didn’t fall so much as accrete on the windshield of the old Ford pickup as he drove toward the Tea Party protest in Olympia, where he was scheduled to speak on the Socialistic aims of the current Administration and the questions that had been raised about his birth. As he ran over the speech in his mind, reminding himself to emphasize the key points about how Fascism and Socialism were two sides of the same perverted coin, a star of cracks appeared in his truck’s windshield. Then he heard the gunshot.

 
 

“That’s what she gets for dating a leper.”

Or maybe a….*looks around*….zombie.

 
 

That’s what she gets for dating a leper.

I was thinking zombie.

 
 

DAMMIT

 
 

Tee hee! Great minds and all…*high fives WC*

 
 

/me gives VS a surly look

I’m watching you…

 
 

Oh, so that camera belongs to you.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

At least your posts didn’t get eated. *pout*

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Oh, so that camera belongs to you.

Speaking from personal experience, you might want to look around a little. When there’s one, there are usually at least 6.

 
 

When there’s one, there are usually at least 6.

Heh, at least. Those are the ones you’re meant to find.

I’m a graduate of the Actor212 school of stalking.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Why the fuck don’t we use voicemail in this dump?

 
 

I would probably pay money to hear your voice say your name.

 
 

Probably.

 
 

Wait, did someone just say there are cameras around here?!?!? WRONG NUMBER! YOU HAVE THE WRONG NUMBER! I DON’T KNOW YOU..err..ME!

 
 

O.M.G. What’d I do?

Oh crap.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

I would probably pay money to hear your voice say your name.

That’s creepy.

How much?

 
 

That’s creepy.

How much?

I LOLed for reals.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

I LOLed for reals.

Thanks! But really…

 
 

Um, can I has a job first? Then we’ll negotiate price?

 
 

I will never understand how Ewik got on CNN, but then again, Rick “The Dirtiest” Sanchez has his own show so I guess we’re lucky Ewick is just a “contributor”.

 
Lurking Canadian
 

How much?

I am shocked, SHOCKED, to learn that pandering is going on in this fine establishment.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Um, can I has a job first? Then we’ll negotiate price?

Wait, you want me to give you a job so you can pay me to say my own name? There’s something…strange…about this plan.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Actually, if you just help me steal some shell chairs from the math building, I’ll totally do it.

 
 

There’s something…strange…about this plan.

You had to get all the way to there to find something strange in this?

Really?

 
 

Why the fuck don’t we use voicemail in this dump?

Because we like getting the “fuck off” from a live person

 
 

Actor, thanks for linking to this. I was concerned about our country but now I don’t give a shit. The very idea that two guidos named Snooki and The Situation are “American Icons” made me realize that no one else gives a fuck so why should I?

 
 

Wait, you want me to give you a job so you can pay me to say my own name?

It’s called aural sex.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

You had to get all the way to there to find something strange in this?

I’m slow. What can I say?

 
 

I’m slow. What can I say?

Iiiii’mmmmm Ssssssloooooow.

 
 

Wait, you want me to give you a job so you can pay me to say my own name?

It’s called aural sex.

Martinis are on me. Not literally. I’m buying because that’s funny.

 
 

Iiiii’mmmmm Ssssssloooooow.

That’s Trig’s signature line!

 
 

Iiiii’mmmmm Ssssssloooooow.

That’s Trig Sarah’s signature line!

Works well too.

 
 

Works well too.

Yep. Was trying to figure out how to work them both in there but BRANEPHALE.

 
 

McCain says Snooki doesn’t deserve jail time.

Hundreds of fish protest

 
 

Or maybe a….*looks around*….zombie.

I knew the zombie hate would show up before long. It’s like looking for racism at RedState.

 
 

Hundreds of fish protest

Thousands of snook dead for one Snooki. That’s not right.

 
 

I knew the zombie hate would show up before long.

But if you look upthread, I wrote two heroic-architect scenarios…

 
 

But if you look upthread, I wrote two heroic-architect scenarios…

Featuring an emotional zombie.

 
 

I knew the zombie hate would show up before long. It’s like looking for racism at RedState.
there you go confusing zombie-genocicdal intent with hatred again. We kill zombies out of love. (of not getting eaten)

 
 

It’s like looking for racism at RedState.

Be fair! You had to look a LOT harder here.

 
 

I knew the zombie hate would show up before long.

ZRM! Helmets: For ’em or ag’in ’em?

 
 

To be fair, I’m sure that for EE, pulling his pork or salivating over the prospect of a meatball pizza (WTF?!?) = America At Its Best.

I have scant patience for anthem-howlers & flag-fetishists … & in recent years, Canada has caught the disease from our neighbors to the south. Maple Leaf Rabies is everywhere now, right when our real merit as a nation is in decline (we do less per capita to help suffering people overseas than ever). The folly of thinking that residing on the right side of a line on a map magically makes one’s shit cease to stink needs to be put down like Old Yeller.

Patriotism: the cradle of bastardry.

As for Bulwer-Lytton Lit, surely the oakleaf of victory must rest upon the pointy pate of Peter Chimaera.

Shakespeare wept.

 
 

“Bulwer-Lytton the thread”

It was early spring. I thought she was still tending her garden as I feverishly fingered the keyboard of my Hammond. But, her comings and goings had always been truculent and unreliable. I knew my release was imminent as she placed her tulips on my organ……..

 
 

zombie-hate is always simmering, just under the surface. Not in me, of course.

 
 

zombie-hate is always simmering, just under the surface. Not in me, of course

Liar. Oh, you *deny* zombitry, but we’ve seen your posts and watched you carefully.

 
 

Hey: how do you know when zrm really likes you?

When his eyes slide down your dress.

 
Enraged Bull Limpet
 

This thread is smokin’! Don’t bogart that butt, my friends.

 
 

This thread is smokin’! Don’t bogart that butt, my friends.

You know what we need now? Some grilled escargot….

 
 

You know what we need now? Some grilled escargot….

Naw. You saute them. On the grill they’d never last…

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Dammit. My post from earlier still isn’t showing up.

 
 

Naw. You saute them. On the grill they’d never last…

That’s not true. I know plenty of bull limpets that have grilled nicely. You need to use indirect heat and that makes them last.

 
 

When his eyes slide down your dress.

…followed by his ears.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

OMFG

I can’t hear it and my head is already exploding from being really, really fucking annoyed.

 
 

When his eyes slide down your dress.

o/~ Ohhhhhhhhhhhh, when his eyes slide down your dress
And his face is a mess
That’s! A zombieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee o/~

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Moe and Megan do have a lot in common, though. It’s called “nepotism.”

 
 

I can’t hear it and my head is already exploding from being really, really fucking annoyed.

OMFG!

Megan McCardle looks like a fucking zombie!

 
 

Just to clarify my my point labelled 1. for @Tintin_Sadlyno –

I am in totes agreement that Erick the goat fucking child molester Erickson has displayed an EPIC lack of self-awareness in his hypocritical ranting.

It’s a kinda weird position I’m advancing – that for folks in positions of power the double standard can sometimes be justified. That the usual injunction against casting the first stone don’t apply when the castee is someone entrusted with a great deal of power. Not only because I am pathologically anti-authoritarian but also because when wingers do it (i.e. all the time), it’s teh funneh.

Note: the reason it’s funneh is that those smarmy puritanical morality cops that make up the conservative movement are unable to comment on non-conservatives from anywhere other than their usual holier-than-thou high horse. Teh inherent self-refudiation of it is deliciously… that quality that isn’t really “irony” but people call “ironic” all teh time it rains on your wedding day.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Megan McCardle looks like a fucking zombie!

Please to not insult our zombie brethren and sistren in such a way.

 
 

Just to clarify my my point labelled 1. for @Tintin_Sadlyno –

That’s what your mom said last night after I left her a tip.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Does McArdle have headgear in or something? WTF?

Moe looks cute, though. Aside from the SMOKING WTF?

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

I should point out that I predicted Snooki was McCain’s girlfriend last month at my blog.

She reminds him of Boehner.

 
 

Please to not insult our zombie brethren and sistren in such a way.

I totes meant a totally unsexy zombie that had no redeeming social quality except to maybe eat leftover anchor babies.

 
 

OMFG

Bimbo Fu.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

I totes meant a totally unsexy zombie that had no redeeming social quality except to maybe eat leftover anchor babies.

Would that include Michelle Malkin? Because I would have to disagree, then.

 
Enraged Bull Limpet
 

My BBQ secret ingredient is fish sauce in the marinade. U, Mami.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Bimbo Fu.

Is Moe fucking uptalking? She ALWAYS does that.

Sorry, I actually don’t personally hate her, but she drives me crazy and I’ve never been able to understand how she’s able to write for a living.

 
 

Would that include Michelle Malkin? Because I would have to disagree, then.

The beauty of eating Michelle Malkin for a zombie is he’d be hungry an hour later AND have propulsive diarrhea.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

I actually have a feeling that even the least discriminating zombie would have no interest in MM’s branes.

 
 

I actually have a feeling that even the least discriminating zombie would have no interest in MM’s branes.

Certainly not for leftovers, no.

 
 

…zombie would have no interest in way to find MM’s branes.

fzzzzzd

 
 

“The beauty of eating Michelle Malkin for a zombie is he’d be hungry an hour later AND have propulsive diarrhea.”

I was going to correct yer medical terminology to [i]explosive[/i] diarrhea”, then I pictured a zombie—shambling along—suddenly propelled downfield like a blast ended skrewt and couldnt quit laughing. (Yes I am easily amused sowwy)

 
 

In Erick’s defense, I too have smoked pork butt. But they’re hard as hell to keep lit.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

SOAK THE RICH!

Time for Super Taxes for the Super Rich?

My, my, what a novel fucking idea!

 
 

I can’t hear it and my head is already exploding from being really, really fucking annoyed.

Count your blessings – I can hear it just fine.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Count your blessings – I can hear it just fine.

Sorry. But seriously, is Moe uptalking? Like every sentence? Is a fucking question? Because she wants to sound like a little girl? Have I mention that this annoys me?

 
 

I was going to correct yer medical terminology to [i]explosive[/i] diarrhea”, then I pictured a zombie—shambling along—suddenly propelled downfield like a blast ended skrewt and couldnt quit laughing

I suffer from IBS, so for me, any diarrhea propels me much faster.

 
 

Time for Super Taxes for the Super Rich?

My, my, what a novel fucking idea!

Just saving them the trouble of having to “Reinvest in America”. That can be time consuming.

 
 

Have I mention that this annoys me?

Really? Cuz like, srsly? I can’t even imagine why?

 
 

Sleep deprived, but I’ll give it a shot.

Morning descended like a rocket exploding mid-flight, spraying amber fumes as flammable as his mood across his flat screen as he scoured his brain for sounds that would glisten bright as his rage at the castrating Madam who did not wish upon our great and hallowed nation a simple “Happy Birthday.” She did not tweet it. He was a twat about it—such was his rage.

 
Lurking Canadian
 

SOAK THE RICH!

Okay, I feel a powerful righteous rant coming on. Am I not correct in my belief that the issue currently before Congress is not actually “Should we extend the Bush tax cuts”, but rather, “Should we pass a new law to make sure the Bush tax cuts don’t expire, like they’re supposed to?”

And I am further not correct in my belief that the Bush tax cuts were passed using budget reconciliation, 51-50, with fucking Cheney casting the 51st vote?

And am I further not correct that the current Congress, having used up its reconciliation token on health care can’t pass anything else through reconciliation?

And taking all these together, does that mean that Serious Thinkers in Washington think they can put together a fucking filibuster-proof 60 votes for lower taxes on rich people in the Senate, when FUCKING BUSH COULDN’T EVEN DO THAT? Seriously, guys, how you coming with that blade enhanced cliff?

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Really? Cuz like, srsly? I can’t even imagine why?

Especially? As a young(ish) woman? Who would like to be taken seriously? For her brains? At least from time to time?

 
 

Note: the reason it’s funneh is that those smarmy puritanical morality cops that make up the conservative movement are unable to comment on non-conservatives from anywhere other than their usual holier-than-thou high horse.

That’s because OH GOD WE HATE THEM SO MUCH! The name Pelosi feels like poop in my mouth.

 
 

… For her brains?…

And the zombie bait is set.

 
 

For her brains? At least from time to time?

Brains are for chix with brains. Those less fortunate knuckleheaded conservatives have to fall back on endowments and being like, super duper cute!

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Seriously, guys, how you coming with that blade enhanced cliff?

Fuck that. I was just going to move up there to your homeland.

 
 

I would probably pay money to hear your voice say your name.

That’s creepy.

How much?

$10. $100 if you do it with a mouth full of cheetos.

 
 

I was just going to move up there to your homeland.

You’d better get over your thing with girls raising the pitch of their voices at the end of sentences, eh?

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

$100 if you do it with a mouth full of cheetos.

Even I won’t sink that low.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

You’d better get over your thing with girls raising the pitch of their voices at the end of sentences, eh?

I don’t mind it if everyone talks like that?

 
Lurking Canadian
 

Fuck that. I was just going to move up there to your homeland.

That’s not good enough. You’re welcome anytime of course, but if our current government gets its way, the Republicans will just follow right behind you. You’ve got to burn the bridges behind you as you leave.

 
Lurking Canadian
 

You’d better get over your thing with girls raising the pitch of their voices at the end of sentences, eh?

That is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT AND SHUT UP THAT’S WHY!

 
 

Read actor’s article. Don’t read the comments.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

That’s not good enough. You’re welcome anytime of course, but if our current government gets its way, the Republicans will just follow right behind you. You’ve got to burn the bridges behind you as you leave.

Maybe you guys should be the ones building a wall along the southern border of your country…

 
 

That is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT AND SHUT UP THAT’S WHY!

Are you? Sure?

 
 

Incidentally, I proposed a Super Tax for the Super Rich back in February.

 
 

Fuck that. I was just going to move up there to your homeland.

Mrs. Chowder and I watched a show on PBS about Norway. After hearing from the umpteenth Norhoogian about how peaceful an progressive a place it was, we looked at each other and asked “why don’t we live there?”

 
Lurking Canadian
 

In the mid-90s, I visited Sweden, with some (somewhat younger and very conservative) American students. They literally could not believe their eyes. When we got to the pristine public park, where the natives were playing a game of street hockey with non-vandalized, non-stolen, freely available public equipment they turned to me and asked, “How is this even possible?”

 
 

After hearing from the umpteenth Norhoogian about how peaceful an progressive a place it was, we looked at each other and asked “why don’t we live there?”

Because they have winter, thirteen months out of twelve.

 
 

After hearing from the umpteenth Norhoogian about how peaceful an progressive a place it was, we looked at each other and asked “why don’t we live there?”

I know, I’m considering moving just for teh curling pants.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

When we got to the pristine public park, where the natives were playing a game of street hockey with non-vandalized, non-stolen, freely available public equipment they turned to me and asked, “How is this even possible?”

Yeah, my Danish friend posted a picture the other day that included a close-up view of the street and a bridge…I kept thinking there was something really strange about the photo until I realized that it was just that the street was impeccably clean and well-maintained. Sad, really.

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

Would that include Michelle Malkin? Because I would have to disagree, then.

Zombies would never eat Michelle Malkin, nee Manananggal– the undead have a strict sense of professional courtesy.

 
 

I know, I’m considering moving just for teh curling pants.

Your mom always was a sucker for a flashy dresser.

 
 

Zombies would never eat Michelle Malkin, nee Manananggal- the undead have a strict sense of professional courtesy.

Don’t you mean retards?

 
 

In the mid-90s, I visited Sweden, with some (somewhat younger and very conservative) American students. They literally could not believe their eyes. When we got to the pristine public park, where the natives were playing a game of street hockey with non-vandalized, non-stolen, freely available public equipment they turned to me and asked, “How is this even possible?”

A friend of mine in college had a similar conversion experience when she lived abroad in Britain for a year and had dental work done that she’s needed for years but been unable to afford at American prices.

She came back furious at her Fox News intoxicated family and the entire conservative disinformation feedback loop, because “they lied to me!” Her family, of course, remains convinced she was brainwashed.

If every American kid spent just a few months in Europe at about the age they get the right to vote, I guaranfuckingtee the GOP wouldn’t be get enough votes to carry Alabama.

 
 

In the mid-90s, I visited Sweden, with some (somewhat younger and very conservative) American students. They literally could not believe their eyes. When we got to the pristine public park, where the natives were playing a game of street hockey with non-vandalized, non-stolen, freely available public equipment they turned to me and asked, “How is this even possible?”

Today on a Very Special Episode of Sadly, No…

 
 

If every American kid spent just a few months in Europe at about the age they get the right to vote, I guaranfuckingtee the GOP wouldn’t be get enough votes to carry Alabama.

And so now you know why only 30% of Americans hold passports.

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

Her family, of course, remains convinced she was brainwashed.

Nah, just toothwashed.

 
 

And while I’m on the quoting the same thing actor does before adding some snarky comment…

If every American kid spent just a few months in Europe at about the age they get the right to vote, I guaranfuckingtee the GOP wouldn’t be get enough votes to carry Alabama.

That reminds me of something.

 
Lurking Canadian
 

During the Soviet era, Soviet propaganda to their own citizens focused heavily on conditions (and riots) in American ghettos to prove that life in the USSR was better than life in the West.

In the US, there’s a cottage industry devoted to describing Europe as a Stalinist hell-hole where everybody in Sweden commits suicide and England is a barbaric place where brilliant scientists are pushed onto an ice floe if they are too big a drain on the health care system.

There’s a similarity there, if only I could find it…

 
Pupienus Maximus
 

This just in: California falls into ocean, millions dead.

Also FYWP.

 
 

Speaking of endoscopic surgery…
PENIS.

 
 

This just in: California falls into ocean, millions dead.

You know what this means?

There’s going to be an awful lot of premarital sex in California before the 18th!

 
 

This just in:

This is great news for McCain.

 
 

There’s a similarity there, if only I could find it…

I’ve said a million times that America was to Europe and Canada what Cuba was to the U.S. Generally speaking, Americans who travel to Europe and actually stay long enough to get a grasp of the local environment tend to be cured. Like Cubans who travel to the West, the reaction is entirely normal – “this is awesome, my country should have this (because I love my country and don’t want it to suffer).”

(Although, as I’ve also pointed out often, I think the average Cuban is far more aware than the average American that he’s being screwed and that the propaganda he’s watching is a bunch of garbage).

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

California falling into the fucking ocean!

And yes, I saw that. YAAAAAAAAAAAAYS!

 
Pupienus Maximus
 

PENIS.

That’s sounding more interesting all the time.

 
 

And yes, I saw that. YAAAAAAAAAAAAYS!

Many butts will be smoked on Green Eggs all over the state.

 
 

a low meat-to-bone ratio, which greatly reduces the bang for your buck.

Something something baculus something something something.

 
 

Oh, but this is gold. A PJM commentator is now formally proposing that poor people shouldn’t vote;

[…] there is much to be said for reasonable limits on the franchise: primarily to exclude those who are either employed by, or dependent upon, the government.

The notion of a majority of voters who rely on the government (which only has money by taking it from citizens), and hence those dependents being in a position to use the power of government to take increasingly more from the productive, was precisely the strongest argument against “democracy” from the first great political theorists of the ancient world on through the middle of the 19th century, when the notion of universal (first male only, then both men and women) sufferage became widespread.

In the 20th century and the early 21st, we’re seeing that fear borne out in spades in both Europe and America.

[…]

So, how would something like that work? No one on the dole, and I suppose that would include those who depend on social security and medicare, would be able to vote in national elections. If they owned property and paid state and/or local taxes, they could vote in those elections. Federal employees could not vote in federal elections, state and local employees could not vote in elections in which their interests were involved (that would eliminate most teachers voting, since school funding is some combination of federal, state and local funding). It’s more complicated, since some retirees receive their government benefits, but are still net taxpayers because of other income or assets.

Essentially, all adults (other than felons who have lost their voting rights) who are not net recipients of government largess would vote.

Yes, when they say they want to go back to the time of the Founders, they really do mean they want to repeal everything that’s come after that, all the way back to Andrew Jackson giving the right to vote to people who didn’t own land.

I suppose I’m not too opposed to this idea, since it would disqualify pretty much all of red state America, what with their fucking federal subsidies and all.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Oh, but this is gold. A PJM commentator is now formally proposing that poor people shouldn’t vote;

Oh, yeah, I’ve heard that before. Usually people just say, “Only people who pay taxes should be allowed to vote,” or “Only property owners should vote,” but dude steps up and excludes, like, 7/8s of the people in this entire fucking country.

 
Pupienus Maximus
 

A more effective way to disenfranchise red staters would be making them prove literacy.

 
 

limits on the franchise: primarily to exclude those who are either employed by, or dependent upon, the government.

[Geeky] Well, if it’s good enough for Honor Harrington and the Star Kingdom of Manticore then it’s by God good enough for me! After all, look what a wreck Haven turned into![/Geeky]

 
 

Essentially, all adults (other than felons who have lost their voting rights) who are not net recipients of government largess would vote.

So the entire states of Georgia, Ohio, Indiana, Utah, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Vermont, Nebraska, Iowa, Wyoming, Kansas, Arizona, Idaho, Tennessee, Maryland, Missouri, South Carolina, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Maine, Hawaii, Montana, Virginia, Kentucky, South Dakota, Alabama, North Dakota, West Virginia, Louisiana, Alaska, Mississippi, and New Mexico would be prevented from voting?

AWRIGHT! FINALLY, LIBERAL HEGEMONY!

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

So, like, if people’s kids go to public school, will they be allowed to vote? Do people who use the Post Office get to vote, or do we have to send everything via FedEx or some shit now?

Oh, and this would exclude the Sacred, Manly Police, Firefighters, and Military. Is he sure he wants that?

 
 

A more effective way to disenfranchise red staters would be making them prove literacy.

How? By reading a McDonalds menu? They have that memorized.

/sizist, regionalist, foodist

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

California falls into ocean?

I was going to go with that, too, but decided on Rancid instead. You know, for the kidz.

 
 

A PJM commentator is now formally proposing that poor people shouldn’t vote

I can almost smell the desperation to say “Darkies shouldn’t vote” battling with the lizard brain-level understanding that such a thing is a no-no in this modern age.

 
 

A more effective way to disenfranchise red staters would be making them prove literacy.

How? By reading a McDonalds menu? They have that memorized.

Nope, make them take the same literacy test we give new citizens.

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

Oh, and this would exclude the Sacred, Manly Police, Firefighters, and Military. Is he sure he wants that?

Well, most of those guys are union, so the answer is yes.

 
 

Oh, and this would exclude the Sacred, Manly Police, Firefighters, and Military. Is he sure he wants that?

Actually, yes. This is on the same article I posted way upthread that was fantasizing about Heinlein’s “only veterans are allowed to vote, but only after they’ve left the military” fantasy.

It was in one of the parts I cut out, but his basic premise is that military officers were very apolitical back in the 1950s (which is true; my grandfather was career Army and never chose a party), so therefore, we need to bring back that kind of ethic because then they’ll also be okay with not voting. Or something like that. It’s not too clear, but I swear, yes, he’s okay with that exclusion.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Well, most of those guys are union, so the answer is yes.

Not sure how you can claim that the troops are patriotic and deny them the right to vote, but I’m sure they’ll figure out how…

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Or something like that. It’s not too clear, but I swear, yes, he’s okay with that exclusion.

I do not understand these people at all.

 
 

My BBQ secret ingredient is fish sauce in the marinade. U, Mami.

You can lead a glute to water but you can’t glutamate.

 
 

Not sure how you can claim that the troops are patriotic and deny them the right to vote, but I’m sure they’ll figure out how…

Silly girl! They’ll claim it’s BECAUSE they aren’t allowed to vote that they’re patriotic and SHUT UP THAT’S WHY!

 
 

You can lead a glute to water but you can’t glutamate.

Unless you smoke his butt.

 
 

A PJM commentator is now formally proposing that poor people shouldn’t vote

When feudalism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a Cheetos bag & holding a copy of Going Rogue.

 
 

You knew it wouldn’t take long:

Same sex bridal magazine

 
 

In the 20th century and the early 21st, we’re seeing that fear borne out in spades

A bit Freudian, that.

 
 

All time winner, possibly worst-typed book ever published.

Yep, that’s even worse than my sister’s books (published by an Xtian publishing house and no, I’m not going to say her name or any titles). Trust me, that’s a high bar.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Yep, that’s even worse than my sister’s books (published by an Xtian publishing house and no, I’m not going to say her name or any titles).

Sooo, does she make any money doing that?

 
 

Sooo, does she make any money doing that?

Honestly: I’ve never asked. I suppose she makes something but she does it more for the love than the money. Her hubby is a dentist; they have plenty of money.

She also writes plays for her church. No, I’ve never seen one and I never will. She also appears at writers’ workshops because SHUT UP.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

I was kidding…mostly…

 
 

Not sure how you can claim that the troops are patriotic and deny them the right to vote, but I’m sure they’ll figure out how…

Because most wingnuts have a “Support the Troops” ribbon sticker on thier car. Obviously the troops don’t need to vote cause the wingnuts are already there to support them. For at least as long as they’re somewhere far away killing brown people.

 
 

M. Bouffant, I hate you with every fiber of my being. That is truly the worst writing (and editing) EVER. I read every page.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Because most wingnuts have a “Support the Troops” ribbon sticker on thier car. Obviously the troops don’t need to vote cause the wingnuts are already there to support them.

Oh yeah. I keep forgetting that empty rhetoric and cliches are much more important to these people than actual human decency.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Hee hee. Have you guys seen this yet? (Not the “John Cole is cranky part, though that’s amusing, but the McMegan part).

 
 

M. Bouffant, I hate you with every fiber of my being.

Even I have not had the nerve to scan (or read) any more & continue the series.

 
 

Have you seen ben quayle’s ad? He sounds like he might be mildly retarded.

 
 

Dr. Laura is still around?

 
 

Have you seen ben quayle’s ad? He sounds like he might be mildly retarded.

At least to the point of not knowing who his children are.

 
 

You stop making fun… oh you know what you did!.

 
 

VS: reported.

 
 

Essentially, all adults (other than felons who have lost their voting rights) who are not net recipients of government largess would vote.

Jesus fucking fuck. If there’s any way that your life is better living in the United States than Somalia, or what you could come up with by yourself on a deserted island, you’re a net recipient of of government largess [sic].

 
 

T&U, yeah, that’s gotta be the Freudian typo of the year… esp. since “spreading the bounty of pubic sector largesse” is, even more than business and economics, something McMegan clearly isn’t qualified to write about.

 
 

O.K. m. bouffant—if you find anything worse, let us know. “As he flew, his mind went back in time.” (as the opening sentence in a paragraph, no less) is seared into my brain, invoking images of delightfully cruel slapstick.

(I thought I was attention deficit disordered.)

(What if he flew backward?)

 
 

If every American kid spent just a few months in Europe at about the age they get the right to vote, I guaranfuckingtee the GOP wouldn’t be get enough votes to carry Alabama.

Eh, I’m not sure about that. It might help, but Australia is the only country in the world that does this, and they have plenty of right-wing xenophobic numbnuts in their government.

 
 

there is much to be said for reasonable limits on the franchise: primarily to exclude those who are either employed by, or dependent upon, the government.

My dad was a chemist for the USDA then the EPA, testing this asshole’s food and water. My mom was a teacher, trying like Hell to hammer some knowledge into this asshole’s empty noggin. They paid taxes that whole time, in addition to providing valuable-to-most-people-but-obviously-wasted-on-some services, so why should this useless asshole get to vote and they shouldn’t? Also, does he talk at all about corporate welfare? People who work for companies whose revenues depend on doing business with the government? It seems if you were to follow this to it’s logical extreme, nobody could vote.

The only people I think should possibly forfeit their right to vote are tax cheats.

 
 

“Whale Chowder said,
August 13, 2010 at 0:22

VS: reported.”

I’ve dealt with myself most harshly.

 
 

tigris: Well said, from the son of a VA hospital lab technician.

The late revered elder statesman blah blah puke Bill Buckley liked to at least tiptoe to the edge of calling for disenfranchisement. He called it an “interesting question” or something like that. And he defended the right of the white power structure in the Deep South to terrorize blacks by harrumphing that “sometimes the minority should prevail politically.”

 
 

I’ve dealt with myself most harshly.

I!
W? N?

 
 

Federal employees could not vote in federal elections, state and local employees could not vote in elections in which their interests were involved (that would eliminate most teachers voting, since school funding is some combination of federal, state and local funding)

(emphasis mine)

I mean, leaving aside that it rejects the basic premise of representative government, I’m pretty sure my congresscritters are public employees.

Had I not read some of the comments on YouTube, I would have a hard time believing that someone this stupid could actually connect to the internet.

 
 

Didn’t want to listen to the Dr Laura clip, but “the ‘n-word'” is sort of a pet peeve of mine. We are adults who understand the use/mention distinction. The Teatards0, for example, did not call Rep. John Lewis (D-GA) an “n-word”; they called him a nigger. If you don’t want to specify the word, I can understand that, as it’s a word associated with some major ugliness and evil acts, but then say “Tea Party troglodytes called civil rights hero Representative John Lewis a racial slur1”.

0. In a year or two we will say “Tea-Developmentally Challenged” or something.

1. Some might say an epithet, but no. “Rosy-fingered dawn” is an epithet2. “Cabbage-stuffed bohunk” is a slur.

2. (With capitals and no hyphen, it’s hot girl-on-girl action)

 
 

“Didn’t want to listen to the Dr Laura clip”

I just did. Her main complaint seems to be that this controversy is all about power. She resents the fact the blacks have to power to say they don’t like it when whites use the N word and she connects that up with the fact that we have a black man in the white house.

It is simply amazing to me the power that Obama has.

 
A Regular Commenter
 

It is simply amazing to me the power that Obama has.

And yet, he still hasn’t used his amazing mind control methods to pass universal healthcare, cap and trade, or repeal DADT. It is a mystery.

 
 

She resents the fact the blacks have to power to say they don’t like it when whites use the N word

Aaggghh! Thanks for the warning. Should have assumed it would be in that vein.

And blame Obama for suddenly empowering all African-Americans!

 
 

Aaand, we’re back to repeating the same ol’ thing…”They can call each other n*gger, why can’t I call them that?”

Yawn.

 
 

Aaand, we’re back to repeating the same ol’ thing…

Vacuumslayer’s self-abuse is more interesting than teabaggers?

 
 

”They can call each other n*gger, why can’t I call them that?”

Yes, she says exactly that… but there’s more!!

“If you’re that hypersensitive about color and don’t have a sense of humor, don’t marry outside of your race,”

Dr. Laura’s caller was a black woman complaining that her white husband doesn’t back her up when friends make racist comments. Dr. Laura then launches into a tirade of “ni@@er, ni@@er, ni@@er” and when the woman complain to her berates her for being hypersensitive.

It’s like…. when you have a super saturated salt solution and these perfect crystals form right in the middle and then fall to the bottom. Crystalline wingnut tears are falling out of solution. It’s almost beautiful.

 
 

Federal employees could not vote in federal elections, state and local employees could not vote in elections in which their interests were involved

Apparently people should not vote if they have a personal stake in the outcome.
Perhaps you could arrange a deal with another country — Switzerland perhaps — whereby they vote for your government and you vote for their government.

 
 

Poetic, noen. I laughed, I cried, I laughed.

 
 

“Cabbage-stuffed bohunk” is a slur.

With capitals and no hyphen, it is the plot of a niche movie.

 
 

Cabbages fit in niches? Who knew?

 
 

If you boil them, yes, cabbages will fit into a lot of places. Not that I’d know…

 
 

Vacuumslayer’s self-abuse is more interesting than teabaggers?

Really? You have to ask?

A number of comments that are frankly offensive and / or just plain nasty are rattling around the three brain cells I have left; I think I’ll just leave it as an exercise* for the reader.

*VJOR

 
 

Have you seen ben quayle’s ad? He sounds like he might be mildly retarded.

Sounds like a Quayle tradition. Dan Quayle wishes he had the “stop making fun of Trig!” dodge to ward off his critics.

 
 

Vacuumslayer’s self-abuse is more interesting than teabaggers?

Was the newsletter, website, etc question answered on this topic?

I’m asking for a friend.

 
 

She resents the fact the blacks have to power to say they don’t like it when whites use the N word

Why does she hate the Bill of Rights? Bitch.

 
 

Her main complaint seems to be that this controversy is all about power. She resents the fact the blacks have to power to say they don’t like it when whites use the N word and she connects that up with the fact that we have a black man in the white house.

Yeah, those bastards! We white people go to a bunch of work to invent a nice catchy racial slur and then some minorities come along and steal it from us.

 
 

Was the close tag question on the Tags Test answered correctly by Looch?

Apparently, NOT.

 
 

We white people go to a bunch of work to invent a nice catchy racial slur and then some minorities come along and steal it from us.

See! They’re all a bunch of crooks!

 
 

“Why does she hate the Bill of Rights?”

Yup

CALLER: Is it OK to say that word? Is it ever OK to say that word?
DR. LAURA: It depends how it’s said. Black guys talking to each other seem to think it’s ok.
CALLER: But you’re not black, they’re not black, my husband is white.
DR. LAURA: Oh, I see, so a word is restricted to race. Got it. Can’t do much about that.
CALLER: I can’t believe someone like you is on the radio spewing out the n***** word, and I hope everybody heard it.
DR. LAURA: I didn’t spew out the n***** word!
CALLER: You said “n*****, n*****, n*****” and I hope everybody heard it.
DR. LAURA: Yes they did, and I’ll say it again: n*****, n*****, n***** is what you hear on HBO.
[Crosstalk]
DR. LAURA: Why don’t you let me finish a sentence? Don’t take things out of context. Don’t NAACP me, leave them in context.

You think it’s bad now. Wait till after the fall elections. I don’t think the GOP will gain nearly as many seats as they think they will. They’ll be looking a two more years, possibly six, of that which cannot be! When it finally dawns on these racists that the party is over their howls will… well, I don’t even know what to say.

 
 

Sounds like a Quayle tradition. Dan Quayle wishes he had the “stop making fun of Trig!” dodge to ward off his critics.

Hey! “Stop making fun of trig” is supposed to be my line!

Wingnut mathematics is as crazy as wingnut physics, BTW. In addition to his “special” objections to special relativity, Schlafly has a weird vendetta against the Axiom of Choice. Or as they call it on Conservapedia, “The Axiom of It’s a Child, Not a Choice”.

 
 

n*****, n*****, n***** is what you hear on HBO.

I blame Omar Little for the state of politics today.

 
 

You think it’s bad now. Wait till after the fall elections. I don’t think the GOP will gain nearly as many seats as they think they will. They’ll be looking a two more years, possibly six, of that which cannot be! When it finally dawns on these racists that the party is over their howls will… well, I don’t even know what to say.

The last year or so has made me the ultimate political pessimist, a condition I fear may be there for the rest of my life. I’m expecting them to win back both houses. Okay, I hope not, but I’d rather be surprised in a good way.

What really depresses me is that no matter how crazy their rhetoric gets and no matter how much they come to depend on hate, they’ll lose very little of their support base.

 
 

“Schlafly has a weird vendetta against the Axiom of Choice.”

As I recall Any Rand also had issues with it. Objectivists generally believe that they can solve the analytic/synthetic distinction. Once you give them that the rest of their nonsense falls into place. Like any cult, there is usually one totally insane thing that they believe and around which all the rest of their psychosis revolves.

 
 

What really depresses me is that no matter how crazy their rhetoric gets and no matter how much they come to depend on hate, they’ll lose very little of their support base.

While I am there with you to a degree, my concern is more with the economic realities of the next decade. Yes, the rhetoric will get worse, but day-to-day living conditions will make it less material. I think things could really go in the shitter.

Bet that made you feel better. 😮

 
 

Bet that made you feel better. 😮

You have no idea. The worst part is knowing that it could all be fixed, but won’t be because good American R words would rather sink with the ship than keep it afloat and share it with the N words.

Orwell had a line about “the vision of an earthly paradise being discarded at the very moment it had become attainable.”

 
 

I’m trying to start a fight at my forum.

I signed up just so I could put “The Algonquin Kiddie Table” on my bookmarks … don’t know how much of a Chatty Cathy I’m apt to be there, but … it sure seems like an awesome place for Sadlynauts to go to gossip about Tintin’s new hairdo or Gavin’s unusual taste in couture.

What? No video feed? So what? Who needs one when I can see it all – WITH THE POWER OF MY MIND!

Dr. Laura is still around?

Embalming fluid is a hell of a drug.

 
 

Objectivists generally believe that they can solve the analytic/synthetic distinction.

Pardon my ignorance – what is that, exactly? And how do they think they can solve it?

 
 

rather sink with the ship than keep it afloat and share it with the N words.

The machine had already disposed of nolars, nightzebs, nocs, necs, nallyrakers, neotremes and nonmalrigers. At moments, though, it seemed that instead of reducing, diminishing and subtracting, the machine was increasing, enhancing and adding, since it liquidated, in turn: nonconformists, nonentities, nonsense, nonsupport, nearsightedness, narrow-mindedness, naughtiness, neglect, nausea, necrophilia and nepotism. But after a while the world very definitely began to thin out around Trurl and Klapaucius.

 
 

there is much to be said for reasonable limits on the franchise: primarily to exclude those who are either employed by, or dependent upon, the government.

There was an article over at redstate this morning that said we should base voting rights should be based on the Stareship Troopers model of citizenship. Im not going back to look for it, as reading redstate for more than 5 mins makes me want to break things.

Same goes for Megan, I mean really, aside from her weird shaped head, what is wrong with her……

 
 

we should base voting rights should be based on the Stareship Troopers model of citizenship.

A future Bond girl and future Gotham City siren vote while the infantry is too fucking stupid to use hand grenades? I’m doubtful…

 
Lurking Canadian
 

the infantry is too fucking stupid to use hand grenades?

Or any formation more complicated than “the bunch”.

To be fair, though, the military in the books is decidedly less incompetent. (This should not be read as an endorsement of the restriction of the franchise to veterans.)

 
 

I’m trying to start a fight at my forum.

Sideways hate !!!!! have you no sense of decency……

 
 

A future Bond girl and future Gotham City siren vote while the infantry is too fucking stupid to use hand grenades? I’mdoubtful…

I sometimes wonder how stupid a voting system these fuckers can come up with to stop the poor people/blacks/liberals from voting, as they do realize they are in the minority. Only people that own more than 4 handguns/ like Red Dawn/ drink Budwiser (and like it) get votes?

 
 

“I know I sent her to private kindergarten because public schools waste money, he thought as he waited to pick up his Hannity-lovin moppet from the fifth day of her first week at school, but she looks so tired these days, and there’s that nagging cough -maybe its from the lint dust- but probably just a first-week-at-The Old Mill school cold. And working in the mill is good education of conservative kids, and the family can sure use the extra money she brings in to buy more pork butts. Damm that unpatriotic Nancy Pelosi!”

 
 

Orwell had a line about “the vision of an earthly paradise being discarded at the very moment it had become attainable.”

Well Chris, ironically enough this thought made me feel better because it made me cry. The war drums again—damn them. I can take a lot of craziness, but the war drums always knock me back on my heels. Crying about it is better than shutting down so hard that I seem to have stopped breathing.

Damn it. Why do we have to be this way? We don’t even seem to be learning the hard way anymore. One damn war after another, as if we were in the play-offs—as if it were sport.

If the Rs and wingnuts would all agree to fight these wars themselves, it would probably solve a lot of our domestic problems here in the U.S., but I can’t in good conscience wish that on anyone. I am, however, perfectly comfortable with wanting the warhawks and their cheerleaders to get cancer and die—- slowly. painfully. alone. with regrets. I’m way past trying to blow that shit out of my chakras.

 
 

Why do we have to be this way? We don’t even seem to be learning the hard way anymore.

Doesn’t hurt that the wars are never fought on one’s own turf. It’s kind of hard to ignore everything around you blasted to hell & everyone starving &/or crazy &/or sick. Out of sight, out of mind – & Afghanistan is literally on the other side of the world.

Also doesn’t hurt when you select enemies that can’t fight back. Remember the dire menace to democracy posed by that 1980’s superpower, Grenada – or the Nicaraguan hordes lurking only three days from the Mexican border? “Paybacks are a bitch” no longer holds true when you’re a pro kickboxer bravely taking down an orphan in a wheelchair.

Mandatory combat-role conscription for all pro-war pols & Fortune 500 CEOs = real Pax Americana.

I’ll stop calling the 21st Century Colonial Cosplayer’s Circus “teabaggers” when I start seeing THAT on their fucking protest-signs.

 
 

To be fair, though, the military in the books is decidedly less incompetent.

Not to mention actually being Mobile Infantry, with bad ass battlesuits that could be dropped from orbit, crash through buildings and were design to control a half mile of open territory.

The movie was just so bad; it left all the crappy political/philosophical nonsense in and took out the cool action stuff.

 
 

The movie was just so bad;

I’ve only ever seen about 60% of it. We get to the scene where Dougie Hauser says “We’re looking for a different type of bug…a smart bug.” and I pass out from laughter. How does it end?

 
Lurking Canadian
 

More or less like the book. The MI captures a “brain bug”, and Obersturmfurher Doogie finds that he can communicate telepathically with it, thus promising eventual victory. Rico is promoted to command of the Roughnecks, indicating that he has completed his indoctrination and internalized the propaganda of the federal system. Dina Meyer dies, but Denise Richards gets command of a ship.

The final voice over says, “They’ll keep fighting…And they’ll win! Would you like to know more?”

 
 

To be fair, though, the military in the books is decidedly less incompetent.

fuck me, they made books of that shit…..

I’ve just looked it up, he was the founder of ‘Warmongering dickheads for more nuclear weapons’…..last night

Watched “The Day the earth stood still’ last night (the new version). Came away disappointed, as I think the aliens had a point.

 
Lurking Canadian
 

It’s just one book, and it preceded the movie by many years. I typed the ‘S’ inadvertently. And it occurs to me that the ending of the book is only like the ending of the movie in that Rico is promoted and the war is not over. I don’t think the “brain bug” stuff is in the book, but I’m not sure.

 
 

…. last night….. …. sorry, my laptop is having a mini seizure…

How does it end?

We win, but its just the end of the beginning, rather than the end of the end….. and more SACRIFICE (TM) is required….

 
 

Brain-Bug was in the book too, even the “its scared” comment. But Heinlein was writing speculative fiction, not really advocating it, tho he often expressed some really awful Social Darwinism/fascist type opinions. But the was contradictory: on one had he seemed to believe only brilliant and very healthy people should be allowed to exist & reproduce. But then he had his long-lived ‘Howards’ care tenderly for their defective children, and in return the children were telepathic and gave these people the ability to have instantaneous un-buggable communications.

I prefer his Juveniles.

 
 

Chris said

Objectivists generally believe that they can solve the analytic/synthetic distinction.

Pardon my ignorance – what is that, exactly? And how do they think they can solve it?

It’s also called the Is/Ought distinction. It means that one cannot deduce from one’s arm chair that Saturn has rings but we can deduce that 2+2=4. Objectivists consider this an affront to their ego because it means the universe does not revolve around them.

 
 

Was the newsletter, website, etc question answered on this topic?

Unfortunately, Not!

…it never is. Dammit. Your “friend,” like the rest of us, will have to go away disappointed.

 
 

…he often expressed some really awful Social Darwinism/fascist type opinions.

Yeah, I’m conflicted about Heinlein. He was one of the authors who got me hooked on SciFi back before we walked on the moon but even then some of his social ideas gave me the shivers. I’ve come to see him as more of a Libertarian Dickhead than a Fascist.

OTOH, Stranger in a Strange Land was a hippie touchstone.

Like I said, conflicted.

 
 

Tonight on Larry Kinng he has Laura Ingraham. I could only tolerate a few seconds of her. My gawd she looks like a fucking Nazi. She belongs in a Quentin Tarantino flick. Preferably one with lots of film exploding.

 
 

Heinlein’s “The Moon is a Harsh Mistress” is Libertarian political treatise. But… every 16 year old should go through a phase where you dream of destroying your enemies from orbit.

Some of Heinlein’s latter fiction seemed to mellow out a bit.

 
 

I just glanced at RedState and lost way too many brain cells just on the first post. It’s a fairly short post about who evil Dems are because every Dem in the world made snitty comments about Palin and the Stevens plane crash but RS gets two very basic things about the main characters dead wrong: Halloran is a candidate, not an elected official, and State Rep. Horrigan just resigned. Damn you sadlys for making me look at RS. That place eats brains cells faster than doing bong hits while watching the Beverly Hillbillies.

 
 

every 16 year old should go through a phase where you dream of destroying your enemies from orbit.

I was precocious…I think I read TMIAHM at age 14. I kept jumping back and forth between Heinlein and Andre Norton for SciFi and then threw in hardboiled detectives and hardboiled Cold War spy novels for spice. Also read the occasional challenging piece but really my meat and potatoes was (were?) trashy pulp fiction.

Ah, yout.

 
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
 

The Moon is a Harsh Mistress was the last readable novel Heinlein wrote. Everything after his stroke was just…embarrassing.

I guess looking back, a lot of his stuff is contaminated with libertarianism. Maybe in the 40s and 50s and into the 60s libertarianism wasn’t quite as noxious a philosophy as it is now?

TMIAHM mainly impressed me as a tour-de-force of language. Written in English as it would be spoken in the Lunar Colonies in 2076—a mishmash of American and Commonwealth dialects and heavily influenced by Russian, Chinese and other languages. (How many definite articles are there in the book? As many as four?) Bozhemoi!

At any rate, if Heinlein was trying to indoctrinate people with libertarianism or right-wing politics, he failed miserably with me. I grew up on his stuff, and if any one influence could be credited with making me the raging lefty I am, that’s it.

 
 

To be fair, though, the military in the books is decidedly less incompetent.

The one interesting thing about the movie was how the recruits kept getting younger through the course of the film. Presumably the war was not going well.

There’s a propaganda commercial towards the end of the movie and the recruits look to be approximately 12 years old.

 
 

At any rate, if Heinlein was trying to indoctrinate people with libertarianism or right-wing politics, he failed miserably with me. I grew up on his stuff, and if any one influence could be credited with making me the raging lefty I am, that’s it.

I’m glad to see that I’m not the only one. I read Moon as a teenager so it clicked pretty solidly with me. Heck I’m even quite fond of the Cat Who Walks Through Walls despite it falling apart two thirds of the way through.

 
 

I loved some of Heinlein’s juveniles – Starman Jones, for example – when I was ~10. Lost interest in him as I got older and read some of his later work. Friday contained a small amount of semi-interesting soft-core, but The Past Through Tomorrow and Stranger in a Strange Land bored me to tears. As far as I can tell, I didn’t even notice the libertarian crap until after I stopped reading him.

All pulp genres tend to run together in my head, and I left Heinlein not because I left sci fi, but because I started reading better pulp writers, like Richard Matheson.

 
 

There’s a propaganda commercial towards the end of the movie and the recruits look to be approximately 12 years old.

From experience I can say that 12-year-olds are really good at coordinated, command-driven activities. I see military actions conducted in a “cluster ball” soccer fashion.

Success, guaranteed.

 
 

I see military actions conducted in a “cluster ball” soccer fashion.

Good point, but 12 year olds are also far more vicious than adults when it comes to othering.

 
 

Good point, but 12 year olds are also far more vicious than adults when it comes to othering.

It’s the dirty secret of child soldiering that the kids who are press-ganged into the military often learn to love it.

In Sierra Leone, the RUF used to give them drugs, so when the war ended and the kids went back to their family, everyone agreed that it was the drugs that made them do it. Was only partly true, but it helped the therapy and reintegration go better – not all truths are good to say.

 
 

jim, I was noticing that sometimes posts get threadjacked (not by me, of course!) and it struck me that people might want to actually have substantive discussions without people talking about boobs and music and Nicholas Cage. So, yeah, I’m hoping people stop in once in awhile just be silly and shoot the shit.

 
 

It’s just one book, and it preceded the movie by many years. I typed the ‘S’ inadvertently

If you meant to say “movies,” there were two sequels that went straight to DVD.

Um, it’s uhhhh hard to say they were worse than the original (at least I understood there were some spoofs of Fox News in that one), but they, um, were.

 
 

Have you seen ben quayle’s ad? He sounds like he might be mildly retarded.

Which makes him higher up the evolutionary chain than his dad.

 
 

Which makes him higher up the evolutionary chain than his dad Trig feel much smarter.

What?

 
 

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