Mosque Tears (Join The Jamboree!)
Sometimes as we Sadlynauts barrel ahead breathlessly and mindlessly toward our utopian dream of a society where gay abortionists turn all Abercrombie & Fitch male models into their own personal sex slaves, where dusky-skinned usurpers pass regulations removing all salt from Cheetos, and where Glenn Beck and Michelle Malkin are stars of a reality show where they engage in a gladiatorial cage match to the death of one or both of them, we lose sight of our foundational principles. We forget that this blog was founded on ferreting out (not in the apocryphal “gay” sense) misstatements by wingnuts, contradicting them with the facts and then doing the famous “Sadly, No!” dance on the grave of the debunked posts
A spittle-flecked post by Andy McCarthy on the dire possibility of a new mosque in Manhattan provides a perfect opportunity for us to return to our roots. What I once said about Don Jim Bob Billy Boy Surber I can safely repeat about Andy “The Muslims Are Coming, The Muslims Are Coming” McCarthy: In any given post by McCarthy, there are generally only slightly fewer errors than there are vowels.
Take this sentence:
When we launched [my new book] last week, . . . the top news story of the day was the community board vote to approve(1) the erection, over the ruins of the Twin Towers(2), of a mosque(3) named after the Caliphate that conquered(4) Spain(5) and ruled it, often brutally, for over half a millennium(6).
(1) Sadly, No! The community board had no power to “approve” or withhold approval of the building which could proceed with regard to the board’s vote
(2) Sadly, No! The building in question is two blocks away from Ground Zero, not “over the ruins.”
(3) Sadly, No! The building would be a community center and only part of the building would be a mosque.
(4) Sadly, No! Moors conquered the southern portions of Spain between 711 and 713 CE, more than two centuries before Abd al-Rahman III proclaimed himself Caliph of Córdoba
(5) Sadly, No! The Caliphate of Cordoba only ruled the southern half of Spain, not all of it.
(6) Sadly, No! The Caliphate of Cordoba lasted for slightly more than a century (929 to 1031 CE), not half a millenium.
Of course, McCarthy’s single biggest whopper is that this building is “major advance in what the Muslim Brotherhood has called its “grand jihad” to “sabotage” the United States from within” and that it will help the terrorist “conquer America” and turn it slowly into a shariah society. Sadly, No! It’s just a fucking building. If buildings are important, this one is outweighed by the forty-six megagazillion churches and synagogues in the United States. It’s like saying that the opening of one Burger King in lower Manhattan marks the beginning of the end of vegetarianism. I mean, what is Andy thinking? That women who walk by the community center will be overcome by some mysterious juju and will involuntarily don burqas, forswear pork products and join harems at the next available opportunity?
“the erection”
Really, Andy? Is that really the word you want to go with? Really.
As far as the last part is concerned, more in hope than in anger in Andy’s case, I’m sure.
So much wrong in so small a space. I’m impressed.
That women who walk by the community center will be overcome by some mysterious juju and will involuntarily don burqas, forswear pork products and join harems at the next available opportunity?
What does it say about me that forswearing pork is, by far, what I would be least likely to do of the three?
This kind of shit does make people crazy. I remember when this one suburb of Chicago freaked because their school board sold an unneeded school to a group intending to use it as a Muslim community center. In the next election, that school board got taken over by a bunch of write-in yahoos whose only agenda or priority was canceling the sale. Of course, it was too late by then, but they did manage to delay things and piss away God knows how much tax money in legal challenges (along with alienating the local Muslims, of course).
This was years before 9/11. How much easier must it be for shitheads to get people hysterical over stuff like this today?
Uh, and as for the brutality claim, the J00z did a lot better under the Moors than they did under Torquemada’s boys.
I’m sorry, it’s “Moops.”
Pssh. That’s almost as bad as John Hinderaker’s review of Nick Kristof’s review of Ayan Hirsan Ali’s book. Shorter:
It’s funny how no one ever names their kid Torquemada anymore.
Yeah, I remember that dumb ass suburb too.
And aside from, well, everything else wrong in that article, Dopey manages to completely libel the Caliphate of Cordoba, THE center of Medieval scholarship in Western Europe, a beacon of tolerance, and generally sweet place to be, until fanatics of both the Christian and Muslim sorts wrecked the place. And of course Christian Spain is famous for its tolerance and respect for religious liberty.
the community board vote to approve(1) the erection
Wow! CB 1 is strict! I hope I never live down there. I’d hate to have to apply for a zoning waiver every time I wanted to polish the dolphin!
What does it say about me that forswearing pork is, by far, what I would be least likely to do of the three?
You will be recruited heavily to be the first member of my burqa harem?
Given the relative unpopularity of vegetarianism, I’m sure we could come up with a better analogy. Even reversing it might be better; after all, there may actually be more Muslims than vegetarians in the US, and there aren’t a lot of either. Problem is, I don’t know of a vegetarian franchise restaurant whose name would be easily recognizable and whose appearance would (in an analogy to Mr. McCarthy’s notion) signal the inevitable abolition of the hamburger.
I mean, what is Andy thinking?
This presupposes he’s capable of thought. Sadly, No.
he calls her a provocateur
Uh, wouldn’t that be provocateuse?
What does it say about me that forswearing pork is, by far, what I would be least likely to do of the three?
That you love
topork.It’s funny how no one ever names their kid Torquemada anymore.
Not really; Torquemada sounds all foreign and elitist and shit. Unlike Hitler.
I just hope Klansmen don’t get confused. That could be awkward.
As I sit here, drafting on deadline, I can turn my head to the right and look out on (1) the slow-motion demolition of 130 Liberty St, the last 9-11-related demo at the site, (2) the new construction on site, and (3) the empty building that would be the Islamic Center. I point this out to say that I know the area better than just about any pundit.
Between the tourists, the messengers, the dope-smoking brokers, and the ordinary residents and workers, NO ONE WILL NOTICE THE FUCKING THING. Who cares?
That site definitely should have something All-American on it, like a Wal Mart Superstore.
You will be recruited heavily to be the first member of my burqa harem?
As long as there’s bacon…
Problem is, I don’t know of a vegetarian franchise restaurant whose name would be easily recognizable and whose appearance would (in an analogy to Mr. McCarthy’s notion) signal the inevitable abolition of the hamburger.
Subway.
Yes. I know…they “say” it’s meat.
Even reversing it might be better; after all, there may actually be more Muslims than vegetarians in the US, and there aren’t a lot of either.
The Axis of Hummus!
You will be recruited heavily to be the first member of my burqa harem?
As long as there’s bacon…
Why not just cut out the middleman and make the burqa from bacon? What’s wrong with a baconra?
Is a burqa harem anything like a Procol Harum?
Between the tourists, the messengers, the dope-smoking brokers, and the ordinary residents and workers, NO ONE WILL NOTICE THE FUCKING THING. Who cares?
It’s the old Burlington Coat Factory, right? That’s like six blocks up from Ground Zero.
he calls her a provocateur
Uh, wouldn’t that be provocateuse?
I don’t speak Muslim, so if it’s wrong blame Kristof and/or Hinderaker.
The mangling of her name was all me, though.
Is a burqa harem anything like a Procol Harum?
Isn’t a Procol Harum what the Saudi ambassador totes around behind him?
Oh wait, that’s a Protocol Harum…sorry…
You forgot to adjust fot inflation. Plus in Muslim years, I bet it’s a real big number!
Why not just cut out the middleman and make the burqa from bacon? What’s wrong with a baconra?
Baconkinis are preferable, I think. Bacon grease can’t be good for the skin or the hair.
You forgot to adjust fot inflation. Plus in Muslim years, I bet it’s a real big number!
Damn Arabic number system! They ought to use American numbers, like the rest of the world!
Bacon grease can’t be good for the skin or the hair
It makes for good eatin’.
Baconkinis…
Oh my…
THIS.
I’ll be in my bunk.
Hmmm… oppressively conservative sexual slavery AND bacon?! That could really catch on!
Hmmm… oppressively conservative sexual slavery AND bacon?! That could really catch on!
Yeah, we call that Missouri.
join harems at the next available opportunity Sadly, No.
By the way, will the Cordoba Center include rich corinthian leather and be guest opened by Ricardo Montalban?
omg, I’m late.
omg, I’m late.
*packing bag, groping for passport, booking flight to non-extraditable nation that doesn’t recognize paternity testing*
Breath easy. It’s not yours. I think it happened during Fleet Week.
I think it happened during Fleet Week.
But that just ended!
Breath easy. It’s not yours.
And don’t DO that! I just finished paying off the last one!
I’m just that fast.
I think it happened during Fleet Week.
Hello, Sailor.
passport? as in singular? Actor, I thought you were more prepared than that. I bought the discount pacage, one each of Canadian, Mexican, Bolivian, Argentinian, Montenegran and Bulgarian. I also keep a cheap motorcycle, (five year old Kawasaki KLR 650, a double handful of gas cards (paid for in cash) and a backpack full of Krugerrands) you know, just for a rainy day.
I bought the discount pacage, one each of Canadian, Mexican, Bolivian, Argentinian, Montenegran and Bulgarian. I also keep a cheap motorcycle, (five year old Kawasaki KLR 650, a double handful of gas cards (paid for in cash) and a backpack full of Krugerrands) you know, just for a rainy day.
Is that just for potential paternity testing, or can anyone who may need to make a quick getaway purchase that package? I’m asking for a friend.
I feel like I should clarify that I’m late…to this thread. No paternity tests necessary, guys! Except for you, actor.
‘purchased’ might be an exaggeration. ‘Acquired’ is more accurate. Be careful, and hang around airport bars at bar time, with a sock full of dimes, and you should be able to put together a similar package for free.
It’s the old Burlington Coat Factory, right? That’s like six blocks up from Ground Zero.
Two blocks up Greenwich.
Actor, I thought you were more prepared than that
My second passport hasn’t come thru yet.
But prepared? I have a standing offer to spend the night in Antarctica.
hang around airport bars at bar time, with a sock full of dimes, and you should be able to put together a similar package for free.
Sounds even more boring than staying out of trouble.
Be careful, and hang around airport bars at bar time, with a sock full of dimes, and you should be able to put together a similar package for free.
I don’t know many cheap Kawasakis that could get thru airport screenings.
Two blocks up Greenwich.
Right.
But on a side street. Across from a building at least as tall. In other words, not even fucking visible from the Freedom Tower’s very top if you brought a periscope and leaned wayyyyyy out a window.
not even fucking visible from the Freedom Tower’s very top if you brought a periscope and leaned wayyyyyy out a window.
South of the site, so nearest the memorial, but yeah.
I don’t know of a vegetarian franchise restaurant whose name would be easily recognizable and whose appearance would (in an analogy to Mr. McCarthy’s notion) signal the inevitable abolition of the hamburger.
Whackywedia says you have branches of Maoz already.
I also keep a cheap motorcycle, (five year old Kawasaki KLR 650, a double handful of gas cards (paid for in cash) and a backpack full of Krugerrands) you know, just for a rainy day.
Just in case you have to do ***SPOILER*** this ***SPOILER***, eh?
not even fucking visible from the Freedom Tower’s very top if you brought a periscope and leaned wayyyyyy out a window.
What? You think that the islamofascists aren’t there if you can’t see them? That is *such* pre-9/11 thinking.
Kawasakis are difficult to transport even in checked luggage. But returning travelers often have those tickets which allow them to retrieve their vehicles from long term storage. These vehicles might be Kawasakis, or might be tradeable for cash, which you can then trade for a Kawasaki. I didn’t say it wasn’t going to take some effort.
One thing that confuses me about the whole wingnut hatred of Islam (and I mean in that in a sincere way, not a snarky one) is that Islamic fundamentalists seem to have so much in common with Christian fundies. I mean, they’re basically two sides of the same coin. Why the hatred? Why the distrust? I bet if a bunch of fundies from each side got together, they’d find out how much they both hate gays and women. And then a real bond could be formed.
These vehicles might be Kawasakis, or might be tradeable for cash, which you can then trade for a Kawasaki.
What about a Segway? Would that work?
Baconkinis…
I’ll be in my bunk.
For DKW.
Of all the depressing stuff that shows up in my RSS reader, this “OMG they’re building a mosque … IN NYC!!1!” story depresses me quite a bit. Shouldn’t wet pants – such as the ones that McCarthy surely wears, on a good day – be a disqualifier from participating in any reasoned discussion?
Why the hatred? Why the distrust?
Barbecue pork.
For what it’s worth, modern Arabic uses a set of Arabic Arabic numerals that are not Arabic numerals, in addition to non-Arabic Arabic numerals. And this fact is not nearly as irritating as bidirectionality and the long history of kluges used to handle it on computer systems.
The Segway is a fine vehicle, but it is harder to convince the border guards that you are merrily skipping across the border for a little off-roading, and will probably be back tomorrow or the day after at the latest. I think they would invite rather more scrutiny than one transporting a backpack full of Krugerrands would prefer to invite.
What about a Segway?
I think we need to reinstitute quartering as a form of execution, only with segways instead of horses. The guilty party will, of course, die of laughter rather than physical trauma. Much more humane that way…
Just in case you have to do ***SPOILER*** this ***SPOILER***, eh?
I lawled.
“Barbecue pork.”
the idea that something so delish and inherently good could tear people apart is genuinely upsetting to me.
The guilty party will, of course, die of laughter rather than physical trauma.
Dude. There’s a guy who rides a fucking Segway wearing a HELMET that I see on campus occasionally. Do you know how difficult it is not to laugh at that? Especially if you’re not expecting it?
My Google Image search for “bacon bikini” has gone into moderation so DKW will just have to do his own.
What about a Segway?
Oh, about 105 pounds…
“Barbecue pork.”
the idea that something so delish and inherently good could tear people apart is genuinely upsetting to me.
Perhaps they could plot some oppression and persecution over some corn bread and some variety of a sweet potato side dish?
Smut,
You mean this was NSFW by you?
Damn, your firewall is tighter than mine!
Also, too, the guy is always wearing some hideous plaid shirt in weird colors with very unflattering khakis. In other words, he looks like a guy who would ride a Segway. In a helmet. *snicker*
Damn, your firewall is tighter than mine!
That’s what she said.
Perhaps they could plot some oppression and persecution over some corn bread and some variety of a sweet potato side dish?
Well, God did tell Moses “I yam that which I yam”…
There’s a guy who rides a fucking Segway wearing a HELMET that I see on campus occasionally.
Please, PLEASE, tell me it has racing stripes.
Please, PLEASE, tell me it has racing stripes.
Do you know how disconcerting it is to hear one of those behind you and not realizing what the fuck it is until you actually see it? I have to look away before I laugh my ass off!
But I will check next time, just for you.
Please, PLEASE, tell me it has racing stripes.
So long as it’s not his underwear!
Poor guy. He actually kind of deserves to be laughed at. I mean, where is he going? It’s not like we have vast expanses of walkable areas here.
***SPOILER***
I always loved that I did not question whether SM did the stunt – no suspension of disbelief required. OTOH, I always hated that they used a Triumph for that scene. Just wrecked the whole movie for me.
There’s a guy who rides a fucking Segway wearing a HELMET that I see on campus occasionally
Maybe he took lessons at the Bush School of Segway?
I mean, where is he going?
To hell in a
hand basketsegway.ruled it, often brutally, for over half a millennium(6).
An interesting exercise; look at the Jews, of whom there were quite a few in Spain under Islamic rule. After the Reconquista brought back that most un-brutal Inquisition, they were given three choices; 1) leave, 2) convert or 3) die. Quite a few converted (or pretended to) and quite a few (including those who converted) died, but the interesting thing is that a huge part of them chose to leave and, when they did, to follow the brutal and savage Muslims to North Africa.
The Muslims weren’t perfect, very far from it and certainly not by modern standards, but it’s worth noting that as far as most Spanish Jews were concerned, they were a damn sight better than the screaming, bloodthirsty mob that had just retaken their homeland.
I always loved that I did not question whether SM did the stunt – no suspension of disbelief required.
Well, he was renown around Hollywood for driving too fast and always trying crazy stunts on or in vehicles, so you had that as background. Look at Bullitt or Getaway.
Wearing A Dark Covering That Conceals All But A Small Portion Of The Face Is Just An Average Day For The Goddamn Batman said,
I’m sure this has been said, but: win.
So long as it’s not his underwear!
DO NOT WANT.
I still can’t figure out where he’s going. It takes, at most, 25 minutes to walk from the far end of campus to the end of downtown. He can’t ride it on the street…maybe, like many of our fine citizens, he has a Rascal he switches into and rides IN THE FUCKING BIKE LANE?
What does it say about me that forswearing pork is, by far, what I would be least likely to do of the three?
I fucking can’t remember the name of the comedian, but there was this guy on Friday Night Standup who said he had given up on being a Black Muslim because you had to give up alcohol, pork, and white women, and “Pork doesn’t call you at three in the morning to tell you it’s horny.”
One thing that confuses me about the whole wingnut hatred of Islam (and I mean in that in a sincere way, not a snarky one) is that Islamic fundamentalists seem to have so much in common with Christian fundies. I mean, they’re basically two sides of the same coin. Why the hatred? Why the distrust
The narcissism of small differences.
Please, PLEASE, tell me it has racing stripes.
WINGS!!!
One thing that confuses me about the whole wingnut hatred of Islam (and I mean in that in a sincere way, not a snarky one) is that Islamic fundamentalists seem to have so much in common with Christian fundies. I mean, they’re basically two sides of the same coin. Why the hatred? Why the distrust
One of the most ham-handed attempts at mocking this was on Star Trek:
Nobody watchedEnterprise, when two planets were at war, not because of any substantive differences but because one planet believed that the universe was created in nine days, and the other in ten.It was creepy at points, as they had the whole suicide bomber thing counterbalanced with the “science solves nothing, only faith in the makers will bring knowledge” thing, and it did cross my mind “are they mocking madrassahs or home schooling?”
I bet if a bunch of fundies from each side got together, they’d find out how much they both hate gays and women. And then a real bond could be formed.
This has already happened in the international women’s rights scene. It’s fucking disgusting.
One of the most ham-handed attempts at mocking this was on Star Trek:Nobody watched Enterprise, when two planets were at war, not because of any substantive differences but because one planet believed that the universe was created in nine days, and the other in ten.
More ham-handed than TOS’s half-white/half-black versus half/black/half-white war? Starring, of course, the original Joker…
The narcissism of small differences.
Or, you know, the fact that Islam is practiced mostly by swarthy types…
WINGS!!!
Frickin’ LASERS.
More ham-handed than TOS’s half-white/half-black versus half/black/half-white war? Starring, of course, the original Joker…
Riddler, but I digress.
Yup. Worse than that.
Good to know. The comment section here has a pronounced whiff of crusty tubesock, dollar store perfume, and old-man bonch these days.
Fuck. Riddler. Rassin frassin drafting…
crusty tubesock
Not a band name…more of a pirate name, I think.
Big-endism vs Little-endism
And having read the thread, I now see others beat me to the “Islam in Spain = actually not so bad” point. Well done.
Or, you know, the fact that Islam is practiced mostly by swarthy types…
Odd, because one third of American baptists are black. You’d think they’d be cleaning they own house first.
Well, he was renown around Hollywood for driving too fast and always trying crazy stunts on or in vehicles, so you had that as background.
Well, that and that he was an avid biker. Check out …gimme a minit here…. yeah, On Any Sunday.
Look at Bullitt or Getaway. Long, long ago, I once stayed in on a beautiful Saturday afternoon, instead of going out as planned, because Bullitt came on the tube. “Cool,” I sed to mahseff. “It’s what, an hour or more into the film until the chase scene? I’ll watch until the chase scene.” Fucking network or station edited out the chase scene! I could not fucking believe it.
crusty tubesock
Not a band name…more of a pirate name, I think.
I was thinking afternoon cartoon, myself.
I still can’t figure out where he’s going. It takes, at most, 25 minutes to walk from the far end of campus to the end of downtown. He can’t ride it on the street…maybe, like many of our fine citizens, he has a Rascal he switches into and rides IN THE FUCKING BIKE LANE?
Some douche in a Segway passed me on an access road once. I had thought it was a moped and had gotten out of the way. When I realized it was a Segway I kicked that bicycle up into top gear and fucking SMOKED his ass.
I guess I owe him one for motivating my lazy behind?
Nahhh.
I bet if a bunch of fundies from each side got together, they’d find out how much they both hate gays and women. And then a real bond could be formed.
Mirror, mirror on the wall…
I mean, isn’t there a fair bit of self-loathing in fundy sects of all stripes. And seeing a big old ugly image that reminds you of yourself, well, ya gotta hate that, now dontcha?
Odd, because one third of American baptists are black. You’d think they’d be cleaning they own house first.
No. That’s totally different.
Odd, because one third of American baptists are black.
Tools of the white power structure. Only when they profess to follow the other Great
WhiteFather does it become subversive.Odd, because one third of American baptists are black. You’d think they’d be cleaning they own house first.
Ironically, Martin Luther King and most KKK members belonged to the same denomination (Southern Baptists). There’s often more differences within a religion than there are between religions.
I mean, isn’t there a fair bit of self-loathing in fundy sects of all stripes. And seeing a big old ugly image that reminds you of yourself, well, ya gotta hate that, now dontcha?
Add to that the idea of religion as ethnic identity. You know those people who bleat about how they’re Christians all the time but don’t seem to follow Christ’s teachings at all. The sort of people who’d be whatever the majority religion is in whatever country they were born into because it’s about group identity, not a theory of morals/ethics/theology.
The comment section here has a pronounced whiff of crusty tubesock, dollar store perfume, and old-man bonch these days.
Sorry. DKW’s mom finally got dial-up. And you forgot “desperate feminine hygiene spray.”
I think I covered that in ‘dollar store perfume’, unfortunately.
because it’s about group identity, not a theory of morals/ethics/theology.
Which, in turn, might explain the irrational need to be free from any restraints on what is commonly known as “individual rights.”
I think I covered that in ‘dollar store perfume’, unfortunately.
Oh. Come to think of it, that was covered in last month’s Allure under “Beauty Double-Duties!”
Fucking network or station edited out the chase scene! I could not fucking believe it.
WHAT?
That’s like scraping the smile off the Mona Lisa!
Or, you know, the fact that Islam is practiced mostly by swarthy types…
Oh. And not to mention that only 22 million of the world’s one billion Muslims are Middle Eastern. There’s that thought too.
Oh. And not to mention that only 22 million of the world’s one billion Muslims are Middle Eastern. There’s that thought too.
Like your average fucktarded fundamentalist Muslim-hater knows that? Most people don’t even know that Christianity and Islam are related.
I had thought it was a moped and had gotten out of the way.
They make that much noise?
Well, so much for my dreams of a squads of kamikaze Segway ninjas!
Most people don’t even know that Christianity and Islam are related.
For me, that’s usually the conversation stopper.
“Um, you DO know that Jesus is in the Koran, right? No? Maybe you should go read up a little.”
They make that much noise?
Not really. I can hear this dude’s over my iPod when he’s right behind me. They sound like golf carts. But I can see why you’d think it was a moped if you weren’t expecting it.
I think you’re all right. It still confuses me a little…but I think this may sum it up best:
Isn’t that kind of the same thing that drives so many wingnuts to knee-jerk be against even so many things that could benefit them? Because they’re “showing” us liberals?
The sort of people who’d be whatever the majority religion is in whatever country they were born into because it’s about group identity, not a theory of morals/ethics/theology.
Yep. In America, the religious right definitely has little or nothing to do with religion – it’s the last refuge of the Old South, white identity politics playing much more of a role than anything Teh Jesus ever preached.
I don’t know the Muslim world as well, but in a lot of ways, the Salafists seem to work pretty much like that too. You could apply the same lesson to more modern philosophies as well; Adam Smith and Karl Marx would both, I suspect, be tearing their hair out if they came back to life and saw the kinds of idiocies that have been perpetrated in their name by their “followers.”
One of the most ham-handed attempts at mocking this was on Star Trek:Nobody watched Enterprise, when two planets were at war, not because of any substantive differences but because one planet believed that the universe was created in nine days, and the other in ten.
More ham-handed than TOS’s half-white/half-black versus half/black/half-white war?
Wow. I quit watching Enterprise at all by season 2… it was so fucking boring, even more boring than trying to watch Transformers episodes as an adult (I could have sworn each 20 min ep was an hour long… gah.).
TNG tried ripping off TOS eps on purpose–and every attempt sucked. VOY ended up copying some TOS eps or at least episode titles (allegedly because Berman and Braga never watched TOS and didn’t realize what they were doing). They got some negative backlash. They titled an ep “Wink of an Eye” then had to change the title. I ended up seeing it because of the ruckus. It was stupid. The original one was stupid too, but it had a scene where the evil alien fly queen seduced Captain Kirk, so there’s that.
At least TNG tried ripping off good episodes. Let That Be Your Last Battlefield? Come on. At least the scenes where they superimpose real footage of real race riots was engagingly trippy. (TOS could be soooo trippy sometimes.)
So, did the Enterprise geeniuses ever try to remake “Catspaw” or “Spock’s Brain”? Never mind, the entire of Enterprise was “Spock’s Brain”. ‘Brain and brain, what is brain?!’ They brought Trek back for this? Exactly.
And that is something I only learned relatively recently. That would surely blow some wingnut minds…if they bothered to find it out.
“Um, you DO know that Jesus is in the Koran, right?
Liberal plant.
Didn’t Marx himself say “I am not a Marxist”?
It’s good the sociopaths have Rand now because nobody who actually reads Smith could imagine he’d be on their side.
Because they’re “showing” us liberals?
Or black people, or whoever else they feel is inferior. I think 98% of it is an attempt to feel superior to other human beings.
Wow. I quit watching Enterprise at all by season 2
DON’T JUDGE ME!
Actually, that particular episode was on HDNet yesterday and I was preparing to go out to lunch when it came on so I stayed with it.
Liberal plant.
The Conservative Koran Project is next on the wingnut agenda.
Wait, is that the one with Scott Bacula? I didn’t know there was more than one season. Or that anybody actually watched it.
So, did the Enterprise geeniuses ever try to remake “Catspaw” or “Spock’s Brain”?
Then you missed Archer battling the Nazis?
I’m not kidding.
And not to mention that only 22 million of the world’s one billion Muslims are Middle Eastern.
And how many Roman Catholics are
RomansItalians?There is an ugly element of ethnic supremacy to Islam. Various populations have resisted or subverted this notion, but it’s still there. Like KJVist Southern Baptists who think English was good enough for Jesus, Arab supremacy, including the supremacy of the Arab language, is suffused through Islam. (If Arabic was good enough for Allah…)
T&U, I absolutely agree. I think that’s what drives so much anti-choice fervor. It’s the idea that “I’m not that slutty, lazy, irresponsible slattern. I would NEVER have an abortion.I’d never put myself in the POSITION to have an abortion.” *sigh*
Yes. I was reading all the comments re: that recent K-Lo blog…and you all immediately picked up on how sad and self-loathing she seemed (or was that on Pandagon? I dunno…y’all know all about K-Lo and her anti-sex rants here, anyway.) Self-loathing does seem to be at the root of so much of the wingnut pathology.
Like your average fucktarded fundamentalist Muslim-hater knows that? Most people don’t even know that Christianity and Islam are related.
Indeed. I once had an IMDB “moderate Democrat” bitch to me that he was always being held up by politically correct liberals at airports while “towelheads and dotheads” got to go through scot-free and they should be the ones searched, not him.
(A tip; “Dothead” = Hindu = religion that’s even lower in al-Qaeda’s list of vermin than Judaism or Christianity, and whose members they were blowing up long before 9/11. There’s a damn good reason to let those “dotheads” through – they’re about as likely to join al-Qaeda as Jews are to join the Nazi Party.
This is why racial profiling will never work. Even if you accept that it works in theory, in practice, the people who want it are always far too stupid and racist to know how to do it with any efficiency).
Then you missed Archer battling the Nazis?
Far be it from me to reveal the spoiler of the entire series, but let’s just say that it probably inspired LOST’s finale.
*sniff* *sniff*
*sniffsniff*
Needs more humourless dildo.
Then you missed Archer battling the Nazis?
They did this in VOY too (except it had something to do with the Holodeck and Hirogen… my brain hurts) but still: ugh.
Tempted to make Quantum Leap jokes but I think Enterprise ruined Quantum Leap for me. Permanently.
Also, fucking fan
girlsgrown women ruined Scott Bakula for me. They claimed he gets a permawoody when on camera and there were supposedly photos circulated with Scott prime poking out. Rule 34 and all, but some bint at a Star Trek convention (yes, shame) had to gush all this to me in person.(yes, I’ve been to comic book conventions TOO. confidential to MAD Magazine: comic book convention and Star Trek convention demographics are NOT the same, causing your jokes to fall flat and lifeless from the page. you’re welcome)
he was always being held up by politically correct liberals at airports
Happens to me all the time. I figure it’s TSA’s way of ensuring racial profiling can’t be proved.
“Look! We pulled over Wonder Bread over there, so it ain’t like we’re singling you out, Raheem!”
Needs more humourless dildo.
Just go back a page to gaze upon the glory that is Ross.
Ironically, Martin Luther King and most KKK members belonged to the same denomination (Southern Baptists).
I don’t know about that… I seem to recall that the whole raison d’etre for the Southern Baptist convention was the Baptists’ 19th Century stance on slavery. Sure, MLK may have been a southern Baptist, but I don’t think he was a Southern Baptist. Being an apatheist myself, I can’t be arsed looking it up.
Happens to me all the time. I figure it’s TSA’s way of ensuring racial profiling can’t be proved.
Huh, you too? They told me it was because I had a hyphenated name. But maybe it’s because the CIA mind rays picked up the fact that I’m a fan of The Boondocks. They know all!
They did this in VOY too (except it had something to do with the Holodeck and Hirogen… my brain hurts) but still: ugh.
There was some matter with a race called the Zindi being aided by a race from the 29th Century, so this other race from the 29th Centu–
Um, you know what? Nevermind. You get the drift.
Indeed. I once had an IMDB “moderate Democrat” bitch to me that he was always being held up by politically correct liberals at airports while “towelheads and dotheads” got to go through scot-free and they should be the ones searched, not him.
Why are people so fucking ignorant? My assumption is that he also put Sikhs in the “towelhead” department?*
I never got this slur, anyway…does this refer to the keffiyeh? Most Muslims don’t even wear them.
This is why racial profiling will never work. Even if you accept that it works in theory, in practice, the people who want it are always far too stupid and racist to know how to do it with any efficiency
There is an ugly element of ethnic supremacy to Islam. Various populations have resisted or subverted this notion, but it’s still there. Like KJVist Southern Baptists who think English was good enough for Jesus, Arab supremacy, including the supremacy of the Arab language, is suffused through Islam. (If Arabic was good enough for Allah…)
Actually, theologically it makes sense. Learning original VIIth century Arabic may be a pain in the ass, but it’s a hell of a lot more logical than the hillbillies you mention who still think Jesus spoke in the original King James.
But you’re right about the element of ethnic supremacy. The only thing is that it’s not just Arabs – Iranians, Afghans and others also conflate Islam with their particular ethnic identity. It’s like the old European order in which each country was firmly convinced that Jesus was with them and against all the other Christian countries around them.
Then you missed Archer battling the Nazis?
Far be it from me to reveal the spoiler of the entire series, but let’s just say that it probably inspired LOST’s finale.
Heh, lol, if so it was a case of “crib from this, nobody watched this so they’ll never know” kind of like when the hack composer for STIV reused his LOTR Animated theme music (trufax!!).
But this William of Occam zombie keeps saying something about In…da Jonezzz Eeeenda Joooonez. What could that mean? Taste for Bollywood?
Isn’t that kind of the same thing that drives so many wingnuts to knee-jerk be against even so many things that could benefit them? Because they’re “showing” us liberals?
That’s one aspect of it. The other was summed up perfectly by Moe, after finding that the giant meteor bearing down on the Earth had burned to the size of a pebble. He said “Let’s go burn down the observatory so this never happens again!” And the angry mob follows him.
That might have been the most deft, if concise, summation of wingnuttery I’ve ever seen.
Also, fucking fangirls ruined Scott Bakula for me. They claimed he gets a permawoody when on camera and there were supposedly photos circulated with Scott prime poking out. Rule 34 and all, but some bint at a Star Trek convention (yes, shame) had to gush all this to me in person.
Now you’ve ruined Quantum Leap AND Scott Bakula for me. (Not that I gave a shit about Scott Bakula past the age of about 14).
I don’t know about that… I seem to recall that the whole raison d’etre for the Southern Baptist convention was the Baptists’ 19th Century stance on slavery. Sure, MLK may have been a southern Baptist, but I don’t think he was a Southern Baptist. Being an apatheist myself, I can’t be arsed looking it up.
Hmm, wikipedia lists him as just “Baptist” with no qualifiers, so you could be right.
I actually think that what drives wingnuttiness is not that they feel people are inferior to them, it’s that they desperately WANT to feel superior to other people. I think the idea that a level playing fields (re: education, job opportunities) may prove that white folks aren’t special snowflakes is genuinely upsetting to them. And I think their hatred of liberals actually stems from a nagging feeling that they may, in fact, be inferior to us. It bugs them that they think we might be funnier, smarter, better-educated, wittier, hipper, more worldly, more sophisticated. We are. But rather than trying to learn or better themselves (which, honest-to-gosh I’m ALWAYS trying to do) they just try to flip the world. So that their narrow little worldview is actually the superior one.
It’s like the old European order in which each country was firmly convinced that Jesus was with them and against all the other Christian countries around them.
And we could compare the dueling caliphates to the Avignon papacy and eras of anti-popes (remember, anti-popes are only declared anti-popes in retrospect) … orrrr to the division of the Mormons creating the LDS and Old Mormon Church. Less about ethnicity, more about power struggle.
Good point, though. The trial of Joan of Arc (god is with *us*, not *you*) is a great example.
Liberal plant.
Is that arugula, or cilantro?
I actually think that what drives wingnuttiness is not that they feel people are inferior to them, it’s that they desperately WANT to feel superior to other people
Yeah, I think that’s a better way of putting it.
>It bugs them that they think we might be funnier, smarter, better-educated, wittier, hipper, more worldly, more sophisticated.
More to the point, they think we’re laughing at them. Both when we are… and when we aren’t. They can’t distinguish between playful laughter and mean laughter so they assumed they’re being ridiculed. Not speculation–Science™!
HA!!!! Don’t you feel this is being played out in Texas? With those school board people who don’t like US history, so they are just going to by god rewrite it?
Arugula is so 1990’s. I’m sure the coastal elites have moved on to something else by now.
Arugula is so 1990’s. I’m sure the coastal elites have moved on to something else by now.
Microgreens!
With those school board people who don’t like US history, so they are just going to by god rewrite it?
I’m sure that’s true as well, but my personal impression watching the video was “I never heard of it, so it’s not important.” I can’t bear the thought that someone’s better educated than meeeee.
Yes. Plus…I don’t think they understand that when we support things like universal health care, it’s with the knowledge that it will benefit even THEM. And that we’re ok with that. Because even though someone who is a complete shit might benefit from something, that in the end, it’s a good thing. It’s for the greater good.
And also…not everything is a goddamn contest. If the world dies, every liberal and conservative will die with it.
The original one was stupid too, but it had a scene where the evil alien fly queen seduced Captain Kirk, so there’s that.
I had to look this up… I am totally pissed that it wasn’t an actual bug-girl, because I always used to joke that they had episodes in which he’d bang the hot green aliens, but they never showed him sticking his putz in, say, an immense rugose cone alien .
Pupienus–a sombering post. I knew about I guess two of those murders but did not know there were so many of them. Shameful.
And yes, our wingnuts really ARE that stupid!!!
And also…not everything is a goddamn contest. If the world dies, every liberal and conservative will die with it.
But Al Gore will be PISSED!!!
WOLVERINES!!!!!!!!!
Because even though someone who is a complete shit might benefit from something, that in the end, it’s a good thing. It’s for the greater good.
And also…not everything is a goddamn contest. If the world dies, every liberal and conservative will die with it.
They have the emotional and moral maturity of 4-year-olds. They’ll never get it.
This is something I can’t relate to…at all. As someone who never graduated college, I go out into the world knowing that every day I may bump up against someone who–while not innately smarter than I–will probably just be goshdarnit more knowledgeable than I am re: certain subjects. (This blog is a perfect example of that. I learn something new every day just reading the comments. For realz! Especially Chris! He’s my history guru!) But rather than finding this scary or bad, I just go out there expecting that I’ll probably learn something new every day. And I’m ok with that.
I’m not that slutty, lazy, irresponsible slattern. I would NEVER have an abortion.I’d never put myself in the POSITION to have an abortion.
And when I DO have an abortion, MINE is justified. Those other women’s aren’t.
More SCIENCE. (Sadly.)
*hope this is the correct link. too lazy and all that jazz.
More to the point, they think we’re laughing at them. Both when we are… and when we aren’t. They can’t distinguish between playful laughter and mean laughter so they assumed they’re being ridiculed. Not speculation–Science™!
They also can’t tell why we’re laughing at them. Here in DC, we do make fun of Virginia girls, but it’s not because we think they’re hicks or ignorant or poor or even stupid – it’s because they’re so, fucking, pretentious. One of the guys who was being trained with us at the U.S. Census Bureau was a bouncer at a local nightclub and loved recounting what a pain in the ass they could be;
“Are you eighteen? … Then you can’t get in.”
“Do you know who my father is?”
“… No, and I don’t really give a damn.”
“My father owns the biggest car dealership in Richmond!!!”
“Well honey, my father owns the smallest house in Cleveland, and you still can’t get in. Have a nice evening.”
… and so on and so forth, all of which probably made into onto some online blog about the rudeness and elitism of us bastard city-slickers.
I know. It makes me feel really sad and tired sometimes. My mom and I get into long conversations about this. It’s a depressing subject.
Frisee is the new arugula.
“And when I DO have an abortion, MINE is justified. ”
yes!! Exactly.
“Do you know who my father is?”
I had a friend who bounced at an Upper East Side place, and he beat the crap out of two bodyguards when a U.S. Senator tried to cut the line.
He walked into the dojo limping the next day, and I asked him what happened- he twisted his ankle running down the street to beat on one of the guys some more. The best line of the narrative (delivered in a thick Slavic accent)- “He runs out into street, and he thinks I will not chase him!”
“My father owns the biggest car dealership in Richmond!!!”
Well, as an ignorant, poor hick, I have to say that’s pretty fucking stupid.
On the MLK-Southern Baptist issue, King was definitely not a member of the Southern Baptist Convention. I doubt that throughout his life there was a single openly “Negro” member of the SBC.
The main Baptist groups are the Southern Baptist Convention, the American Baptist Convention (essentially the Northern, white Baptists and usually theologically and politically liberal), and the National Baptist Convention (essentially the African American Baptists). Dr. King and his father were members of the National Baptisits. Bear in mind though that until the 1980s the conventions really just funded and ran the seminaries and didn’t check the theological credentials of their members.
This is something I can’t relate to…at all. As someone who never graduated college, I go out into the world knowing that every day I may bump up against someone who–while not innately smarter than I–will probably just be goshdarnit more knowledgeable than I am re: certain subjects. (This blog is a perfect example of that. I learn something new every day just reading the comments. For realz! Especially Chris! He’s my history guru!) But rather than finding this scary or bad, I just go out there expecting that I’ll probably learn something new every day. And I’m ok with that.
Pleased and honored by the (undeserved) flattery.
Also thumbs up on the “innately smarter” vs. “more knowledgeable re: certain subjects” thing. E.G. I don’t know shit about fixing cars and will kneel in amazement before the people who do it for a living. That doesn’t mean either him or me is smarter than the other, just that we chose to be interested in different things. (Another point of disagreement with the right, which thinks people’s success or failure can only be owed to their own abilities and not, for example, a choice to work as an underpaid inner city teacher because you think it’s important).
This kid I worked with whose father owned a jewelry store tried that whole “Do you know who I am???” shit a few years ago. That’s just embarrassing, especially considering the fact that he probably wouldn’t begin to break the top twenty list of the richest people in town.
I had a friend who bounced at an Upper East Side place, and he beat the crap out of two bodyguards when a U.S. Senator tried to cut the line.
He walked into the dojo limping the next day, and I asked him what happened- he twisted his ankle running down the street to beat on one of the guys some more. The best line of the narrative (delivered in a thick Slavic accent)- “He runs out into street, and he thinks I will not chase him!”
That, is AWESOME. Epic win to your friend.
Frisee is the new arugula.
Nuh-uh, lamb’s quarters, harvested from the vacant lot next to the yoga studio.
Who’s got two thumbs and whose experiments just kicked a whole lotta ass? Oh yeah, this guy! Best results yet for our stuff!
Not that I will get a damn thing for it personally, just the thrill of showing up some Ph.D.’s. Shoulda let me do my thing 2 years ago.
Now, which corner will be the best for begging change from passing cars tonight…
This blog is a perfect example of that. I learn something new every day just reading the comments.
Me too. And I love it. I get super bored if I just go over the same things again and again.
But then again, I had to train myself to remove my ego from the idea of being wrong. I learned to do that because I had a science education and there’s nothing sadder than some elder, once-eminent scientist doggedly sticking to the old school when all evidence has crushed it.
That, is AWESOME. Epic win to your friend.
Seconded. I hope he got hazard pay.
“My father owns the biggest car dealership in Richmond!!!”
“I dont think my father, the inventor of Toaster Strudel, would be too pleased to hear about this”
<i.(Another point of disagreement with the right, which thinks people’s success or failure can only be owed to their own abilities and not, for example, a choice to work as an underpaid inner city teacher because you think it’s important).
oh [insert whichever god would offend you most here], that’s me and every libertarian … so I CHOSE to go into public service and that apparently makes me a GIANT ASSHOLE who deserves to have shitty things happen to me
and by “public service” I don’t mean “married money so I can be a sleazy politician”
Seconded. I hope he got hazard pay.
He was in his glory- another friend clipped out a NY Post gossip column which had a blurb about him chucking out the son of some CEO, in which he was described as a “big Ukrainian musclehead”. I gave him the article, and he read aloud, “big Ukrainian motherfucker… at least they do not know who I am.”
He spoke seven languages, and taught PE and Eastern philosophy- musclehead indeed!
Bear in mind though that until the 1980s the conventions really just funded and ran the seminaries and didn’t check the theological credentials of their members.
Yeah, my understanding is that the Baptists in general used to have a lot of theological freedom (and “freedom of conscience”) until the SBC started their purity drives, beginning with their own professors of religion and moving on down…
Prelude to the current Republican party?
I had to look this up… I am totally pissed that it wasn’t an actual bug-girl, because I always used to joke that they had episodes in which he’d bang the hot green aliens, but they never showed him sticking his putz in, say, an immense rugose cone alien .
Now that is what I call awesome. Yeah, TOS was pretty tame in terms of who Kirk would bang. He never even put moves on any green alien chicks. (Seriously. That was Jeffrey Hunter.) I think the closest he got was Shahna, who had green hair.
Still, Trek gets props for the time Kirk kissed Uhura (and not even willingly, that’s the funny part about it) causing all of Teh South to get an immediate attack of the vapors. What’s even funnier is that this is part of a scene where half-naked Spock (involuntarily) menaces half-naked Nurse Chapel with a hot poker (not the euphemism kind, the cattle brand kind) but a brief kiss is what got the censors’ panties in a bunch.
America: will probably require another 100 years of therapy.
(and not even willingly, that’s the funny part about it)
You know those rednecks were fappin’ something fierce in private, ‘cos as Sen. Al Franken, as Strom Thurmond, used to say, “The pecker knows no bigotry!”
It’s funny how no one ever names their kid Torquemada anymore.
Tomás de Torquemada. He is honored by millions.
a scene where half-naked Spock (involuntarily) menaces half-naked Nurse Chapel with a hot poker
He was only re-enacting the Wittgenstein / Popper confrontation.
It’s funny how no one ever names their kid Torquemada anymore.
It’s a wetback name. He was probably a welfare chiseler.
Fuck. Riddler. Rassin frassin drafting
You know, if you outsourced that work to zombizzles, you would have time to spell check your blogging….
Actually, that particular episode was on HDNet yesterday and I was preparing to go out to lunch when it came on so I stayed with it.
Wow, I think that’s actually worse than admitting you were watching it as it came out. I hope you were ingesting or injecting some mind-altering substances at that time, for the sake of your mental sanity.
Either that, or you have some seriously strong zen. I mean, like whoa. That is some powerful shit.
He was only re-enacting the Wittgenstein / Popper confrontation.
Okay, now that made me laugh so hard I snorted.
Yes! And people who are the least bit handy just blow my mind.
And you should be commended. I do think it takes a special kind of person to embrace the idea that yes, sometimes YOU ARE JUST WRONG. Of course it always sucks when you are, but best just acknowledge it and get it out of the way, I say.
Also, re: something others have touched on in this thread…don’t you find that so many wingnuts define success as something that can ONLY be measure in monetary terms? For instance, you could be some amazing teacher or artist or whatever…but if you don’t make a shitload of money, that means you are failure. What? I’m sorry, but that is madness.
As long as you realise that none of what you pointed out matters, that McCarthy’s take will become objective reality by sheer force of wignut will, aided by a left represented by impotent bloggers like us and craven pussies who’ll let them frame the debate. As long as you realise that despite your delineation of the truth, it is and will be an unavoidable fact that THE LIBERALS are building a 4,000 mile high mosque bang on top of the imprint of the Twin Towers. With a bronze statue of Muhammad at the front. Taking a great big shit.
don’t you find that so many wingnuts define success as something that can ONLY be measure in monetary terms?
I always suppose it’s because they themselves made a decision long ago to sell their soul for money, but considering that some of them are pathetic failures, it seems like sucking plutocrat cock seems to work just as well.
I think acknowledging that people who buck this demand are people of worth would introduce too much cognitive dissonance into their world.
And some of them probably just have a personality disorder.
With a bronze statue of Muhammad at the front. Taking a great big shit.
Given that it would piss off everyone I dislike, but provide endless amusement to myself and my friends, bring on the shitting-Mo-colossus. (It’s a Rodin tribute! Really!*)
*(no, not really)
And also…not everything is a goddamn contest. If the world dies, every liberal and conservative will die with it.
I find this effect most striking in the discussions about global warming. Sometimes I just want to reach through the internet and smack people and say, “Don’t you get it? If we’re right, we don’t win the election or get rich. ALL DIE. This is not a political issue. It is not an economic issue. The laws of physics DO NOT GIVE A SHIT about your duties to your constituents in the coal mining industry.”
There seems to be a genuine inability, not just among the wingnut deniers, but even in the media to understand this fundamental point. We don’t get to vote on the effect of carbon dioxide. It is not subject to opinion polling.
I guess it’s all part of the “we create reality” mindset. There are people who think they can make the world conform to their vision of it, and because it works with the law, and politics, and the media and the economy, they think it should work for this, too.
BTW, it’s “provocatrice” (“provocatrix” if you are a pretentious anglophone)
don’t you find that so many wingnuts define success as something that can ONLY be measure in monetary terms?
Objectivism.
I mean, what is Andy thinking? That women who walk by the community center will be overcome by some mysterious juju and will involuntarily don burqas, forswear pork products and join harems at the next available opportunity?
“Thinking” and “Andy McCarthy” are two terms that cannot possibly exist in the same sentence.
Yeah, TOS was pretty tame in terms of who Kirk would bang. He never even put moves on any green alien chicks.
Ahem: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_XNPD380IpBQ/SHI8P0HeUMI/AAAAAAAABvw/rq4IdSyGDgo/s400/P13_7_YvonneCraigMarta.jpg
True, she put the moves on him, but still..
I also agree re: pretentious assholes in DC. I found a tuxedo and a winning smile got me in some cool parties and some hot rich-bitch azz in the 80’s. In DC it was easy to deal with the chuckleheads, they had no real substance to them- all bluster and ego. As far as the simple Southern folks’ intellectual aversions- I worked in a shop in FL (central) where it was “spics this and wetbacks that and them beaners”, then the Mexican migrant guys came in to fix their trucks and the hot-of-the-boat Puerto Ricans came in needing repairs, and I got all the deals because-i spoke decent Spanish. They used to bum-rush them out of there. After the first incident, I got quizzed like- “is your family Mexarican or something? Yew don’t look them people! Where’d you larn that kinda talk?” Guess I’m just a goddam elitist. The service manger (Bubba- I kid you not) was visibly upset that not only did I speak Spanish, but Portuguese (not that good, but good enough for the Brazilians), a little Italian and some workable German. Stunned and amazed, but they steadfastly held that they were better’n them wetbacks!
If only this had been two different commenters. Sigh.
That’s my default assumption until I have reliable & consistent evidence to the contrary. What really burns my ass is not knowing that I’m dead-wrong about something … or someone else pwning me on my fuckup before I can do it first.
Not knowing things is unavoidable – barring the Brain In A Jar Scenario, I’m just not going to live long enough to know half of what I’d like to know – getting them wrong over & over when there’s an easy way to learn the truth, not so much.
Ahem: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_XNPD380IpBQ/SHI8P0HeUMI/AAAAAAAABvw/rq4IdSyGDgo/s400/P13_7_YvonneCraigMarta.jpg
drool
True, she put the moves on him, but still..
ah ja, she was totally insane.
good question would be, what is the weirdest alien Kirk ever got it on with… and I mean actually got it on with. I’m thinking of that shapeshifter from STVI–should the movies count?
Did anyone else take the Kirk vs. Kirk scene in STVI as being kind of meta?
As far as the simple Southern folks’ intellectual aversions- I worked in a shop in FL (central) where it was “spics this and wetbacks that and them beaners”, then the Mexican migrant guys came in to fix their trucks and the hot-of-the-boat Puerto Ricans came in needing repairs, and I got all the deals because-i spoke decent Spanish. They used to bum-rush them out of there. After the first incident, I got quizzed like- “is your family Mexarican or something? Yew don’t look them people! Where’d you larn that kinda talk?” Guess I’m just a goddam elitist.
Ayup. They’d rather shoot themselves in the foot than admit there was anything wrong with the way they do things. Not all Southerners are like this, mind.
Man, I have a coworker whose name is Luis who freaked when I (not knowing his preference) actually pronounced it that way instead of Lewis. I grew up on Sesame Street, dammit! Okay, fine, Lewis it is! Yeesh! But I guess I have to pity the kind of attitude he was receiving to end up feeling that way about it.
I do think it takes a special kind of person to embrace the idea that yes, sometimes YOU ARE JUST WRONG.
That was not me who said those things that now turn out to be wrong. It was my evil twin.
It was my evil twin.
How did the two of you decide which was the good twin?
Thnx for the baconkini image searches.
How did the two of you decide which was the good twin?
Why does there have to be a good twin? If both twins are evil, either one could legitimately refer to the other as “my evil twin”.
Did anyone else take the Kirk vs. Kirk scene in STVI as being kind of meta?
Oh hell yeah, intentionally so. I mean, come on:
Real Kirk: I can’t believe I kissed you!
Fake Kirk (a shape-shifting alien who had just passed him/herself off as a beautiful woman): Must have been your lifelong ambition!
If only this had been two different commenters. Sigh.
Does it help or hurt that I was joking? I suppose I could have gone with a Gene Rodenberry death joke to prove my nerd cred…
I also just found out that Quantum Leap is on Hulu and Netflix streaming. I haven’t started it yet because I won’t be able to STOP.
I suppose I could have gone with a Gene Rodenberry death joke to prove my nerd cred
You crapped out there when you hated on the Beatles.
You crapped out there when you hated on the Beatles.
*sigh* I never “hated” on the Beatles. In fact, I was just listening to Revolver the other day…can’t I be mostly ambivalent?
can’t I be mostly ambivalent?
Either you’re with us, or you’re with Creed.
Either you’re with us, or you’re with Creed.
Whyyyyyyyyyy does everyone always make me choose??? I like being all alone in my special, nuanced place!
I like being all alone in my special, nuanced place!
Oh, I see! So you “like” being “different”, huh?
Oh, I see! So you “like” being “different”, huh?
Nah. I’m not really *that* immature. I just hate it when people force me to make a choice.
1. BK opens in lower Manhattan.
2. BK takes over Whole Foods.
3. Forced burger-feeding begins.