Have Pun, Will Babble
His underpants a notorious victim of 9/11, Dennis Miller demonstrated years ago that a tool and his funny are soon parted. He probably still gets other gigs, but now Miller is most frequently seen matching wits with the likes of Bill O’Reilly, about whom Han Solo, or perhaps it was Al Franken, once said, ‘Let the Wookiee win.’
At any rate, apparently dissatisfied with Barbara Walters’ ‘10 Most Fascinating People of 2009‘ revealed Wednesday, Miller went on O’Reilly’s show to name his own:
My top three fascinating people — my top three fascinating people this year are Ayn Rand, because I think she’s at the front of an objectivist movement that’s coming in this country. It’s exhibited through No. 2 on my list, which is John Q. Public, as exhibited by these people at the tea party. And the No. 1 fascinating person to me, as it is every year, is the American man and woman in our military forces who afford us the opportunity to sit back here and have capricious endeavors like top 10 lists at the end of the year.
To recap, Miller’s ‘top three fascinating people’ of 2009 are a dead woman, everybody and soldiers. And here we didn’t think it was possible to outdo Time’s ridiculous 2006 Person of the Year issue. But Miller’s effort — essentially ‘You plus you other guys and also some corpse’ — would appear to do the trick.
Finally, though neither made his own list, Miller also finds Nancy Pelosi fascinating ‘without being fascinating at all’ and admires Tyler Perry because ‘he swims upstream against that rap culture’ — sort of like a salmon going to spawn, only instead of water, the opposing current is made up of things that make white people uncomfortable, and instead of the salmon being Tyler Perry, it’s Dennis Miller.
I will give him that the teabaggers were pretty “fascinating” this past summer.
In his defense, this is currently Miller’s only way of dealing with his constant, nightly dream that he’s swimming in a stream of handsome young black men in order to, um, ‘spawn’.
Ayn Rand, because I think she’s at the front of an objectivist movement
Strapped to the grille and bumper like an old teddy bear.
“Everyone who has ever died” just missed the list at #4.
In a related note, “Name a Dead Person” is a great party game (no repeats, penalties for naming someone who’s not actually dead).
Tyler Perry lives such a hard life, what with being paid millions and millions of dollars to finally make black pop cinema close enough to minstrel shows for white people not to complain.
Also, per Miller’s Law, that reference to something that happened a hundred years ago makes me Boy-Prince of the Geniuses. Huzzah!!
Dennis Miller, the punch line to a long and unfunny joke.
Fascinating, appalling, those are synonyms, right?
Ayn Rand, because I think she’s at the front of an objectivist movement that’s coming in this country
You’d think zombie Ayn Rand’s work would display more rigor. Yes it’s a repeat, BITE ME.
Oh, I totally missed it: Tyler Perry isn’t in this list because Miller will be around to writing a separate but equal list for coloreds any day now.
Ayn Rand, because I think she’s at the front of an objectivist movement that’s coming in this country
That movement came already, and spent itself all over the global economy, leaving quite a mess for the rest of us to clean up after. Not enough kleenex in the world.
Sadly, No!
Barbara Walters interviewing dead people would be a compelling show.
A fascinating show, even.
It’s a bit odd for Miller to be lauding someone on the basis of them “swim(ming) upstream against the culture” when the reason he’s only marginally employable these days is that he, himself, did the exact opposite. Quick, Dennis, what’s a really long and obscure synonym for “ironic” that’s sure to sail over the heads of your Fox News audience?
Dehumanizing the troops!!!
“And the No. 1 fascinating person to me, as it is every year, is the American man and woman in our military forces who afford us the opportunity to sit back here and have capricious endeavors like top 10 lists at the end of the year.”
I think “capricious endeavers like top 10 lists” came after “mushroom cloud” and before”Al Qaida is in leage with Saddam” as a justification for the war in Iraq. Does anyone else remember the post 9/11 rallying cry “They hate us for our top ten lists!”?
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I was really diappointed when I watched The Net that Dennis Miller was the only visible boob.
Garfield Without Garfield
Someone needs teh Ex-Lax.
Barbara Walters interviewing dead people would be a compelling show.
The good folks at appleactionnews could put something together right away.
I think even I’ve got a higher Q rating than Dennis Miller…
The great high Lord Earl of Monckton calls youths fighting for climate change policy in Copenhagen “Hitler Youth”.
The Discount Earl of Monk’s Tongue is correct.
You know who else would have organized groups of young people together to support global environmental policies? Yup. Hitler.
You know most times you can safely assume wingnut didn’t list Jesus or Reagan on their list because of the whole dead thing- but here I have to ask- what’s Dennis Miller have against Christ and Ron-Ron
Business update, Sadlies – the start-up funds have been secured!
Also, I started my mini-job at Hallmark this morning. I think it will be ok; the manager has an appropriately sardonic attitude towards the merchandise. Now, depending on how long it is before the business starts kicking ass…I might only be there for 6 weeks – 2 months…but for now, it’s just some money that I wouldn’t be making otherwise.
Ayn Rand, because I think she’s at the front of an objecti
vistonable movement that’s coming in this country.Now, isn’t that better?
“Big ups” to commie atheist for pointing out that the Objectivist movement bears and inordinate amount of responsibility for tanking the world economy.
Hitler’s syphilis-ridden dreams almost came true. How could it happen? By taking control of the media. An entire country was led by a lunatic…
We must protect our First Amendment, before sick dreams become law.
Nobody made fun of Hitler??!
BTW, B4, I was unable to re-arrange the Snowbabies to simulate sex…because they keep them in a locked case.
Mull that one over, peeps. There are actually individuals soft enough in the head that they would risk arrest in order to add to their collection of Snowbabies.
You know who else tried to shout down climate change deniers in his youth?
The Pope that’s who.
…the Objectivist movement bears and inordinate amount of responsibility…
Are they like the Bad News Bears? Or…those other kind of bears?
Perry Farrell said
Ah, Perry. It’s been all downhill for you since “Nothing’s Shocking.” Not to say that it’s been bad, just downhill from that particular peak.
Army of Two!
I think he meant “Objectivist movement + Bears = Inordinate Amount of Responsibility” Have you ever seen a bear go Galt? It aint a pretty site.
I’ve said it once and I’ll say it again; Ayn Rand’s objectivism is best savored when you’re living at home and your parents are paying for everything.
I actually think he was talking about the Chicago Bears
Army of Two!
John and Jane Q. Private?
Does a bear go Galt in the woods?
Does a bear go Galt in the woods?
What’s more, does the Pope Galt in a bear’s hat?
“I actually think he was talking about the Chicago Bears.”
While it is true that a football team made up of Objectivists would require an inordinate amount of effort to acheive a winning record what with everyone looking out for only themselves, but having said that, I still think he was talking about grizzlies.
‘You plus you other guys and also some corpse’
Priceless snark.
Does a Galt bear make an Objectivist movement in the woods?
If Dennis Miller makes a joke and nobody is there to hear it, is it still not funny?
The Objectivist Movement Bears Go To Copenhagen:
He’s right you know. Don’t those sound just like laws passed by the current Congress? Sigh, if only we still had the good, pre-Orwellian nightmare days of the Bush-GOP 2002 – 2006 triumvirate with such plain, common sense bills with simple names like THE PATRIOT ACT AGAINST THE AL QA’IDA LOVING 5TH COLUMNISTS WHO WOULD DARE STAND IN THE WAY OF DEAR LEADER BUSH JR and the Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003.
Hopefully the star power here can finally pull Fox Business out of the ratings gutter since nobody ever watches the liberal stuff on all the other networks any how.
Bears are nature’s Objectivists.
i would like to name dennis miller as one of america’s most fascinating people as well, since he swims upstream against that comedy culture.
Does a bare mistress shit in the Tiger Woods?
OM is the new BM
“The “Preservation of Livelihood Law.” The “Equalization of Opportunity Law.” The “Steel Unification Plan.”
Don’t these sound like laws passed by the current Congress? …
Er No. SATSQ
Don’t these sound like laws passed by the current Congress?
What is this idiot talking about? All laws sound like that.
Oh, and
when I begin my new career
Meet my new career, same as the old career: being a glibertard on teh Teevee. This time without the pretense of “journalism.
Good to see this douche finally found his true home.
There was an extra quotation mark there somewhere, I just know it. FYWP!
Dennis Miller is the world’s oldest baby boomer.
Its funny if he’s out in the woods “objectifying” or whatever, and tree falls on him.
You know who else passed laws which had names? Yup. That’s right. Hitler.
And now, it’s exactly the same, except it’s Black Hitler, so it’s now against the law to criticize him.
And you know who passed laws against criticizing him? Hitler.
“Its funny if he’s out in the woods “objectifying” or whatever, and tree falls on him.”
I suspect that no one would care
But what about the poor tree?
Obama has a dog. Hitler had a dog. Coincidence?
How to people manage the self-hatred involved in being a poor objectivist anyway.
Fxd. Objectively speaking.
Does a bare mistress shit in the Tiger Woods?
Do you know who ELSE liked bare, shitting mistresses?
“But what about the poor tree?”
If the tree is poor, its its own damn fault for not working harder or being born into the right family.
A Fundy woman was showing her little girl pictures of the early Christians being eaten by lions. The little girl stared, then started sniffling & crying. “Look, Mommy!” she said “That poor little lion over there isn’t gettin’ any!”
I tell this to my religious friends all the time, and now I have no religious friends.
The prelutskification of Dennis Miller is complete.
David Vitter?
“a tool and his funny are soon parted.”
/applause
Obama has never heard of me, and his approval is dropping because of it.
“Do you know who ELSE liked bare, shitting mistresses?”
Ayn Rand?
Stupid troll is stupid.
Thanks, BBBB.
You’d think that, when as fervent a Rand acolyte as Mr. Andrea Mitchell…er, Alan Greenspan admits that it was all bullshit and that we’re all screwed as a result of his hero worship of a misanthropic Russian harpy, the rest of the fucking Objectivist Bears would just start shutting the fuck up.
Also.
Hitler had a dog? Must consult teh google….
Wow. “Blondi” . Who knew?
You gotta love how mad Ayn Rand makes liberals–she just drives you guys nuts. I love it.
O.K. stupid troll, I’ll feed you. In what way shape or manner is Obama violating the U.S. Constitution. Please cite Con Law and not something you pulled out of Glenn Beck’s ass.
HITLER, of course. ALLEGEDLY. I think that makes Hitler worse than Hitler.
Its funny if he’s out in the woods “objectifying” or whatever, and tree falls on him.
Especially if it was an oak, chopped down by the maples.
You gotta love how mad Barack Obama makes impotent honky nobodies — she just drives them nuts. Power to the people.
The Vermont Teddy Bear Company should start making Objectivist Bears. They would totally corner the market on Randian furries.
No OPS, we are laughing at you for idolizing a fool whose work most people outgrow by age 18.
poor dennis miller. you have to figure he spent his high school years paying lip service to ayn rand to try to score with debate team chicks. now he’s paying lip service to ayn rand for a paycheck. at least pj o’rourke more/less anticipated his own eventual decline and had the self-awareness to comment upon his own descent into full-blown republicanism as it was happening.
The Constitution says nothing about bailing out corporations, for one.
I would also refer you to the 10th Amendment, which he has violated on numerous occasions.
The Constitution says nothing about bailing out corporations, for one.
It’s in the same section as Unitary Executive, Warrantless Wiretap, Enhanced Interrogation and Indefinite Detention.
Yeah sure, blame Bush. Obama and the Senate libs were the ones who convinced him to do the taxpayer rape known as TARP, and he voted for it in the Senate. He could have tried to stop it, especially after he became President, but he kept the taxpayer-funded gravy train rolling down the tracks.
Major Kong, see “providing for the common defense”.
The only legitimate purpose of government is to prevent force and fraud and to provide protection against foreign armies. The government should protect life and property. Anything else is exceeding it’s legitimate role.
I don’t think the Constitution says anything about granting corporations rights as artificial persons.
It is jealousy and not confidence which prescribes limited constitutions, to bind down those whom we are obliged to trust with power… Our Constitution has accordingly fixed the limits to which, and no further, our confidence may go… In questions of power, then, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution.
–Thomas Jefferson
The fact that Thomas Jefferson said stuff about the Constitution means that Barack HUSSEIN Obama is an illegal Indo-Kenyan usurper. This is why our troops have to be in Iraq.
Al Gore — not in the Constitution. ANSWER THAT, LIBS.
jefferson also said of himself, after the louisiana purchase “i have made blank paper of the constitution.” then he wept and gnashed his teeth until congress, effectively, said “there there, big guy. it’ll be fine. we’re cool with this.”
jefferson. what a character!
wait what was your point? oh, you didn’t have one?
I think we should measure the size of government in kilo-Hitlers. OPS, how many kHs do you think obama has expanded the government by.
Thankfully there are still some people in this country who believe in protecting the Constitution:
Whatever happened to States’ Rights? Don’t the U.S. “Supreme” Court know its place no more?
The government should protect life and property. Anything else is exceeding it’s legitimate role.
Oh bullshit, read the fucking Constitution, there’s lots more in there than that. If you want a government whose “legitimate role” is narrower than what’s in the Constitution, amend it via “legitimate” means or get the fuck out.
Government is not reason, it is not eloquence — it is force! Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. Never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action.
–George Washington
Air Force – NOT IN THE CONSTITUTION
No. 2 on my list, which is John Q. Public, as exhibited by these people at the tea party
People who were not at the tea-party do not count as Real Public.
The only legitimate purpose of government is to prevent force and fraud and to provide protection against foreign armies.
That’s Atlas Shrugged not the US Constitution.
The Onion has pre-emptively mocked Troofie/Paul/annoying nym-shifting troll, so you don’t have to.
I’ve said it once and I’ll say it again; Ayn Rand’s objectivism is best savored when you’re living at home and your parents are paying for everything.
And if you’re very, very high.
And speaking of Miller, I will state for the record that there was a time, many years ago, when I considered him about the funniest and hippest thing going. I even subscribed to HBO just for his show. Of course, back then, dry underwear allowed him to be, you know, funny. I remember watching his first post-9/11 special and barely cracking a smile.
If you want to be an overtly political comedian, you’ve got to be something pretty fucking special, I’m talking George Carlin level. Miller is not that.
Well, the U.S. Constitution sometimes has to include things what aren’t in it. The Founding Fathers clearly meant to include Atlas Shrugged in the U.S. Constitution but in the confusion they forgot it.
Child molestation isn’t in the constitution, congress has no authority to ban it.
Not in the U.S. Constitution.
Behold. Objectivist Bears.
http://www.cafepress.com/+galt+teddy_bears
Not in the U.S. Constitution.
I’d much rather have a group of private corporations run air traffic control as a joint venture (like, say, Underwriters Laboratories do with standards in their products) than have the taxpayers fund it.
And children should just hire Xe bodyguards if they don’t want to be raped.
NASA
No, they are protected by the police. Again, protection against force/fraud.
NASA is a waste of taxpayer dollars, abolish it.
Didn’t you say you were going away?
Or are you just another conservitard liar?
Developing the Internet
So if you just offer them candy if they say yes…
Wars of choice
Behold. Objectivist Bears.
Awesome.
Totally not in the Constitution, by the way.
George Washington say fire bad!
I think that just proves the un-Constitutionality of combustion engines, incendiary rounds, gas stoves, hot water heaters, Burger King flame-broiled Whoppers, and that little move where you lick your finger and touch it to your butt and pretend it makes a hissing sound.
also schools
The internet was developed for the Department of Defense for nuclear war. Again, “common defense”. The fact it has applications to civilian uses was a bonus, but not its original intent. Funny thing is, you libs hate defense spending, so its always ironic when your bring it up.
First-strike nukes
Military tribunals
You know who else is not in the Constitution?
Hiler!
“Enhanced interrogation”
Schools should be run by LOCAL GOVERNMENTS with NO intereference from federal authorities. So, you’re right. Federal funding of education and regulation of schools is unconstitutional. End it, and save taxpayer dollars.
The internet was developed for the Department of Defense for nuclear war.
I thought Fat Al Gore invented the internet.
I wonder if you would consider preventing a major financial collapse “promoting the general welfare”? Perhaps the general welfare is promoted only by enforcing the Constitution in the limited, unsupportable, selfish way you interpret it, but people of intelligence (and moral fiber) probably wouldn’t agree.
Trying to blame Congress for the bailout while the entire Bush administration was screaming “now, Now, NOW!!!!” at the top of their lungs is a bit like blaming the congress for voting to get into a war based on a consistent manipulation of facts and outright lying. Which one can do, I suppose, but only if they are partisan to the point of blind obedience, or just plan stupid. I suspect you of both.
In any case, no financial collapse might just have been a good thing, yes? So really, wouldn’t you WANT your boy king to have been responsible for it? Oh, wait, I forgot: partisan and stupid.
In conclusion, and taking into account the level of discourse at which our trolls operate, I have but one thing to say to you: Food goes in the top hole, lil’ cowboy, not the one at the other end.
Dick Cheney would tell you that too, so you can feel safe doing it that way, okay?
We are all teeeth gnashers now…central to my point..
SCHOOLS, talk about how public schools is evil already.
And also the treasury dept.
That’s Hiler Nausbaum, the old lady who lives next door.
Who gives a shit what you prefer? I prefer all Republicans and the modern conservative movement shut the fuck up after having spent the last 8 years destroying every fucking part of the country and the world they managed to get their hands on and presiding over 3 of the last 3 banking collapses.
Who gives a shit what a bunch of weirdo douchebags say they support and don’t support, and what they consider the role of government to be and not to be? Yeah, not me.
Printing currency in general actually
Fly Bill’s Discount Air! Sure, our flights are cheaper because we don’t contribute to air traffic control, but hey! Russian Roulette can be fun!
(I know you’re just trying to get a rise out of us, Troofy, because you’re bored/lonely/horny/whatever, but dang can you ever bring the stoopid.)
The Department of Defense (nee War Department)
The 4th Amendment was in the Constitution, sure, but it wasn’t really of the Constitution, so, it’s not really there.
I guess medicare and social security are no-brainers, see you grampa.
The CIA
Financial collapse could have been prevented by getting the government out of the mortgage business, and stopping Chris Dodd and Barney Frank from forcing Fanny and Freddie to make risky loans. Also would help if the FED didn’t keep interests rates ridiculously low feeding speculation. This whole crisis was really caused by Big Government. Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, the FED, Jimmy Carter with his CRA and pandering to “diversity” in home lending.
“General Welfare” clause means Congress has the power to do things which aren’t specifically stated, but only TO CARRY OUT ITS ENUMERATED POWERS! It doesn’t mean billions for welfare queens.
The Department of Transportation! Also the EPA.
If you’re dumb enough to fly on an airplane that doesn’t have air traffic control, why should the nanny state stop you from being stupid?
“No-knock” searches
Not in the U.S. Constitution.
This whole crisis was really caused by Big Government. Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, the FED, Jimmy Carter with his CRA and pandering to “diversity” in home lending.
Shut the fuck UP already, you fucking racist twat. Jesus.
EPA? Abolish it. Have private corporations make their own standards, and if the consumer doesn’t like it, the consumer can CHOOSE not to buy from corporations that don’t control their pollution.
The CIA is “common defense”. So are the interstate highways, to be used by our troops. But Congress should NOT fund local and state roads, EVER.
the banks fell apart because the liberals weren’t watching when black people stole $700 billion in housing and hid ’em somewhere
Where did I mention race?
Give the National Parks over to the states or better yet, privatize them.
FDIC
i prefer everything to be made out of chocolate therefore anything not made out of chocolate is against my values and un-Constitutional, and probably the fault of Jimmy Carter or Ted Kennedy, or Barney Frank ’cause he’s a fag
i would like to name dennis miller as one of america’s most fascinating people as well, since he swims upstream against that comedy culture.
If only an Objectivist grizzy would devour him.
The CIA is “common defense”.
No it isn’t.
If you want to be an overtly political comedian it helps considerably not to align yourself directly w/ a fascist power structure,.
Corporations should make their own standards, and if you don’t like the corporation that’s dumping benzene into your drinking water, well, stop drinking water, dummy! Pepsi’s there for a reason!
the states should be abolished. they are stupid and worthless, and a single federal government should be better.
What am I, chopped liver.
Man, I am totally typo-city today, and I’ve only had a wee nip of Scotch so far.
Tactical nuclear weapons
Wars of choice
Torture
It’s cute the way these poseurs went from Everything the White House sez is right to this insipid Libertarianism-4-Dummies prattling overnight. I wonder what happened.
the problem is that all these people who say they want to go Galt never do
Atoms. Not in the Constitution.
Also the FDIC, this is the one that you know we need but can’t be part of your ultra slim definition of the constitution so I’d love for you to address this one.
I’m gonna go Galt, just as soon as (mumble mumble kick at dirt)
Dennis Miller was funny back when he was smug and cynical. When he made his political shift, he became smug and sanctimonious instead. It’s not just the politics, it’s the ass-kissing desperation and flopsweat emanationg from his every pore that makes him unfunny now. I miss the Dennis Miller that was a funny asshole, not just an asshole.
I am definitely in the Constitution
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/amendment16/
I think we should privatize bears. It’s just common sense.
Pepsi’sBrawndo’s there for a reason!If you want to be an overtly political comedian it helps considerably not to align yourself directly w/ a fascist power structure,.
in soviet russia, government pays political comedians to make fun of YOU!
Signing statements
I think we should privatize bears
I think we should bare privates.
It says PROMOTE the general welfare, not PROVIDE it.
You need to fully read the constitution. The general welfare clasue is for states not individuals, and has more to do with taxes rather than providing services to individual groups. Reading the franklin papers it shows that they would not help the individual, but the state. The classic example is the request to help out war widows which was struck down as adding a preference to an individual group.
The filibuster
See, I was gonna go for the Brawndo joke, but I figured it was just a little too pat. Maybe it’s because I’m just all pompous and faggy and shit.
Is this guy ever in a state of not getting his ass kicked? Oh well. Time to think of a new moniker/schtick, you lovable loser.
Obama is to Hitler as Pelosi is to Stalin.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/scavenger/detail?entry_id=53286
No you aren’t because I heard somewhere that there was some or other mixup in ratifying or the schedule or something and this means that you are illegitimate and the only true authority is the local county sheriff unless he is coming to collect taxes which is why Hillary Clinton tried to send black UN helicopters to get us all in the 1990s but the Republican Revolution saved us until Bill Clinton let Saddam Hussein attack the World Trade Centers which are in New York but not the liberal elite part of New York and then Bush Jr. came in just after and saved us from a 2nd Saddam attack but while he was away Barney Frank snuck into the House one night and even though the Republicans held both the House and Senate from 2002 – 2006 Barney Fag gave all our houses away to ACORN and Bill Ayers and when Bush Jr. came back the banks were all gone because NANCY PELOSI WENT TO SYRIA and gave them to Hugo Chavez and had his babies.
The general welfare clasue is for states not individuals…
No it isn’t.
The classic example is the request to help out war widows which was struck down as adding a preference to an individual group.
Well, fuck the Veterans Admin then. No special treatment for losers who got shot, blown up, or were driven mad by war. Pussies.
Yeah, but for fuck’s sake, it’s already a general — what, we should raise it to the rank of Generalissimo Welfare? Head of the Joint Chiefs of Welfare? Secretary of the Welfare? This stuff is hard, you know.
I can’t let this tasty nugget of stupid go by:
Obama and the Senate libs were the ones who convinced him to do the taxpayer rape known as TARP
Yes, because Bush was such a caring, compassionate listener who was so easily swayed by arguments from the opposing party that he was mere putty in the hands of the Senate liberals. I mean, he did every thing they told him to do! In fact, it was Obama who was really in charge during 2001-2008, all that talk about Cheney was just a distraction!
It says PROMOTE the general welfare…
No it doesn’t.
That’s not fair. Obama, Bill Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, Barney Fag, and Bill Ayers are responsible for all the bad things which happened and Bush Jr. is the one who saved us from the other bad things.
Bookmark this, liberals, as this is exactly how it is going to go down. You will be wonder how the hell I was able to call this.
What’s great about this troll is he doesn’t deny that getting rid of all these things would kill millions of people it’s just that his response is ‘nanny state. nanny state, they deserved it’
I think we should privatize bears
I think we should bare privates.
It’s the middle of December! Dudely privates will go Galt.
Not in the U.S. Constitution.
Stupid troll is pretty fucking stupid:
And I mean, like, incredibly fucking stupid:
So … um, yeah. You’re a clueless fucktard.
Tea Party crusaders seek to restore the Constitution by making sure children sing CHRISTMAS carols. (You hear that libs? Not ‘holiday’ carols or ‘pagan burn baby Jesus for Satan’ carols, but CHRIST-MASS carols, just without the catholicky connotations of ‘mass’.)
This was in the Constitution.
I was promoted.
During the FDR regime, of course, the general welfare clause was “re-interpreted” and we have the general mess we have now (high taxes, big government, nanny statate, more debt and more spending).
Almost in the Constitution: The Right to Bear Arms.
http://www.neatorama.com/2006/05/02/japanese-teddy-bear-gun/
Is it too much to ask that dumb fuckers actually bother to read me once in a while? I mean, I’m not exactly War and Peace over here. I’m talking 15, maybe 20 minutes, tops.
A lot of people who taling about “getting back to the Constitution” want to pretend I’m not in it, but oh snap! there I am.
I’m weak. Please don’t hit me again; I just can’t take it.
I think Ayn Rand’s Air Traffic Control would be best expressed in the lyrics:
“Ya gotta go (go where you wanna wanna go)”
“Fly where you (wanna wanna fly)”
but I’m just on a common sense kick today…
Nanny state. Nanny state nanny state nanny state nanny state nanny state.
I hate it when my tags are left open …
talking, even. Apparently separation of church and state is a grammar-challenged misspeller, who know?
Not found in the U.S.
And this is exactly when the America People turned against big government liberalism, FDR was booted out as a 1 term failure, and for the next 70 years Coolidge economics made American Great.
YES THE HIGH HIGH TAXES OF 2009. Do you have any fucking clue how high taxes could get in the 19th century and how much of it was just pocketed. And how much larger a deadweight loss it caused because it was always tariffs and never income taxes. Oh wait, these things are all based on history and economics, things I have no concept of and have no desire to understand because it might burst my Grover Norquist subsidized reality bubble, and I would move one step away from being a massive tool.
As to Social Security and Medicare, they’re both going to go bankrupt in the next 50 years. They’re giant pyramid scams that take from young workers and give it directly to retirees. Why not cut out the middle man and take care of grandma yourself?
I mean really Bernie Madoff was basically doing exactly what big government does with Social Security.
“Tea Party crusaders seek to restore the Constitution by making sure children sing CHRISTMAS carols. (You hear that libs? Not ‘holiday’ carols or ‘pagan burn baby Jesus for Satan’ carols, but CHRIST-MASS carols, just without the catholicky connotations of ‘mass’.)”
The ballot measure is clearly unconstitutional because it favors christianity over other relegions. Just think how a ballot measure requiring kids to sing Islamic songs would go over with these douches.
Why not cut out the middle man and take care of grandma yourself?
My grandma is dead. Thanks for reminding me, asshole.
Except Madoff didn’t FORCE anyone to be in his scam, while I’m FORCED by the government, at gunpoint, to pay into Social Security.
Why can’t I opt out of SS as a FREE CHOICE?
I’m not in the Consitution, either? Crap, stop listening to me, guys!
Yeah, but it says “establishment of religion” instead of “Church” and “Congress” instead of “State”, so, it doesn’t count, because totally no Church calls themselves an “Establishment of Religion”.
ADDRESS MY POST LIB(ertarian)S!!1!
Can someone please tell dumbass troll that whining about debt is pretty funny coming from a guy who happily supported the three guys who rang up 70% of it — Reagan, Bush I and Bush II.
Here’s a pretty picture even! Note the red lines …
You can choose to break any law you want. It’s your FREE CHOICE. But since we have a democratic Republican form of government, people aren’t necessarily going to let you propertards get away with it.
When speaking to liberals: Durrrr, Medicare sux. Gotta kill it.
When speaking to grandma: Durrrr, Medicare is awesome. Libs are trying to kill it.
Which is it?
You know who sang Islamic songs ?
Cat Hitler !
OK I’m outta here…
You can opt out of Social Security pretty easily, I hear.
There are 202 other sovereign countries and de-facto states you could try living in, if the United States isn’t quite up to your standards.
Reagan’s debt doesn’t count because the Democrats’ allies in the USSR forced him to do it.
Financial collapse could have been prevented by getting the government out of the mortgage business
Because there was never a financial collapse before FNMA. Jesus, it’s like you were born yesterday.
Kinda sad to see how one energetic buttwipe of a troll can capsize an entire thread, particularly one that’s supposed to be devoted to the eminently worthwhile task of kicking Dennis Miller’s smarmy ass.
Speaking of which (and getting back on topic), I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. There are two schools of thought when it comes to Miller: (1.) That he hasn’t been funny since buying a one-way ticket to Limbaugh Land, and (2.) That he was never funny or talented to begin with.
I tend to subscribe to the second theory, myself. I recall watching him for the very first time on SNL back in the day. I’d never seen him or heard of him before, and the dislike was immediate. Right from the beginning, Miller’s preening smugness was so palpable, you could practically cut it with a knife. I remember thinking, “What on earth has this smirking, unfunny asshole got to be so damned pleased with himself about?”
I am hurting no one if I CHOOSE not to contribute to Social Security.
why should I be FORCED to hand over money to the government so it can save it for me (and it doesn’t really do this, but just wait, this is central to the point I’m making)?
Whatever happened to people saving money on their own?
Please elaborate further on how the big powerful meanie Democrats forced Bush to do things he didn’t want to do. None of that would have happened if we had had a REAL conservative in the White House, right?
Live here, Troofy!
Oh, and one other thing:
Social Security and Medicare can be fixed quite easily:
Raise the maximum income limit for deductions from $90K to $250K.
**POOF!**
Problem solved!
Of course, for fuckwaffles like Troofie, making sure rich people keep a few hundred more bucks a year is much more important than ensuring the elderly have enough money for food.
Thank you for the opportunity to rerail myself. I definitely remember laughing at a 2000 Dennis Miller comedy special, he was pretty wingnutty there but I was laughing, but I was watching it with one of my conservative friends so it might’ve just been peer pressure.
MAH LIBERTIES HAS BIN INFRINGED, I MEAN ON THE SOCIAL SECURITAY PART, BUT U KIN SERCH MAH PROPTY ANY TIME ‘GAINST THE MOOOZLIMS
So you’re going to put even heavier taxes on productive people, who aren’t even really that “rich” (only to a lib are they “rich”) to put a band aid on a broken ponzi scheme? And during a recession, even MORE taxes, on those making LESS than $250k/year?
People in that income bracket already pay over half their income in federal, state, and local taxes, why should they be forced to pay more when the government wastes so much money already?
Because it was Barney Fag. And he would go up and stand beside them and they’d get all nervous and scared because the Jane Fonda PC police would be standing right there and so not knowing what to do they would just go along.
Yeah! My farts aren’t gonna fart themfarts.
The Constitution said … Is it too much to ask that dumb fuckers actually bother to read me once in a while? I mean, I’m not exactly War and Peace over here. I’m talking 15, maybe 20 minutes, tops.
You poor darling, it’s not like they’d understand you even if they were to read you.
It is the rich people who are productive. This is why the economy sinks down so much when average real wages decline and consumer demand drops even though rich people can still buy anything they want. Or something.
Zombies?
NOT IN THE CONSTITUTION
So making $90k a year is “rich” now? Before it was over $250k. Funny how libs keep moving the definition of “rich” downward, isn’t it?
Only a matter of time before it’s $50k and over.
First they came for the Jews…etc.
Seriously, If someone, somewhere, will just send me the troll’s IP address, I will cheerfully hunt him down & eff him up but good, & destroy the cheap paneling in his mother’s basement besides. Insult to injury, y’know.
The problem with Socialism is that you eventually run out of other people’s money.
Why can’t I opt out of paying my federal taxes as a free choice?
Why can’t I opt out of jury duty as a free choice?
Why can’t I opt out of buying car insurance as a free choice?
Why can’t I opt out of paying my state and local taxes as a free choice.
Why can’t i choose not to be bound by the civil laws as a free choice?
Why can’t I choose not to be bound by the criminal laws as a free choice?
and so on . . .
I remember when he hosted the VMAs in the mid-90s. That was weird.
“First they came for the Jews…etc.”
You’re a self-parody, conscious of it or not, I can’t fucking tell.
Fuckholes like you got the deregulation of the financial industry you wanted.
That allowed banks to operate as both commercial banks and investment houses, and package certain securities without any oversight whatsoever.
They then leveraged the commercial side for the investment side, sometimes at more than a 40 to 1 ratio.
Those investments tanked in a historically horrific fashion.
The commercial deposits (a.k.a. “savings”) were wiped the fuck out.
Viola! No savings left!
But, please, tell us again how private industries should run our nation, instead of elected representatives.
(You’re getting boring, so I’m done. Sorry, folks. My apologies.)
“First they came for the Jews…etc.”
And the troll goes Godwin over income taxes.
ZOMG! SOMEBODY WHAT MAKES $175K A YEAR MIGHT HAVE TO CONTRIBUTE MORE TO SOCIAL SECURITY!
HOW MUCH MORE LIKE HITLER’S NAZI GERMANY DO YOU PEOPLE WANT IT TO GET???
NEXT ALL THE MINI-MANSIONS WILL BE TURNED INTO GAS CHAMBERS!!!!
Raise the maximum income limit for deductions from $90K to $250K.
Or remove the cap entirely.
Ann Rand’s Air Traffic Control would keep the skies completely clear, because only those superhumans who could actually flap their arms and fly would be allowed to have access to them.
Another good idea:
You should get more voting power based on how much you pay in taxes. And if you don’t pay any taxes, no voting. And if you receive welfare payments, you can’t vote either.
That way we can prevent people from voting themselves largess out of the public treasury.
And by “Ann” I mean “Ayn”.
Margaret Thatcher said,
The problem with Socialism is that you eventually run out of other people’s money
You tell ’em!
Now that’s in the constitution!
You should get more voting power based on how much you pay in taxes. And if you don’t pay any taxes, no voting. And if you receive welfare payments, you can’t vote either.
The sad thing is that this is a real argument. I’ve actually heard people say this.
God damn it! Why did Ronald Reagan and the Heritage Foundation turn socialist by declaring that the lowest income workers shouldn’t be burdened by federal taxes?
Did they not remember how George Washington died on the cross at the Potomac river for the principle of one dollar, one vote?
Let’s just disenfranchise as many people as possible. The ideal situation would be to have maybe half a dozen voters, tops. It’d really simplify exit polling.
So making $90k a year is “rich” now? Before it was over $250k.”
You make Baby Aristotle cry.
I think Miller is just trying to make everyone forget about his dreadful season on Monday Night Football. He was the most unqualified, improbable guy to get a football gig in history, until ESPN hired Rush.
” the most unqualified, improbable guy to get a football gig in history”
*AHEM*
Before Social Security, everybody took care of older folks. There was NOBODY starving. ALL aLIE of the Librul Media that didn’t even exist then!!!
Keep fucking that chicken of abolishing Social Security, one of the most popular government programs ever. I am sure everyone is right on the edge of seeing it your way.
Also fun: the moderately wealthy play idiots for the super-rich:
Douchebag small business owners who think they’re ‘the rich’ ’cause they got a Mercedes and a big house?
Yeah. You’re the real rich’s cheap whores. Hee hee! Keep workin’ them long hours, suckers, so that you can think you’re part of the jet set crowd!
Buh, buh, buh, mah propty, mah nice car — I iz too rich! Hee heeeee!!!
I’d much rather have a group of private corporations run air traffic control
I have 5000+ hours of jet time. I hold an Airline Transport Rating, Commercial, Multi-Engine and Instrument rating as well as a Flight Engineer rating.
I’m type-rated on the 727 and the Airbus 300/310.
Still want to lecture me about the Air Traffic Control system?
N.C. said,
“There are 202 other sovereign countries and de-facto states you could try living in, if the United States isn’t quite up to your standards.”
It seems that I got told that a lot by the right-wingnuts when I was against the Afghanistan and Iraq wars. Why can’t they take their own advice?
Social Security has created a culture of dependency on government among seniors, a dangerous attitude to have. So it has to be ended slowly so people can learn to be independent of the nanny state in their golden years.
From the Wikipedia entry on Kieth Olbermann:
“Olbermann spent the first twenty years of his career in sports journalism. He was a sports correspondent for CNN in the 1980s, winning the Best Sportscaster award from the California Associated Press three times. He later co-hosted ESPN’s SportsCenter from 1992 to 1997. After leaving ESPN amid controversy, Olbermann became a sports anchor and producer for Fox Sports Net from 1998 to 2001, during which time he hosted Fox’s studio coverage of baseball.”
In the 1920s, the average Southern textile mill employee working full time earned less money than was sufficient to buy enough food to replenish the calories expended in work that day.
God, damn, but America used to be beautiful, and moral. Not like when FDR came in and changed everything and use his magical evil warlock powers to transform the South from its idyllic, hardworking, hookworm-enabled paradise to the modernized hellhole it is now, with its ‘roads’ and ‘schools’ and ‘flush toilets in the house’ and ‘hospitals’ and ‘technical colleges’ and defense plants and military bases.
I keep getting my ass kicked by facts so I have to change subjects every two posts.
So it has to be ended slowly so people can learn to be independent of the nanny state in their golden years.
So we can go back to the good old days when most seniors lived in abject poverty and frequently died of hypothermia.
It is much more vital and Randian to make sure rich folks can buy a new Mercedes than it is to ensure every citizen has food and affordable health care.
And poor people shouldn’t vote because they don’t really count as people until they make more than $250,000 a year. Which we all know is just barely enough to survive on!
What seniors need in their golden years is a jungle and a knife. Those last few trials of survival may not last long, and may end brutally, but their short, sweet painful deaths will serve as inspiring lessons to us all.
Major Kong said,
“I have 5000+ hours of jet time.”
Is it true that the big jets can take off, fly, and land themselves? I heard that from a small plane pilot a while ago and have never gotten a chance to verify it.
So it has to be ended slowly so people can learn to be independent of the nanny state in their golden years.
Do not even bother responding to crap like this. Beyond the parody pale now.
Social Security has created a culture of dependency on government among seniors, a dangerous attitude to have. So it has to be ended slowly so people can learn to be independent of the nanny state in their golden years.
In a just universe, Troofy’s kids would haul this one out when they put him on the ice floe.
Seniors need to have their family and Church take care of them. Notice that Social Security not only grows the state, but also weakens the institutions of family and religion. Two birds with one stone for liberals.
So it has to be ended slowly so people can learn to be independent of the nanny state in their golden years.
Yeah! Let them eat cat food!
I find it enlightening that libs wouldn’t provide for their grandparents without government coercion. That says a lot right there.
Nothing strengthens one’s loving bond with family more than not being able to afford your own family’s expenses, much less pay for your grandparents, because, hey, these billionaire fuckers say it’s in the spiritual interests of the American family structure.
Only people who procreate deserve to make it past 65.
Social Security has created a culture of dependency on government among seniors, a dangerous attitude to have. So it has to be ended slowly so people can learn to be independent of the nanny state in their golden years.
And what could make grandma and grandpa more “independent of the nanny state” than an ice floe?
My arguments don’t hold up when subjected to logic, so I have to use ad homonym attacks to distract from their intellectual poverty.
What seniors need in their golden years is a jungle and a knife. Those last few trials of survival may not last long, and may end brutally, but their short, sweet painful deaths will serve as inspiring lessons to us all.
It would also make for FABULOUS television!
What kind a damn luxury senior paradise are you trying to create here? What, your grandparents are just too good to eat rats they manage to catch by hand? They get nice little soft ‘cans’ of food, ready to eat? Pffft. Figures you liberals would want to rob the thrill of the hunt from old people.
Oops, zombies are faster than me once again!
Still waiting for troll’s address. Sharpening knives while I wait.
I’m using someone else’s wi-fi, so suck it, M. Bouffant.
And if you don’t HAVE grandchildren, it’s your own fault! DIE, unpatriotic slackers!
Zombies will also take care of all these parasite old folks too, wyatt.
You can always go to the local Church.
But hey, encouraging people not to reproduce? Population control, another point for the liberal agenda re:, Social Security. See how it’s all connected?
And I love how you libs aren’t having children. It means more conservatives, conservatives have more children than libs. They’re future right-wing voters.
The Local church is a good place to Nom branes.
I love how the wingnuts can go from “Nyah nyah, we’re outbreeding you” to “oh no! White people are being outbred! For God’s sake, doesn’t anybody CARE????” at the drop of a hat.
And I love how you libs aren’t having children. It means more conservatives, conservatives have more children than libs. They’re future right-wing voters.
umm, no it doesn’t. Political ideology isn’t an inherited trait, dumbass.
In the coming zombocalypse, you will be pretty safe from the Brain enthusiasts. Unfortunately, the 28 days style zombies, who like eyes and heart and puffy, cancerous lungs and corn-syrup-overloaded kidneys…
because all churches everywhere just have free housing for old people. they do. you just have to know the secret door to go to and the code knock to use.
Jeez, Neo, it’s like you’ve never heard of their Political Manual: 1984.
If we punished people more for being poor than nobody will want to be poor and then who will I find to pick my fruit. Your intentions to increase my profits are noble OPS but there is a flaw in your logic.
The bottom line though, is this: Social Security is unconstitutional. You want it? Pass an amendment. Good luck!
And the Founders were small-government conservatives, full stop.
We should tax the curches and use the money for the poor. Cut out the middle man.
Is it something about Trolling that makes them unable to fundamentally understand how representative democracy WORKS?
I blame lack of school funding, and the resultant cutting of Civics classes.
The bottom line, though, is this: one person, one vote.
And conservatives have never gotten over that.
We are a Republic, not a democracy. A nation of laws, not mob majorities.
The bottom line, though, is this: One brain, one ZOM NOM NOM.
Dennis Miller always hit and missed for me, until Comedy Central had him cover the State of the Union address. Anyone remember that? They tried to do an MST3K thing with it, and Lord was it a fucking train wreck. After Miller ran out of his prepared quips he started complaining about how hard live entertainment is, how badly he needed to go to the bathroom, and, if memory serves, accusing then-unknown Sarah Silverman of stealing Victoria Jackson’s act. He had no ability to comment on what he was seeing (which is why it puzzled the bejeesus out of me when he got his gig on MNF), and he covered his inability by complaints and insulting his less famous guests.
It was there that “insufferable floundering prick” trumped “sometimes kinda clever” for me.
“And the Founders were small-government conservatives.”
I think “small government conservatism” went extinct around the same time as the unicorn. Do you also believe in the tooth fairy?
and one of those laws happens to be Social Security. Legally enacted by Congress and signed by the President. See how that works?
Stupid boring troll is really unbelievably stupid and boring.
Bring on the dancing badgers.
Yes, what with how they rewrote the national constitution to retroactively make crushing Shay’s Rebellion lawful and then the entire Alien and Sedition Acts thing.
The Founding Fathers would, if alive today, all be Glenn Beck, even if some of them were a woman. Believe it, libs.
when the Founders lived, it was a small country; small government was all they could do.
It may come as news to the Teabagger Trolls, but the America of 2009 has some structural differences from the America of 1776.
Alec doesn’t believe in the principles of the Founders which made this country great. He must get his American history from Michael Moore, Howard Zinn, and Noam Chomsky,
Shorter Troofie: The Founders were all morally and intellectually perfect even though they disagreed among themselves about the Constitution and many also owned slaves and believed women were not equel and should not vote or own property.
Of course it is. The South has always been Republican; what do you think we fought the civil war for??
Nah, I prefer Lenin, Beard, and Hitler. Not necessarily in that order, because sometimes you gotta be objectively pro-Hitler.
“The South has always been Republican;”
You’re strikingly ignorant about American history, Alec. Lincoln was a Republican. And he also liked corporations and believed in a capitalism.
The Democrats were for “peace at any price” in the Civil War, just as they are now.
The more things change…..
And he confiscated the property of half of the country more or less summarily. Yeah, sounds like “small government” to me, right??
Alec doesn’t believe in the principles of the Founders which made this country great.
We bow before the xenophobic shape-shifting aliens who made the Dominion what it is today.
Odo did WTC.
“the principles of the Founders”
See. Slavery, subjection of women, Native massacres, only property owners can vote (wait your’e for that) etc.
Also, point out an error in Howard Zinn’s “Peoples History of the United States”? Just one. Coming this weekend to the History Channel. Check your local listings. Thanks for the opportunity for the plug OPS.
commie atheist said,
“Bring on the dancing badgers.”
We don’t need no steenkin’ badgers!
Like all Jews, Zinn refuses to accept the sacrifice of Christ for his sins. There’s your “one error”, fatty.
“The Democrats were for “peace at any price” in the Civil War, just as they are now.”
I thought it was the Democrats who were standing up for “Traditional Southern Conservative Values” much like the G.O.P. is today. Why do you hate white southern heritage troll?
Alec doesn’t believe in the principles of the Founders which made this country great.
Says the guy who thinks the government doing anything beyond protecting “life and property” is “exceeding it’s legitimate role,” regardless of what the Constitution actually says.
“Zinn refuses to accept the sacrifice of Christ for his sins.”
So did Thomas Jefferson. Don’t tell the troll, it might upset him. Thomas Paine also.
Clarification: It would not upset Thomas Paine because he did not beleive in God but don’t tell the people of late 18th century America or England because he doesn’t want to be unecessarily persecuted for his beliefs.
These are not the badgers I’m looking for.
Bring on the dancing badgers.
You rang?
America is a Christian nation, so Jefferson was technically Presidont of the Unyted Statez of Ammerica.
Damn, what happened to dishing on Tyler Perry? Stupid trolls.
He is gay, right?
Glenn Beck is the Thomas Paine of our times: an uncompromising critic of big government tyranny often derided as “ignorant” by his critics.
This is my life.
Glenn Beck is the T
homasPaineof our times: he should be quarantined on a boat.Hey, you know who also found soldiers fascinating?
Is it true that the big jets can take off, fly, and land themselves?
I fly an Airbus 300, which is 1980s technology. It can fly itself, but somebody still has to tell it where to fly itself.
It can’t take off on it’s own. I normally hand fly it up to 10,000′ but you can turn the autopilot on right after takeoff.
It can autoland, but you have to set it up on the approach and the watch it very closely to make sure it’s doing what it’s supposed to. We only use it when the weather is down to really low visibility (600′).
FTFY.
Glenn Beck : Thomas Paine :: that nacho “cheese” sauce at truck stops : goat feta
Glenn Beck is the King Koopa of our times, protecting our princesses from the rapacious wops.
I have never once spoken about a real life experience besides what happens here, online. What does that say about me? Ten years. That’s a long time to be a troll. But that’s what I am. This is my life.
Ask the pilot: It’s time to put to rest the idea that planes fly themselves.
Okay who wan snotchos?
Beck appropriating Thomas Paine is just one in a long series of unfortunate things to happen to the man: being born with a face that looks like nothing so much as a Hollywood stock pervert who has been hit with a shovel, his civil-liberties-radical beliefs getting him ostracized by his more generally mercantile and monarchist peers, and then the dreamed-of global revolution he sought to forment in England ending in bitter failure as Napoleon crushed the radical state in France and Pitt branding everyone to the left of Fox hateful traitors to the crown.
And now a shitty reenactor dresses up in a third-rate set designer’s idea of what his contemporaries wore (and sometimes, just to bring the idea across, a wig to make him look like the more generally smug and reactionary Franklin) and reinforces the deranged Momo rantings of a fair-weather Libertarian by attaching yee oldde Repoublickanne talkynge pointef to his good name.
If you are ever time-travelling, consider giving poor old Thomas Paine a pity-fuck. The man genuinely deserves it.
Glenn Beck is the Mandy of our times: coming and giving without taking, until we send him away.
Glenn Beck is to Thomas Paine as surprise farts are to an elegant dinner with the Queen.
Glenn Beck is the Ernest T. Bass of Liberal Fascism.
being born with a face that looks like nothing so much as a Hollywood stock pervert who has been hit with a shovel
Oh be honest. He looks like a Hollywood stock pervert who has been hit with a shovel after he’s been left to bloat in the sun for a couple days.
Glenn Beck is the externally-ejaculating Custer of Liberal Featherstonism.
More on Thomas Paine – Liberal Hero
“American revolutionary Thomas Paine advocated a basic Income Guarantee to all US citizens as compensation for “loss of his or her natural inheritance, by the introduction of the system of landed property” (Agrarian Justice, 1795).”
He also wrote, “The Christian religion is a parody on the worship of the sun, in which they put a man called Christ in the place of the sun, and pay him the adoration originally payed to the sun.”
“He was an early advocate of republicanism and liberalism, dismissing monarchy, and viewing government as a necessary evil. He opposed slavery, proposed universal, free public education. progressive taxation, guaranteed minimum income, and other ideas then considered radical.”
“At the time of his death, most American newspapers reprinted the obituary notice from the New York Citizen, which read in part: “He had lived long, did some good and much harm.” Only six mourners came to his funeral, two of whom were black, most likely freedmen.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Paine
Thomas Paine didn’t blubber as much as Glenn Beck. Imagine how Captain Crybaby would’ve wailed and gnashed his teeth had he put up with one-tenth of the shit Paine went through. Nor would he have written anything as puerile as “The Christmas Sweater”. Seriously, have you ever read The Age Of Reason or The Rights Of Man, ’cause it’s a sure bet Glenn Beck hasn’t.
He looks like a Hollywood stock pervert who has been hit with a shovel after he’s been left to bloat in the sun for a couple days.
That would be Beck, for sure. But I think the original description was meant to apply to Paine. Was he really that ugly?
And I can’t pass a math test that retards ace.
Glen Beck : Thomas Paine :: Elephant Queef : Unexpected, delightful peck on the cheek from J Lo.
Thomas Paine was a true patriot because he allowed Glenn Beck to publish a book which was largely comprised of Paine’s Common Sense tract, which is now in public domain. Thanks Tom!
This is him being flattered.
He was pretty awful-looking. While we’re on Wikipedia, here is Gilray, a fellow doughty small-government critic of mobocracy, on him. Palz!
You should get more voting power based on how much you pay in taxes. And if you don’t pay any taxes, no voting. And if you receive welfare payments, you can’t vote either.
I can see this lasting just as long as it takes for the people with lots of taxes and therefore votes to change it so that they don’t have to pay any taxes and still get to vote more.
Obviously, people who pay the bulk of their taxes in state and local and sales taxes? You still don’t get to vote, because, you know, fuck you, poor people. Even if your actual taxes paid are higher as a percentage of your actual income than rich people with a high income from capital gains and really good accountants.
Glenn Beck is to Thomas Paine as Sarah Palin is to Dorothy Parker.
If Thomas Paine were alive today, he would call Glenn Beck a douchebag and punch him in his sorry ass clown face.
Glenn Beck : Thomas Paine :: a sole unwrapped Twinkie, left on the 7-Eleven bathroom floor for a week : mom’s apple pie with homemade whipped cream
If Thomas Paine were alive today the Fox News crowd wouldn’t need to say “Ward Churchill” except for variety.
http://www.earlyamerica.com/portraits/paine.html
He wasaverage looking.
St alec is referencing a political cartoon drawn by by the equivilant of a Fox News cartoonist of the day.
Glenn Beck is the 13th pouch on the leg-bandolier of a Rob Liefeld-drawn superhero of Liberal Fascism.
Thomas Paine once breast-fed an injured flamingo back to health!
That would be Beck, for sure. But I think the original description was meant to apply to Paine. Was he really that ugly?
Oopsie! Still, looking at the piccies, better than Beck.
Now that’s funny.
“If Thomas Paine were alive today the Fox News crowd wouldn’t need to say “Ward Churchill” except for variety.”
True, he would still be too left wing to get elected in this day and age which is progress I suppose because in his day and age he risked execution many times. England sentenced him to death in absentia.
So from then on, he never once more went to Absentia.
Obama’s Popularity Sinking said,
“Glenn Beck is the Thomas Paine of our times: an uncompromising critic of big government tyranny often derided as “ignorant” by his critics.”
Nobody ever called Paine ignorant you asshat. Radical, Treasonous Un-American, Seditionist, Nigger loving, Feminist, sure, but never Ignorant. You and Beck on the other hand are very ignorant and it is safe to say that Tom Paine would hold both of you in utter contempt.
Glenn Beck is the Thomas Paine of our times
A liberal?
the faster conservatives breed, the faster they have to found small christian colleges and think tanks to provide degrees and, eventually, jobs, for their dimwitted progeny. it’s an interesting cycle to watch.
“So from then on, he never once more went to Absentia.”
Which was a shame because I hear that Absentia is pretty nice this time of year. Lovely fauna.
OPS, whatever happened to you producing the “errors” of Howard Zinn?
You know what the founders really hated?
Change. Nothing but the status quo for those guys.
Thomas Paine is the Paine Webber of Pain-free Dentistry Theftism.
Point out the “errors” of Michael Moore or Noam Chomsky also if you have any balls.
the faster conservatives breed, the faster they have to found small christian colleges and think tanks to provide degrees and, eventually, jobs, for their dimwitted progeny
or to insulate their smarter progeny from any actual facts and understanding of the real world which might lead them to (gasp) liberalism!
“Thomas Paine is the Paine Webber of Pain-free Dentistry Theftism.”
He tried to sell that to Washington but would he listen? NOooo!
“You know what the founders really hated?
Change. Nothing but the status quo for those guys.”
That’s why they called them “Revolutionaries”! Which means “status quo” in Stupid.
I hope everyone’s taken note of the massive Howard Zinn freakout at Big Hollywood.
Liberals , apparently, are in denial that Hitler and the Nazi party were in fact Liberals (anti-Semitism is a well-documented characteristic of Liberal Christianity as is the PETA-like Green wing of the Third Reich[5])
Just FYI.
Errors of Howard Zinn:
http://97.74.65.51/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=17914
And Michael Moore:
http://www.slate.com/id/2102723/
Even people who are usually libs like Hitchens know Moore is full of it.
Oh, so Zinn is being talked about in the echo chamber? I thought it was an unusually literate figure for the troll to reference.
Christopher Hitchens is the Dolfuss of Liberal Fascism.
BOREING!
Glen Beck gets better mileage than than rice-burners!!!!!!!!!!!11
You know, because “zealot” doesn’t say much alone. You just add “religious” in as a modifier meaning “much much more zealotty”, because there never has been any sort of firm connotation of the word “religion” of having to do with the supernatural, and it isn’t some sort of play on words, because that’s been done a million times (there were, once poupon a time, you know, actual Communist and Marxist revolutionaries who were often described as secular converts and proselytizers) and also because you take the time to explain to people that, well, it isn’t really like religion, it’s just like religion, in that sort of zealot way.
The problem is that it’s in English. Let us hope that Andy Schlafly does a Winglish translation, like they’re doing for the bible, so everybody (that counts, that is!) can read it.
I never meant to say that turdmuffins and arseholes are generally trolls. I meant to say that trolls are generally turdmuffins and arseholes. I believe that is so obviously and universally admitted a principle that I hardly think any gentleman will deny it.
OIPS, point out a factual error, I read almost half of your link and all I came across is stinky horse shit. Can you do better? At least point to an error in the book rather than long drawn out right wing masturbation disguised as literary commentary.
The error is that Zinn considers economics central to history. You know, because money never motivated anyone to do anything.
For one thing Zinn’s book has ZERO footnotes. Some “scholarly” source. Nor does he have any end notes.
Howard Zinn is the Joseph Goebbels of liberal fascism and A People’s History is its Kristallnacht.
No citations, either, absolutely nothing.
Ha ha! You’re so big on your precious “education”, but I’ve read me a paragraph from one of your “books” and it sounds nothing like Wikipedia!!
Check and Matt Damon, loony libs!
http://hnn.us/articles/1493.html
Guys, be quick on the ball !
Fistigate is brewing !!!!
We need your anal-ysis.
Liberals , apparently, are in denial that Hitler and the Nazi party were in fact Liberals (anti-Semitism is a well-documented characteristic of Liberal Christianity as is the PETA-like Green wing of the Third Reich[5])
Pee J, Conservapedia also states that our resident troll is a goat fucker. Could they possibly be wrong on some minor point? Enquiring minds want to know.
He also said in his book that “violent crime continued to decrease” since 1991, when in fact it has gone down.
Right, because clearly Howard Zinn never knew that other, more mainstream books of U.S. history were available, and it says right in his foreword that any reader must sign a blood oath to read no other books on United States social and political history ever. It’s true.
It’s like how I read this one book one time about politics in Chile — and there was next to nothing in there about France!!! Like France just didn’t exist hardly!
More anti-American claptrap and errors from Zinn:
He has a conspiracy theory view of history.
For those who just can’t get enough Big: Coming soon, Big Journalism, followed by Big Jerusalem, Big Education, Big Peace, Big Foggy Bottom, which will focus on US foreign policy.
Obama’s Popularity Sinking said,
December 11, 2009 at 2:56
Aaaaaaaah, no. Try again.
If Thomas Paine were alive today, he would call Glenn Beck a douchebag and punch him in his sorry ass clown face.
If Thomas Paine were alive today the Fox News crowd wouldn’t need to say “Ward Churchill” except for variety.
I’m pretty sure that if Thomas Paine were alive today, he’d be desperately clawing at the inside of the lid on his coffin.
Sorry, Denis who?
Braaaaawwwwhaaaaahaaaahaaawhaaaw, that loser?
Who cares what he says. What’s he doing these days anyway selling used cars?
Anyhow: the reason that Zinn is aggressively reductive in APHUS is the same as the reason he uses a see-also instead of a works-cited – and the same reason it’s widely-read. The intent is not to provide some new scholarship, because the Beards were doing that while Civil War veterans were alive. The intent is to provide a pop history.
APHUS is no more “scholarly” than Cosmos or The Eyewitness Big Book of Kitty Cats. It’s pop history.
And I love that the best case this Frontpagemag twink can make against Zinn is his treatment of the Pequot War, an early, unimportant, and poorly-documented chapter in the history not of the US but of New England. It’s like making a case about a baseball scholar based on how accurate he is about tournaments of the 1840s. Of course, that is about what you should expect from FPM: special, clever boys with so much potential who get a pass because they believe the right things.
So, they are disagreeing with Zinn when he said “the American Revolution was a work of genius”? The traitorous, anti-Founder haters.
Doubters! Splitters! Cowards!
Ok, how about WWII? That big enough for you, Alec?
I guess according to Zinn we were just supposed to sit quietly and let him put Jews in ovens and conquer Europe, and let the Japanese rape China. After all ANYONE is better than those evil Americans, even Nazis.
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Also, if I were in charge APHUS would be read about when I read it, which is the eighth grade – it’s deliberately pedagogic, being more or less the Dreadnought of the “lies my teacher told me” genre. (Which isn’t unique to the left, but the other side tends to age much more poorly.)
And George Washington was not “the wealthiest man in America” as Zinn claims. Ever.
Zinn is a Marxist dumb dumb. But as United Empire Loyalist I have to say that the American Revolution was launched on the flimsiest of excuses and all the beautiful words were just rationalizations for skipping out on paying yer rent. Americans are the original dead beat tenants who in response to the landlords request for back rent say sorry mate this is our building now and if you don’t like it you’ll have to shoot us out of it. Shame the crown failed in that endeavor.
I don’t think he actually said that, and given that he fought in the war I am given to believe he didn’t think it either, but hey, I know how hard it is for you to read primary sources. It is cruel, after all, to expect you to slog through his big book, in which he generously spends the only words directed at the Nazis calling them tremendous assholes, without it being pre-chewed for your soft sensitive widdle gums.
OPS, I clicked on your link and I saw that it was by “Accuracy in Accademia”. Since they haven’t ever not lied, I assume their policy is the same so I ignored them.
Far from it, to be sure: he was the poorest man in America, and paintings from that era famously portray him in comical hobo garb begging for tuppence from the fellow Founders, using the Presidential mansion for moon-shining and hootenannies, etc.
Hey Northern Observer:
Canadian beer sucks even worse than Canadian weather, and Quebec should be independent.
Alec:
He says “the Nazis were bad BUT” and then talks about how horrible America is, and what about Vietnam, anyway? That’s just like what Hitler did to Poland, according to him.
And how exactly did rebuilding Germany and Japan provide the US economic dominance? Who is exactly dominating who economically between Japan and the US right now (and to a lesser extent Germany?) It was really stupid of us to rebuild them for free if we inteded to make them slave satellite colonies.
Oh and of course the Japanese were poor, poor oppressed “people of color” according to Zinn so they were entitled to world conquest.
Right: we gave the Vietnamese free backrubs, just like Hitler did to the Poles, as reputable reportage agency Frontpagemag.com demonstrates. I don’t see what the problem is here?
And Mistuh Zinn says nothin’ about how us What Chrisssstian folk helped them darkies advayance in thuh world bah bringin’ em ovah from Afraka, and givin’ ’em propah jobs rat offa thuh boat. And how did them Mexislamohomonegrofascists repay us? Bah askin’ for “civil rights” and “Equality” and “anti-lynchin'” laws! Whah don’t Mistuh Zinn address that in his fancy college-boy book?
Ah may get the vaypahs!!!
I think if you ask ANY black, they’d say they’re glad their ancestors were brought here since if they weren’t they’d be living in shithole Africa right now eating dirt.
Alec you’re stunningly ignorant, we were trying to save the Vietnamese from World Communism, which has killed 100s of millions of people, many more than the United States ever did.
I like that he’s treating arguing with a pop-history aimed at schoolchildren as if it proves that he is a smart and we a dumb after all. Oh, and it turns out Howard Zinn would rather California be filled with Mexicans maybe?? Bookmark this, libs.</i
California ISN’T filled with Mexicans?
Far from it, to be sure: he was the poorest man in America, and paintings from that era famously portray him in comical hobo garb begging for tuppence from the fellow Founders, using the Presidential mansion for moon-shining and hootenannies, etc.
He couldn’t even afford wooden teeth!
Yes, I, am.
Which we did by giving them free back rubs, as Zinn believed Hitler did to Europe. Again, I’m not seeing the issue here.
Hitler invaded Poland to conquer it, exploit it, and put Jews and slavs in ovens.
We fought for the Vietnamese people to protect them from international Communism.
Zinn says these things are comparable. I don’t think so, and neither would any objective adult.
In his day, they dreamed of whittling their own teeth from wood. He had to work twenty hours down mill just to get half a talc stone from the Prince of Wales.
Not according to Howard Zinn: you clearly said he believed Europe would be better off if Hitler had been allowed to defend it from our capitalist menace.
Which he did, as we did in Vietnam, with the judicious use of free backrubs.
Jeez, it’s not my fault you can’t read your own posts.
Your own garden Zinn for just $134!
Via.
Unless OPS is actually Dennis Miller, I’m disappointed in this thread’s continuity.
And if he is, well, good show.
A.G. Bell was raised and educated in Scotland and England….and Kenya!!!!!!!!!!!.
Stop boring me with silly details and word games, Alec.
And I never said anything about back rubs.
My point is this: Zinn believes the United States is always wrong in every war it ever fought, because he hates this country. He hates it and he hates the ideas it was founded on. He much prefers Castro’s Cuba, which he said “has no bloody record of repression[!!]” But strangely, he doesn’t move there! hmmmmm…..
OPS go away. You may return only by demonstrating the capcity to form an original thought. It doesn’t have to be novel, nor unique, but unless you put it together yourself, stfu.
As for the love of soldiers, OPS has still failed to prove his (her/it’s?) membership in the 10th Mounted Sea Division (AIRBORNE!) Dragoon Warriors. This is central to my point, and proves that Dennis Miller won’t return OPS’s phone calls and faxes anymore.
Bookmark this, verily.
“Shut up, infidel dog!”
…because he hates this country. [citation needed]
He had to work twenty hours down mill just to get half a talc stone from the Prince of Wales.
You know who else had to work twenty hours…….aw, fuck it.
Your own garden Zinn for just $134!
I have no garden, but I need one of these in my life. Would it be creepy to keep it in my kitchen?
Silly details like the core of your malformed argument and word games like the fundamental rules of English, yes. I’m incorrigible.
No mention of backrubs in a discussion about the Vietnam War? And you call me ignorant.
Our fundamental difference is that, unlike Zinn, me, and most of the country, you don’t consider anyone but angry well-heeled whites part of the United States. Which is fine and all, but you’re wrong and you’re a grotesquely ugly freak. Just sayin’.
I think the amusing part is that he has to set the bar really, really low to make any headway — and yet he still stumbles over it. I mean he’s calling himself “Obama’s popularity sinking” even though this immediately reminds you of Bush’s 29% and complaining about “unproductive” members of society even though he is clearly unemployed and spends all his time reading crappy essays about how awful some cheap history book is, and repeating the essay’s words verbatim — because reading actual books is too much work, as is independent thought. And all the pathetic repetition. It’s just sad. I think he really is kind of subnormal.
Why don’t you move to Saudi Arabia, Snarla? I think that country would be right up your alley, lots of Arabs and no nasty, terrorist Christians there!
Well, the backrubs are free, but anything more will cost ya.
If you love America so much why don’t you move there?? Fag!!
A simple question for Alec that the President was unable to answer:
Do you believe in American exceptionalism?
Remember when we lost the Vietnam war, and so Vietnam was like North Korea for the next 40 years. That sucked pretty hard.
OPS can you post pictures of yourself shirtless, for my research project. This is extremely important.
I think you mean geophagy.
If by “unable to answer” you mean “repeatedly answered directly and affirmatively every time it’s been posed to him, even in venues where a “no” answer would be welcomed”, then I applaud your insight, sir.
American exceptionalism is a core belief across the political spectrum. It might be comforting to imagine the horrible libruls snickering at America and praying for its downfall in their nasty little covens behind your back, but it’s not true. Nobody remotely cynical about American foreign policy or American history has occupied any public office of any note in generations, and that includes public offices whose ambit has nothing to do with American foreign policy or American history.
Senator McCarthy was holding a laundry list. There is no fifth column and there never was, and anyone who tells you there is is a cynical hack trying to rob you blind.
I don’t believe in American exceptionalism at all, and I’ve never claimed to. I’ve never met someone who sincerely disbelieves in it and claims not to. You crazy fucking imbecile.
It is shocking that there is someone writing history from a left populist Marxist perspective. There is something wrong with America that we let this happen when Sarah Palin can hardly write editorials and be on TV every day saying what she thinks without liberals sneering at her which is 30x worse that what Hitler did to the Native Americans in ‘Democratic’ Kampuchea.
So are you a Marxist, Alec, or a “Democratic Socialist”? I doubt I will get a sincere answer from you.
Awwww. Troofie’s got a new crush.
Oh, yes. Because I spend all day quaking in fear of what will happen if you find out what I really believe. You can’t believe how shameful it is having opinions. I think I’d get disowned if it came out, and the mayor would hit me in the stomach and call me a knave.
I am a radical libertarian anarchist socialist vegan, with heavily embraced hypocritical tendencies, including that I eat meat and dairy even though I shouldn’t, and I have a few electronic gadgets I like instead of entirely saving up for the revolution and doing libertarian collages.
See? No sincere answer. You’re a Comsymp. Back in ’30s you would have been apologizing for Stalin, in the ’60s you would have been making excuses for Mao, and no doubt now you can find all kinds of reasons for Islamist terror.
Back at my remedial high school, we would have called you a fucking retard!!!
No, wait, wrong gay fantasy.
You said people “all across the political spectrum” agree with American exceptionalism, then say you don’t. Which means you’re not in the American political spectrum, are you? You’re not mainstream, so you you’re not even a lib then? You’re even further left?
Well, it could be that I feel like mocking you for posing a question I’d answer honestly if asked by the police as if you were Woodward and fucking Bernstein cornering Nixon in his web of deceit, but you know, Occam’s Razor. Allahu akbar!!1
“American exceptionalism” is a pernicious concept that has harmed Americans almost as much as it has harmed the rest of the world. It is a large part of the reason why we are intellectually lazy warmongerers. The sooner it’s dead and gone, the better.
Holy shit! It’s Frank Burns!!!!!!!!!!11
The fact is, when liberals say global warming is happening they are like Hitler, so Sarah Palin and Ayn Rand are like Churchill.
People who think Americans are humans like other people outside America are traitor fifth columnists who should get what’s coming to them, although I couldn’t tell you the other four columns which should be here.
You know who else sincerely believed in his country’s exceptionalism?
……
David Brooks is the Neville Chamberlain of Liberal Fascism
The fact is, if you don’t believe in American Exceptionalism and you are an American, screw you. Get out. God hates you.
Don’t know much about geophagy
Don’t know much climatology
Don’t know much about these Miller quotes
Don’t know much about Kaus’s goats
According to Alec and TruculentandUnreliable think America is just another, random country, somewhere between Albania and Zimbabwe on the U.N. roll call.
Well, it turns out I wasn’t satisfied lying about whether pretending to drown a guy was constitutional, so I had to go deeper. I had transcended the DNC line and, like every gateway-drug user, was soon mainlining Black Panther tracts. I’m constantly lying for the Motherland. One time a clerk even asked me if I wanted paper or plastic and, instead of telling her I wanted to bankrupt both the oil and the timber industry out of my profound hatred for America, I said “plastic”.
What I’m getting at here is CURSE YOU RICHARDS!! YOU WON’T ESCAPE THE GRASP OF DOOM THIS TIME!!!1
Give me a straightforward answer, are you a Marxist or not Alec?
I love the way that, every time it is demonstrated that Troofie has lied, he just plows straight ahead as though nothing happened.
Why? Simple: because this imbecile lies so much he no longer considers it a big deal if others notice. And amazingly enough, he’s pretty much like everyone on the Right these days.
People who hate America and doubt the role of American Adsorptionalism to our precious body public should completely separate themselves from any attraction to this nation and let us build a van der Waals to keep them out.
You know back in the 30’s we would have people like you Compsymppups arrested and put into jails, stripped and beaten. Then we would have lathered you with lard and oil, and really get busy… um. And we would stop you forcing things down our throat even though we keep yelling “Green Balloots!”, which is close to the safe word, but not really, because we love to fantasize about “rough men” “visiting violence” because SHUT UP.
Yes, I am a Marxist or not.
Not as entertaining as the schtick, was it? I know what I’m doing here, kid. Don’t worry.
“Obama’s Popularity Sinking said,
December 11, 2009 at 0:07
So making $90k a year is “rich” now? Before it was over $250k. Funny how libs keep moving the definition of “rich” downward, isn’t it?
Only a matter of time before it’s $50k and over.
First they came for the Jews…etc”
Jesus, the smug ignorance on display here is depressing. Really, it’s enough to make me want to put a bullet in the stupid fucker’s head just to put him out of my misery.
Alec, are you a Marxist?
I’m not Alec.
No.
Your Pulitzer is in the mail, sir.
HITLER Churchill, that is. And guess what? Neither of them are in the…
I wouldn’t say I’m a Marxist per se, but I am partial to Duck Soup.
Are you some brand of Socialist, Alec?
Because this is central to the point I will make about people who don’t American exceptionalism. You already said liberals do (“all across the political spectrum”) so I guess you’re not a lib, right?
To me, “rich” is having enough income lined up to not only pay this month’s bills, but next month’s as well.
Is Sam Walton a Marxist?
At the moment he is repeating a single question at one particular commenter over and over again in order to avoid responding himself and disguise the fact that he has completely failed. But it doesn’t work because it’s too obvious.
It’s kind of like how the repetition of “Obama’s popularity sinking” keeps reminding you of those 27%, 28% Bush figures, or of the fact that the popularity of the Republican Party is still in the twenties.
‘Course I haven’t had a job since 1982 and am accustomed to scrambling.
Is it just me, or is the first reel of any Marx Brothers picture deliberately sort of shitty? I mean, Duck Soup’s first reel basically consists of costumes and Groucho being mildly wry, and this is a movie in which a mute smears grease-paint on a vase to fool the Italian hordes.
By the way, if you take the American South outta them there ‘popularity’ polls, suddenly Obama’s popularity goes way, way up — because, believe it or not, the majority of the nation doesn’t see things the Mississippi white conservative way.
And guess what, El Cid? If you take out the blacks, his approval is even lower. Among whites it has slipped to 35%.
central to the point ?
I thought that was just a S,N! in-joke. It’s real?
Sure, I don’t American exceptionalism, so I socialism of some kind. I’ll give you that.
The issue is that guys like me spend their days making dick jokes on blogs and our opposite number on the right are in charge of the country’s second-largest party. I’ll grant that my life is more fulfilling and meaningful on a cosmic scale than Erick Erickssosoon, but nobody’s ever bought a bag of rock salt from me to mail to a senator.
well, one of the unique american things is having 3 jobs, so I guess unless you aren’t working 28 hours per day, you are not a patriot.
Has this been done here yet–?
http://www.centralpointoregon.gov/
But you know what, dumbass? Voting is by geography, not by race, fucktard, so Democrats win national elections without the South, jackhole.
And if you take out everyone but Jews his approval rating is in the 70s. It’s interesting to pollsters, yes, but your fundamental premise is that it’s meaningful, and it isn’t. It’s like arguing that Whole Foods arugula is what man should subsist on because it was not grown with artificial chemicals, by which I mean that it makes you an idiot.
It’s not like it has much work to do, but it does what God set it aside to, bless its little heart.
If you take out humans, and only count fish, his approval goes to 30%, which is still higher than you. know. who.
According to Alec and TruculentandUnreliable think America is just another, random country, somewhere between Albania and Zimbabwe on the U.N. roll call.
Clearly we Americans need to invent a new letter to place ourselves outside the mundane roll call of the United Nations. I know! From now on we’ll call ourselves the ?nited ?tates of ?meric?!
Now THAT’S ?????????????!!!¡¡¡¡!!!!
Virginia, North Carolina, and Florida are all southern and Hopey is in trouble if he can’t keep them in the Democrat column, El Cid.
Fuck you, Troofus, just so you know your little display has convinced me to get off my ass and find a socialist party organization I can get behind here in Los Angeles and start working with it.
Let’s just face it, anything short of democratic socialism eventually falls into the kind of bullshit two-tiered society where the super-rich shit on everyone else and guys like you run around with your tongues out begging to lick their assholes clean.
Pardon my French, gentle commenters, but he pissed me off.
I have no garden, but I need one of these in my life
Roommate and I are hotly debating the Zinn vs Chomsky gnome to replace the ceramic Buddha out in front that got busted a few months ago. I’m only sad that there isn’t a Lakoff gnome.
Citation needed. I don’t buy it because his approval rating is very, very, VERY low in Israel. At 6%, if I remember. That’s lower than Bush, libs. They know he’s selling out Jews to appease the Arabs.
See?
http://blogs.jta.org/politics/article/2009/12/09/1009644/dont-believe-todays-obamas-jewish-poll-numb
Exactly, which is why the Republicans have done so well for Democrats by isolating themselves out of all the rest of the country; New England now has no Republican House members.
Hey, but, don’t listen to me — keep on banging the Tea Party drum for the Revolutionary Neo-Confederate Republican Party of the Dixie Baptist Deregulatory uprising, though, ’cause it’s really helping you in all the areas of the country which aren’t the South.
Democrats would be fully able to lose states on their own, mostly by aping Republicans, but, nooooooo, Republicans have to go out and make themselves into such ridiculous jackasses that Democrats’ clever plans at incompetence are interrupted by huge geographic and demographic advantages. Curse you meddling Republicans!
Among 18-29 year olds, the Republican Party’s approval rating is 8%.
It doesn’t matter, ACORN flakes, because young people are the hardest hit by the Obama recession and the longer they stay unemployed, the more they’re going to question their beliefs.
Right, because Florida is won or lost by the votes of crackers and the Republican Party is more popular than ever among the Jews and Hispanics whose participation is usually credited with national race results there.
See, this is your problem. You don’t actually think things through. You believe that any day now Real America is going to see things the way you see them and everyone will laugh and laugh at the people who thought they were so smart with their progressive taxes and their affirmative action, and the news only exists to either confirm your beliefs or confirm that there’s a vast conspiracy against them.
This is a comedy blog. You’ve been repeatedly pantsed by college students, furries, old men, and the French. It’s not like this is some kind of forensics society; this is the least rigor your core beliefs could be subjected to and they crack like a fucking saltine under the strain.
This is the future.
Because all Jews throughout the world are a monolith with the same beliefs and opinions, and also American Jews live and work in Israel and as such know nothing about Obama but his stance on settlement-building.
Saltine.
Alec, you’ll see “Real America” in 2010 and 2012, and you will see that we already ARE the majority! I can’t wait.
Now, that’s being a bit harsh.
I’ve had plenty of saltines with more durability than this.
It doesn’t matter, ACORN flakes, because young people are the hardest hit by the Obama recession and the longer they stay unemployed, the more they’re going to question their beliefs.
And realize that socialism is awesome.
Oh wait, they have already been underemployed for years, and so they already do.
Yee haa!!!
Anyway, I got you to respond to me, which demonstrates that I rattled you. Which is dee-licious.
Bookmark this, libs. This is how I will go down…
The MSM isn’t reporting on it, but theres a huge surge of anger against high taxes, big government, and Socialism. I see it all around where I live, maybe someone in the Upper East Side or in Hollywood wouldn’t see it since they hate “flyover country”, but get out of the city and into the real world and you’ll see it. Americans are MAD. And we VOTE.
Now let’s see how this endless repetition and quoting thing works.
“The MSM still books more Republican than Democratic talking heads on the Sunday shows and anytime they bitch and moan they give them a medium to do it on. But next time you see one of them spouting off on some TV show or hear CNN talking about the “massive” teabagger party think about the fact that the Republican party is 8 (or possibly even just 5) points away from having a 0 percent approval rating from everyone in the country born after 1980.”
We don’t want anymore taxes, ok? No more taxes. No more debt. No more bailouts. No more nationalizations. No more spending. No more surrendering to terror and groveling to foreign leaders. No more lies about health care, and propaganda from the lib MSM, and attacks on religion and the family. We won’t have it anymore soon, we’re PISSED OFF.
Since I don’t have the money for full Gallup crosstabs, here’s the geographic breakdown of the most recent (Nov 30th – Dec 3rd) Research 2000 polls for Obama’s favorable, unfavorable, no opinion ratings:
Dixiepublican Teabagger Powers, ACTIVATE! Form of, an ice pitcher full of crazy tea!
Americans are MAD. And we VOTE.
See: Elections of 2006 and 2008
Well, let’s look at some of the up-and-coming rising stars of the young republicans… oh, dear.
See,
the youths love us!we love kids!More Americans live in the New York metropolitan area than Alabama, Mississippi and Arkansas combined.
So who’s the “Real America” again?
The MSM isn’t reporting on it, but theres a huge surge of anger against high taxes, big government, and Socialism.
Eight percent.
Among the generation hardest hit by underemployment.
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Possibly lower. Possibly as low as five.
Obama gave me a tax cut. If there weren’t so many Republicans in my state government, then we could shift the local tax burden off lower and middle income folks, which is how the super-rich want it, because the merely upper-middle class are the super-rich’s hired prostitutes who go around the country screaming about taxes so that the poor and the middle income folk can bear heavier local tax burdens and the super-rich can get off lighter than ever!
New Yorkers are soft, urban elitists. They live in small little shoebox apartments, don’t have lawns, usually don’t have cars, they have to cram in the subway with a bunch of weirdos every day, their city is full of illegals and gays…that’s nothing like America.
America is about having a big ass SUV with a big, green lawn, living in a big house, having lots of space and PRIVACY and 2.5 kids and a dog, and people speaking ENGLISH.
Give me a straightforward answer, are you a Marxist or not Alec?
Hey! Hands off my schtick, asshole!
You voted in 2004 and you voted in 2008. Real America has been voting the same way since Reagan and will probably vote that way until the Republican Party disbands altogether. Obama got 9% of the vote in Alabama, but he won the election because Indiana and Iowa and Nevada and Virginia and Florida and North Carolina – and, for that matter, the other twenty-some states that moved a category to the left but started as “strong Republican” instead of “weak Republican” – were willing to vote for close to anything but Four More Years and his sexy sidekick.
You’re never going to have what you had under Bush again. I guess this kind of thing is a fair coping mechanism, but you shouldn’t get too optimistic. People tend to make fun of you for it. You might want to keep that in mind – bookmark it, even.
Alec, Jimmy Carter won in 1976 but four years later we had the Reagan landslide. this country remains center-right. Obama is a bump in the road, like Carter, a backlash to an unpopular President who was hated by the MSM but will be better remembered in history. Face it, when you ask Americans their political ideology in polls, FAR MORE say “conservative” than “liberal” or even “moderate”. Chew on that one.
The things they disliked Bush for were the LIBERAL things he did. They wanted a conservative. They still do. Hopey is governing FAR to the left of where he campaigned, just like Carter.
Dixiepublican Teabagger Powers, ACTIVATE! Form of, an ice pitcher full of crazy tea!
Can I get a Big Gulp of that to go, for my friend Troofie here? He’s a little thrsty.
No lemon.
I’m sorry. I gave out-of-date figures.
We regret the error.
The correct figure is now 7%.
The only people who use the term “flyover country” are right-wing pundits who, oddly enough, tend to live on the coasts.
Then America is smaller than Portugal. You learn something new every day!
See, it’s bullshit like this that caused Reno and Indianapolis and Raleigh and Alexandria to give up on you altogether. Converting the last Democrat in Stump Lick isn’t going to win you anything but a handjob from Reagan’s ghost.
It’s really difficult for right wingers to pretend to like New York when it’s time to scream about how we got to bomb some brown people to Keep New York City Safe for 7 1/2 years while simultaneously loathing the tens of millions of New Yorkers who are, actually, New Yorkers, and act and vote the way they do.
I didn’t know that you admired Reagan because he was a return to the good old days of President Ford.
Even I thought better of him than that, and I’ve been stalking Jodie Foster.
Who cares about what young people think when they’re young? They don’t vote and the fact the Democrat Party is mostly popular among immature pot smoking slackers should surprise nobody. Even Kerry won the 18-29 year old group.
I was talking about Nixon, not Ford.
Nixon did the best he could to advance a conservative agenda, and was brilliant in foreign policy, but the media hated him and wanted to bring him down because he wasn’t an eastern elite like them.
So much for callow youth. What do the oldest and wisest among us think?
Among those over sixty, the approval rating of the GOP is…
20%
Hopey is governing FAR to the left of where he campaigned, just like Carter.
You mean like when he deregulated the airlines and the trucking industry? Nothing says “far left” quite like deregulating an entire industry.
Nixon was the first elected Orthogonian American but you racist liberals won’t recognize ethnic diversity if it hasn’t been blessed by Maya Angelou waving a Native American feather dipped in the blood of a handicapped lesbian vegan guide dog.
Young urban Americans are losing faith in Black Osama and soon they will vote for the candidates who tell them what they know in their heart to be true: “Get off my lawn, you mop-topped faggits!”
No more taxes. No more debt.
See, the difference between people like me and people like you is, I can dissect in two very short, succinct sentences – two of your very own sentences, in fact – why your “theories” about the economy are full of shit.
Or maybe I’m full of shit, and the $5 trillion in war debt and rich people’s tax breaks piled up by your hero – and however many trillions were added to it when the natural fruits of his neglect of reason and common sense came to full fruition just over a year ago – will just evaporate into the ether without, you know, somehow paying it off. Maybe the government should hold a bake sale?
Why don’t you see how many people call themselves “conservative” in those age groups vs. moderate or liberal? Hmmmmm?
They are abandoning the GOP because it WASN’T CONSERVATIVE ENOUGH, but that is starting to change. Again, we WERE NOT RIGHT WING ENOUGH in Bush’s second term or in the 2008 election. Look at who we nominated, McCain. A moderate who Kerry even wanted to select for his VP in 2004.
When Jimmy Carter suggested we wear sweaters in the winter and turn down the thermostat a couple of degrees to conserve fuel and electricity, it was like Real America was continuously slapped in the face with Mao’s Little Red Book if it were shaped like a giant black dildo.
Now what happens if we refer specifically to Republican Congressmen?
Approval rating among 18-29 year olds:
A nice healthy 6%
Among those over 60:
A bracing, sea-breezy 14%
The fact is, being American is mostly about God blessing you to be successfull, unlike the communists who were Godless and NOT sucksessful.
When we run weak moderates like Ford, Bush Sr. in 1992, and McCain we lose.
When we run CONSERVATIVES like Reagan and George W. Bush (in his first term) we WIN.
Who cares about what young people think when they’re young?
Fourty-four or fight!
So all this “the troops support …” is a bunch of bullshit? Because most soldiers (or at least the ones you’d label “the troops”) are, you know, young people.
Are you a Baldwin or not, Alec?!?!?!?
The fact is, liberals are very very very hard far left and hate USA.
We’re going to nominate a real right-winger in 2012 and get the conservatives back in the saddle of the party.
Just as the Mayans prophesied. Kicking it old school. I can dig it.
Face it, when you ask Americans their political ideology in polls, FAR MORE say “conservative” than “liberal” or even “moderate”. Chew on that one.
2008 Presidential election results:
Barack Obama 365 electoral votes, 69,456,897 popular votes
John McCain 173 electoral votes, 59,934,814 popular votes
Polls that don’t go against what I’m saying don’t count because they’ll change due to the fact that shut hell up. Polls that support what I’m saying will be repeated nonstop. I don’t care about young voters, like the College Republicans, because they are young. I support the teabaggers because they are wild, angry and the name reminds me of a time in my life I’d rather not discuss.
Dern it. I was going to guess that Obama’s drop in approval among the Jewish public was because he wasn’t being far left enough.
The fact is, I want a president who kicks out all the foreighn terrorists and USA haters who do not stand up for freedom, and those who presecute Christians.
No, they hated him because he did something reminiscient of the Eastern Bloc and then lied about it to our faces for a year. Also, because he campaigned on honorable victory in Vietnam and gave us a six-year bombing campaign and vague mutterings about Vietnamization.
And he was also the last major liberal Republican – his hand-picked successor faced the only major primary chalenge from Ronald Reagan!
I’m really sorry I got on your ass about not knowing shit about Lincoln. I’m pretty sure you were alive for Watergate and the EPA, and yet you remember neither.
Woodward and Bernstein are the guys who caught him, just so you know, and the EPA, or the “Environmental Protection Agency”, was Nixon’s response to Silent Spring, the Mein Kampf of liberal fascism. Oh, and when I was talking about Lincoln confiscating the property of the South? Yeah, that was what slavery was, the idea that human beings were private property. Isn’t that crazy?
If Republicans ran with a true conservative like Sarah Palin or Dick Cheney or Jim DeMint or James Inhofe, then they would DOMINATE places like New York and Pennsylvania and Illinois and California and Oregon and Washington and Iowa and everywhere. It’s true.
When we run CONSERVATIVES like Reagan and George W. Bush (in his first term) we WIN.
Hmmm. Well, first of all, George W. Bush didn’t “win” his first term – you know, the one where more people – including those in Florida, voted for Al “Hitler” Gore – and where George W. Bush ran as a moderate, “compassionate” conservative. So your explanation is two, two, two FAILS in one.
America is about having a big ass…
‘Nuff said, OPS.
They are abandoning the GOP because it WASN’T CONSERVATIVE ENOUGH,
I absolutely agree. I think that the very best thing they could do is to just keep right on doing their Flush Limbo Fox Snooze Terri Schiavo thing forever and forever and ever.
The very best thing for us, I mean.
PS: seven percent! That’s… what? one in fourteen?
Nixon just imposed wage & price controls to make the liberals think he was an activist big government type so that he could have more time to drop several WWII’s worth of bombs on Cambodian peasants which helped save them from the not-bombing they had been threatened by before we got there.
Sorry, it’s not actually one in fourteen.
It’s LESS than that.
Face it, when you ask Americans their political ideology in polls, FAR MORE say “conservative” than “liberal” or even “moderate”. Chew on that one.
I would be concerned about that if not for the fact that 70% of Americans are not clinically insane.
Obama will never catch up with me.
Yeah, fuck McGovern and all his gay ass military medals for his faggoty pot-smoking duty flying B-24’s over the left’s favorite hippie gathering spot of Germany.
His gay peace & love ass wasn’t even worth shining the shoes of real military men like Nixon or Spiro Agnew or Henry Kissinger.
If you ain’t President of the white Confederacy, well, you ain’t really President, then, is ya?
I’m not sure which is the weaker example of speculative fiction – the episode of Fringe playing on the tube, or the quotes of the moron I’m seeing in between dancing badgers.
I wasn’t aware that the people responsible for deciding if you were stealing money from the state of Maryland were members of the media. The things you learn from wingnuts!
You’re entirely wrong. Agnew was a pretty face and both HW and Ford were significantly to the right of Nixon on most salient issues, and your dismissal of Dole is particularly hilarious, because Ford – in the face of a primary challenge from Reagan, who headed up the far right of the party – abandoned Rockefeller for Bob Dole, a Kansan known at the time primarily for being the most dignified and courteous member of the faction of Goldwater and Reagan.
Also, never mind that Bush’s campaign in 2000 revolved around “compassionate conservatism”, or that in 2004 we were at war and the opposition candidate wouldn’t come out against it. It can all be boiled into Conservative Good, Liberal Bad.
I’m surprised we even need elections, what with conservative candidates winning every one that happens. We should just have people huddle up and prove how conservative they are, the way y’all have with Palin.
Those neo-cons and their saddlebacking.
Agnew was a pretty face
I don’ wanna see the inside of your locker door.
So if you were to shoot dead the left-wing half of the twentysomethings, and then divide everyone who was still alive into “left” and “right”, then shoot everyone labelled “left”, and then divide up everyone who was still alive, then shoot those labelled “left”, then the Republican Party would scrape in with a majority — just.
LBJ was at least smart enough to wiretap Nixon committing treason by negotiating with the South Vietnamese behind the actual government’s back, delaying peace talks, but for some bullshit reason LBJ kept it hidden so as not to do ‘damage’ to American democracy.
40% of Americans claim to be conservative – an only slight increase from the 2008 election cycle, in which the number claiming to be “liberal” was roughly the same. And yet Democratic party membership has overtaken Republican party membership in almost every traditional swing state, even though Republican party membership has been much weaker in predicting voting behavior than Democratic.
It’s almost as if everyone but a devoted cadre of partisan knob-slobbers have concluded that what’s left of the GOP are amoral, power-hungry idiots and consider pursuing their agenda through the wide and popular Democratic Party more reasonable than pursuing it through an increasingly dogmatic and lustrative Republican Party.
Alternatively, teh MSM buttox.
Unless of course you are talking about Congressional Republicans, in which case killing 7 out of 8 people for being too left-wing still wouldn’t be enough to get a majority approval rating.
WERE NOT RIGHT WING ENOUGH
well, I hope they keep fucking THAT chicken.
Yeah, only because People Of A Certain Age™ still associate the word “conservative” with with its former meaning– “cautious, deliberate, a bit of a penny-pincher but generally sensible”– not the more modern “confused radical anti-government Know Nothing” definition that you’re using.
But, you know, whatever. If it helps to fill your empty meaningless existence to play 18th century dress-up and pretend that you’re some kind of brave patriot taking Your America™ back by trolling a comedy blog, I say rock out. I only hope that you don’t actually think that you’re doing anything of real consequence, though. That kind of latter-day disillusionment and impotent rage can really fuck you up.
I’m shocked that when polled many Americans express an identification with what sounds like a general positive principle.
I am a radical libertarian anarcho-socialist by ideological declaration, yet if you ask me, “Would you describe yourself as conservative?”, I’m going to answer “Yes,” because I try not to waste stuff and I believe in keeping communities strong and families together and the like.
I’m really shocked that more Americans don’t agree with questions like “Are you some kind of faggot ass weirdo ultra-lib communist?”
Best part: in the Republicans’ darkest hours in 2008 they pointed to similar polls of ideological identification to “prove” that the MSM was just biased, that Obama couldn’t possibly win, etc.
Then Indiana voted for a Democrat for the first time since Roosevelt. I would wager they still consider themselves conservative, it’s just that they’re not interested in being disposable scut-boys for Kentucky any more.
You’ll be sorry when you step outside your gay cross-dressing Berkeley latte shop and notice that 95% of Americans are actually 18th century yeoman farmers.
Bad news. An interesting link at the endtimes
Maybe to you, but as 2008 amply demonstrated, you’re not representative of any “conservative” who wouldn’t fit in in the Klan.
Of course it doesn’t matter whether they label themselves “conservative” or not, so long as they vote correctly. And so far it looks as if they will.
Barack Obama’s approval rating among 18-29-year-olds is a bouncy 78%. That of course inevitably includes plenty of self-styled conservatives who just realize that he’s awesome.
18th century yeoman farmers.
Janice Rand was a farmer and a republican? This puts a whole new spin on the 24th century.
No matter how small this closet gets, no matter how uncomfortable, I’m never coming out! Ever!
Scozzafava considered herself “conservative” (and was, by NY standards), and what happened to her? Sarah Palin called her a Communist for not agreeing with her on everything, as if she was the fucking Pope or something.
And now NY-23 is in Democratic hands for the first time since Reconstruction. Sensing a pattern here?
Lyndon Johnson had the FBI investigate Martin Luther King. I bet you don’t learn that in publik skool.
Yeah? And Carter had the FBI surveille the Sex Pistols when they did their brief American tour in 1977. Which proves that all presidents are prone to doing some silly shit. Though Hoover would have been spying on MLK regardless of whether Johnson knew about it or not.
Forty percent say they are conservative. I realize nobody wants to talk about that on here.
OK, let’s say that this is true and that Gallup is an accurate and trustworthy polling company. And let’s say that all of those 40% managed to show up at the polls to vote for John McCain because they had believed everything that Rush, Hannity, O’Reilly, Coulter, et al were saying about teh eeeevil mask Mooslim Barack Hussein Obama Sotero X 33-to-the-fifth-power.
How is it that they could only convince 5.7% of moderates that Obama’s eeeevil was so strong that it would rend space and time into a USA shaped black hole? FOX News is the most watched cable news outlet in America, right? Conservative talk radio comprises 90% of the political talk market, right? Rupert Murdoch is the owner of New York’s second most read newspaper, right?
Even you predicted that McCain would stand victorious, because even if he was “too moderate” for you, it was better than having a black man as President, right? And surely there are millions and millions of people just… like… you, right? So what’s the problem, bitch?
In 2006, it was “the permanent Republican majority is inevitable; I have the math.” In 2008, it was “Bookmark it, liberals!” What will it be in 2010? Please give us a prediction. I’m looking forward to it, bookmark a-waitin’.
McCain couldn’t have won Pennsylvania with Jesus’s endorsement, and his staking his Presidency on it was a clear sign that the campaign had gone off the rails. He was trying to win the state by appealing to the weak resentment of the rural 30% towards the urban and suburban 70%.
Sound like anything else we’ve seen lately?
So how many of the 40% in your poll are libs in Republican clothing? Surely it’s just the one bad apple, I suppose.
2010’s right-wing repetitious image will be Rush, Beck, and Palin watching the sun set from three claw-foot tubs set side by side.
2010’s right-wing repetitious image will be Rush, Beck, and Palin watching the sun set from three claw-foot tubs set side by side.
With the Cialis theme music running in the background.
Which they will do by constantly calling the 10% of the electorate who voted for someone else in 2008 traitors. To be fair, that’s how I’ve always made friends.
I believed in American Exceptionalism until January 6, 2001, at which point the guy who lost the election was certified as president of the United States. He went on let the biggest terrorist attack in history happen on his watch before he started an unjust war on transparently false pretenses while gang-raping the Bill of Rights and then he was fucking reelected. America, exceptional? Exceptionally stupid.
There’s a lot to be said for not taking people’s ideological self identification with lots of salt. Paul Rosenburg at Openleft has dug into the General Social Survey data and finds:
People rate themselves on a scale from 1 to 7. Even the “7”s (most conservative) find more support for increasing social spending than decreasing it.
Why America doesn’t have a better safety net is basically all about racism. Those people will take all the money. Every ideological subgroup supports social spending in the abstract.
If you experience a sudden decrease of electoral votes, call your
doctora non-fascist.But still exceptional!
The 2010 election will be when the Republicans take back the House and quite possibly the Senate, Aspie.
Bookmarked. Thank you so very, very much! I’m sure I speak for the non-trolly Sadly Nosians to say it does our heart good to see you make such a confident prediction.
Did you know that Republican Congressmen have a 6% approval among 18-29-year-olds? Pass it on!
You predicted two heavily favored Republican gubernatorial races going Republican, which makes you a prophet, and also you predicted one of New England’s more conservative districts abandoning the Redstate ringer in response to the party burying a well-liked local Republican exemplar.
You did predict that, right? Oh, wait, no, I remember now, ACORN stole the election. Just like they stole 2008. But no chance they’ll steal 2010 or 2012, because 40% of Americans have taken a loyalty test to prove they’re not ACORN plants like that one black Hoffman worker.
I think the thing I like about you most is when you get proud about what could generously be called your accomplishments. It’s like a dog being proud of wearing clothes. It’s adorable.
The governor’s races in NJ and VA were the most important elections of the new century, except the previous time in which these were won by Democrats, and the Congressional elections at the same time which were won by Democrats in a heavily Republican district of New York and in which an even more liberal Democrat came in in California were not important, because important elections are won by Republicans.
But still exceptional! (And FYWP.)
actually 18th century yeoman farmers.
I also think its hilarious that they have to leap-frog back to a time before anyone had actually tried the whole Free Market Uber Alles bullshit they advocate now. Guess its the only way to wish away the fact that the whole reason we have the business regulations, social and physical infrastructure programs, etc we have now is precisely because we tried it their way and it totally fucking sucked for all but about 10% of the population.
The Republican Party is about to go the way of the Wigs.
I heard that only 21% of Americans identify as “liberal”.
However, I do know that 60% aren’t conservative.
Maybe that’s why they voted for President Barack Obama. They wanted him to be President. And that’s what he is right now.
President Barack Obama is the President of the United States of America. Because 60% of Americans aren’t conservatives.
All you liberals should read RealClearPolitics telling you why 2008 was a huuuuuuuge exception whereas other election years like 2000 or 2004 were more like Real, normal America. (2006 doesn’t count, except when it’s time to blame Nancy Pelosi and Barney Frank for everything which happened since 2001.)
Now how does the repetition thing work?
Maybe I should ask Alec a question, as though he has nothing better to do than answer.
Why won’t you tell us what your favorite food is, Alec?
They WILL pickup seats. What are you going to say when Republicans pickup seats in the House and Senate this year, Alec?
Waitwaitwaitwaitwaaaaaaitaminit
Truth, are you hedging your bets? Yes the historical odds favor the opposition party picking up seats in off-year elections, but upthread you were predicting:
You goin’ soft on us, sweetie? Be proud! Be bold! Tell us how the Great Liberal Freakout 2010 is going to happen. We’ll surely be wonder how the hell you were able to call it.
“are you a Marxist or not.”
I am more of a three stooges guy myself but Groucho had his moments.
What are you OPS, “Laverne and Shirley” or “Punky Brewster”! Address my Post Asshat!
I guess according to Zinn we were just supposed to sit quietly and let him put Jews in ovens and conquer Europe, and let the Japanese rape China.
Say, isn’t that eggs-fucking-actly what happened?
They will not only PICK THEM UP, they will THROW them through the roof of the Capitol and other buildings and will form a bridge out of Washington DC to Real America where good, normal white conservative Patriot Southerners will help us out of a depressed deflationary economy by stopping all the spending and cutting the spending and cutting taxes so that we can pay down the deficit by having a lot less taxes coming in, because that napkin guy said that’s how it works.
Janice Rand was a farmer and a republican?
come on, N__B, don’t get the Star Trek thing started again.
Wait — didn’t someone (I forget who) mention that Barack Obama’s approval rating among 18-29-year-olds is a bouncy 78%?
Goodness gracious me! Next they’ll be pointing out that the Republican Party has a 7% approval rating among 18-29-year-olds. That’s about one in ten — no wait. It’s a bit lower than that.
I’d say there’s about a 50/50 chance of the balance of power shifting (by which I mean from ‘Democrats are well within cloture range’ to ‘Democrats are just outside cloture range’, not what you think is going to happen), but it’d be hard for it not to what with three fifths of the incumbents belonging to one party. And it’s not going to affect the wider process at work at all – you will pick up a few seats from weak incumbents, you will lose a significant number of races that would be in the bag if your best candidates weren’t under constant, hostile scrutiny from the Redstate crowd (especially where the Democrats are weakest – the Rust Belt and the West Coast, where movementarian conservatism is unpopular but the political balance is otherwise even), you will shriek with hate at the lucky few who, like Anh Cao, got lucky enough to be moderate Republicans running against a scandalized blue-districter.
But over the long run you will become a regional party catering exclusively to the teabag set, which is electoral poison everywhere but the deep south, as all three of the storied 2009 races demonstrated: the VA GOP campaign got incandescent with anger over Palin’s uninvited electioneering (considering that Palin spent 2008 calling many Virginians communists, including McConnell himself, being a northerner); the NJ race won by a moderate, and NY-23 snatched improbably from the jaws of victory by a stunningly successful Democratic campaign by Erick Ericksson, Michelle Malkin, and Sarah Palin.
Whether it be in 2020 or 2032, there will come a year within our lifetimes when in national terms the internal divides of the Democratic Party will be stronger than the contest between it and the Republican Party, at which point there will be a fresh ideological cleavage and a new party system with its own left and right unfamiliar to us.
You could even win an election in the interim, but it’s not going to change the fact that your party has already passed the point of no return – neither can it gain significant permanent support outside of its base nor can that base ever again represent an electoral majority. A Republican Party that is competitive nationally will be a Republican Party you will want nothing to do with, because half of its bigwigs will look and sound like Michael Steele.
And unlike you, I’m willing to stake my career on that outcome. Political science isn’t for losers, friend.
My prediction is that “40% of Americans are Conservative, 21% Liberal” will get caught in a compromising position with an underage male box turtle and is going to try to rationalize it all away, lol.
I am literally ashamed of myself for missing that. Some troll-baiter I am.
why would 40% of America call themselves “conservative” still if they like the Democrats?
It’s possible that this word does not mean what you think it means.
Republicans will vote in 2012 and 2010 – you can take that cheque to the banque and cashe itt.
Whoops: McDonnell, not McConnell. To be fair, all white people do look alike.
Janice Rand was a farmer and a republican?
come on, N__B, don’t get the Star Trek thing started again.
Except that unlike Yvonne C, The Yeoman did nothing for me. I spent far too much time trying to figure out how the fuck she braided her hair into a checkerboard to worry about her body.
A wise man once said (I forget where):
“The MSM still books more Republican than Democratic talking heads on the Sunday shows and anytime they bitch and moan they give them a medium to do it on. But next time you see one of them spouting off on some TV show or hear CNN talking about the “massive” teabagger party think about the fact that the Republican party is 8 (or possibly even just 5) points away from having a 0 percent approval rating from everyone in the country born after 1980.”
Aw, did our little pinata wander off? They always do that…
Whoops: McDonnell, not McConnell. To be fair, all white people do look alike.
That’s why Boehner has turned himself orange to make picking him out a bit easier.
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No. We certainly weren’t quiet. We were LOUD.
Sure, we’re lazy stupid potheads, but we grew up in a world where the Republicans had everything on a silver platter and whined for more, started a war for no reason and let it drag on forever, and ignored every problem facing the country in order to whine about queers marrying. Attitudes might change over time, but experiences don’t – and even though people will get more conservative over time, “conservative” will never again mean the level of paranoia about gays and city-folk that the GOP expects it to forever.
If the Republicans had spent the 1980s campaigning against interracial marriage, they wouldn’t exist today, because nobody born after 1950 thought interracial marriage was controversial. The extra 30% of Alabama’s white male vote comes at a heady price. Gather your electoral victories while ye may, because demographics are hardly on your side.
Bookmark this, libs. This is how I will go down.
I thought you said I wasn’t even a lib. Smug, sure, I’ll give you that, and I spend a lot of time smiling at others’ misfortunes what with being a radical leftist.
I didn’t spend 2005 crying about Diebold, and considering what happened in 2006, it seems as if I’m not the only registered Democrat who didn’t. Funny how that works, no?
Holy shit … THAR SHE BLOWS!! IT’S JONAH!!
It would certainly explain a lot, would it not?
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A tad more seriously:
American exceptionalism (DFH edition): America is a generally kick ass place and wonderful nation most of the time, but we tend to do some dumb shit sometimes. Like slavery, and Jim Crow, and treating women like crap, and invading nations that aren’t a threat to us AT ALL, and how we eat too much and treat the environment like shit. You know, facts about stuff we’ve done wrong and can do better in the future.
American exceptionalism (GOP edition): Nothing America does is ever, ever wrong evah, ,even stuff we’ve done throughout history, and we should never, ever be questioned! We’re the greatest nation on Earth because SHUT UP THAT’S WHY! Well, except when a Democrat is in power — then it’s totally cool to advocate the violent overthrow of the government and make racist jokes and basically ignore every fucking thing we said when our guy was in charge because SHUT UP THAT’S WHY!
Now if you’ll excuse me, I’m going to send those definitions over the ol’ Funk and Wagnalls folks
Are you sure? I heard that only 7% of 18-29-year-olds (worst affected by the recession) approve of the Republican Party, but 78% still approve of Barack Obama. And their opinions are most reflective of the future. No matter what happens in the next year or two, the center of gravity of the country is heading (actually, hurtling) leftwards.
Seven percent. That’s like one in fourteen. Or is it less?
Your fundamental belief is that all you have to do is wait three years and your fellow conservatives will no longer have the long-term memory necessary to smell something fishy about Jeb Bush.
I don’t think the phrase “useful idiot” has ever been more appropriate. You don’t think America’s center-right, you think it’s center-retarded, and judging from your comments about close to everyone in the country but your own beautiful, beautiful self, that’s not all you think about it.
The Republican Party’s future will be won and lost by people like Dede Scozzafava, and considering that you seem to assume any self-identified conservative is either a treasonous liar or profoundly mentally retarded, I’d guess that the answer is “lost”.
“Gather your electoral victories while ye may, because demographics are hardly on your side.”
Nuh uh! Hip and youthful conservatives like Glen Beck will totally lead a new generation of young Americans to see that conservatism is teh OSSUM!
More jokes about his unique dependency on the Teleprompter and his hateful youth! That’s how you’re gonna take this country back! After all, that was how you won in 2008.
What I’m seeing here is basically someone taking every sign that the iPhone is a poor product and spinning it to mean that rotary phones are gong to make a big comeback any day now. The game isn’t being played by your rules any more, you Goddamn cretin.
“BHO’s presidency is going to be much, much worse, so bad they will forget all the bad memories about Bush. Obama is toast. Done. Finished.”
OBJECTION! Assumes facts not in evidence. Move to strike from the record, your honor.
But you bookmarked it so carefully! With your favorite, only partially chewed RedState bookmark!
I’m not sure how it happened, but it may possibly have something to do with the fact that 60% of Americans aren’t conservative — as you yourself gladly admit every single time you post.
Obama’s Dangling Appendages
Those who praise Chthulu will die easy.
2009-2013 is just a replay of the post-Watergate/Carter years.
No it’s not.
I like that, Rusty!
They will become Republicans Alec because as bad as they thought Bush was, BHO’s presidency is going to be much, much worse, so bad they will forget all the bad memories about Bush.
This is exactly like what happened with Bill Clinton, who inheirited a shitty economy from another Bush and imposed some sanity on the budgetary process – and in doing so proved he was Hitler because raising rich people’s taxes from a marginal rate of 36% to 39% was like putting them into ovens and just like asking Godzilla to come in and stomp all over the US economy, and in the economic boom that followed where average working people also benefitted, those folks were so incensed by how much worse off they were with an evul librul president that they re-elected him and stood by him when his political opponents tried to drive him from office through a combination of witch hunts and humiliation – and turned his opponents out of office, to boot.
Bookmark this…
So cha chas…back to myself, you know the subject of this post way back when what seems like before the precambrian age and the serpent was giving Eve controversial dieting tips…
Ahh, never mind. I’m pretty dull and uninteresting these days, aren’t I? Carry on.
And then they’ll vote for the guy who ran a campaign to cut their unemployment benefits off.
The unemployed don’t typically vote, and when they do they tend to take a fairly labourite line – it’s difficult to be a principled small-government conservative when big government is what stands between you and starving. It’s easy enough for that discrepancy to be invisible when you’re not hanging on for dear life to something which one party considers a Bolshevist boondoggle.
Whatever happens in the legislature, 2012 will make 1984 look like 2000. There is just no way for anyone who could possibly win the Republican nomination to win more than a handful of electoral votes. But you know, either the entire course of political and electoral history in America will continue to go as it has for half a century or WOLVERIIIIIINES!!!!1
Dennis, your career peaked with Bordello of Blood. That was 13 years ago. Time to give up.
Just, y’know, throwin some more numbers out there, ba-doodle
One in fourteen. What does that look like as a pie chart?
Exactly. Another white, male, Christian, baby boomer from the South with the same, tired views about gays and reproductive rights. Your “movement” is over and out. The future doesn’t need you.
Last time the unemployment was in double digits: 1983.
Obviously President Mondale was swept into office a year later.
Victory, because the other thirteen slices are a shitty color that nobody likes, God.
Thank god for baseless predictions pulled out of one’s ass! Where would internet debates be without them!
That’s different, because Mondale wasn’t promising unemployed Americans that he’d stop giving them money to feed their children while they looked for work. Obviously America was thirsty for the change only the incumbent could deliver.
His basic argument is that every time the GOP wins an election it’s because of what America is, and every time it doesn’t it’s because of fraud or it is a fluke; it’s as self-confirming as astrology.
He is a wizard made of saltines, and that isn’t as delicious as it sounds. I am certain he at least has the beard, though.
“This economy is much worse than 1983. We’re going to have a real hammering of this economy in the next year.”
{“fap fap fap fap fap fap fap”}
Fixed that for you.
All the best research citations are of the form “go watch TV, I guess”.
I call Bullshi–wait…wait…
Why looky here:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/34371306
http://www.cnbc.com/id/34370854
http://www.cnbc.com/id/34279948
http://www.foxbusiness.com/story/markets/futures-gain-slightly-oil-gold/
” The economy is just going to get worse and there’s nothing Hopey can do about it.”
If only there were a blameless country full of brown people that he could bomb in retaliation. As it were, he can propose further stimulus for shovel ready projects like infrastructure and other mundane projects. But why am I wasting my beautiful mind talking to a piece of shit like you?
It doesn’t matter what the numbers are — unemployment and U6 is worse now than it was in 1982-1983 because you’ve got an illegitimate Indo-Kenyan President with a fake bertifat.
If you were unemployed or underemployed under Reagan, then it was different than being in the same situation now, because then it was happening under Reagan and there was a chance at future survival but now it’s happening under Obama and Obama caused it all backwards in time during the Bush Presidency and this means that time is stuck and there is no future and no hope.
U3 and U6 unemployment, 1900 – 2009.
Before I stop torturing the poor boy any further, I’d just like to throw one last thing in the ring: his exegesis of Obama as campaigning as a moderate and ruling as a hard leftist, in addition to being directly contrary to his past statements (during the election he declared him a hard-rightist, and every time he’s done something progressives dislike our resident troll finds it in his heart to laugh and laugh at what a conservative we elected, etc), is pretty much unique to the GOP – the public elected him because he was charismatic and a Democrat, and people who expected anything specific out of him expected him to govern to the left of where he is now. (And, in fact, this accounts for his steadiest bloc of supporters – not progressives but moderates.)
It is the thing he needs to say to support his necessary belief that the GOP comeback is right around the corner and we’ll all be sorry when it turns out he’s right, and it’s something he’s been saying since before the ’06 midterms. It is a sad little man whose idea of the world around him has to change to support what he believes instead of the other way around, although God knows he’s changed his core beliefs often enough to be that one famously shitty bishop.
Also, I’m just going to lay this out: Kanye West has had sex with his mother.
Peace out!
Is it true that “conservatives” are a minority in the US?
Apparently so! And that’s the story of how President Barack Obama became President, and stayed that way.
I also hear that his approval rating among twenty-somethings is 78%, because they are suffering most from the Bush Recession. That’s because they know that the Government can, and should, definitely and always, help ordinary people. The twenty-somethings (7% approval of GOP) are having children now, and they teach their children their hard-won anti-conservative values.
Win, although “bertifat” is a close second.
“He can’t get any more “stimulus” plans passed because we can block them, just like we’ve blocked health care.”
Your usual level of success.
It’ll be real frustrating then if we end up using funds already appropriated for Bush’s and Paulson’s TARP and other programs to actually help the employment and small business situation. There’s like $200 billion of that to be spent, for grand socialist building projects! We’ll hire millions of people to carve the redwood forests into giant statues of Obama, and Stone Mountain, Georgia will be wiped away and refashioned to represent Bill Ayers, Che Guevara, and Hitler!
Wishful thinking = fact to me (‘cuz facts don’t matter, and are librul, also too). My repetitious hyperventilations are like blowing out the candles on a birthday cake, and saying “ohpleaseohpleaseohpleaseohplease be true!”
“Stone Mountain, Georgia will be wiped away and refashioned to represent Bill Ayers, Che Guevara, and Hitler!”
Don’t forget Malcom X, Martin Luther King, Louis Farrakhan and Rev. Wright on Mount Rushmore.
Jaysus. Is this thread an attempt to capture every moronic right-wing talking point ever?
No, the future of the Republican Party will be won and lost by people like
Bob McDonnellDoug Hoffman.Fecksed.
But then what will we let Bill Ayers blow up?
Well, let’s be fair. Though the future is grim for your Scozzafava types, Hoffman and the Conservative Party and other such losers are on their way to a banner year. Why, in a decade they might even qualify for public funding – and that’s great news for John McCain!!
Damn Frenchies and their anti-Free Market tax and spend policies.
Thankfully, America is still America:
and
Ceux qui portent les sachets de thé will have their revenge!
My favorite part is that the people actually capitalizing on outrage towards Wall Street are, who’d’a thunk it, the Democrats. You know, the ones who consistently got upset about the bank bailouts (instead of supporting them and then mealy-mouthedly lumping them into ‘bailouts’ as a concept, often while still supporting the bank bailouts in practice). Turns out that people are upset at New York for something besides having Jews and ethnics in it. Nobody could have predicted etc.
Dennis Miller = zero lulz … troll = lulz JACKPOT!
Don’t anybody bring up the inconvenient truth of last year, when Obama made the GOP his bitch at a time when America already had real double-digit unemployment (they stop counting you when you give up looking for work, just for starters).
40% of Americans are Conservative, 21% Liberal?
Sure, that’s what they identify themselves as when you ask them.
But it’s kind of funny how when you then poll those same folks on issues like defense spending, progressive taxation, regulating Wall Street or (GAWSP!!!) single-payer public healthcare, that “Conservative” facade falls to pieces & about 60-70% of them reveal themselves to be somewhat to the left of anyone in government who isn’t Bernie Sanders.
I can’t wait until November, Alec, and especially November 2012.
Wow. Not like we didn’t already know you’re a masochist, but … wow. PROTIP: eleven months is about a million years in politics. When the healthcare bill passes, the GOP’s boasts about killing it are going to become ad-fodder for their opponents, as are every moronic act of public Godwinning & every frothing globule of hyperbole at every townhall meeting over the summer. In case you hadn’t noticed, the US economy is slowly but surely recovering – about ten years ahead of all the experts’ predictions … with zero input from The Party Of No.
The GOP is about to learn the same lesson every teenager learns at some point: merely opposing everything feels really really kewl – & makes you wind up looking like a flaming doofus in the real world where grownups operate.
PS – you’ll be overjoyed to learn that the Republicans completely agree with you on Keeping Teh Partay’s Precious Bodily Fluids From Being Sapped – their latest ingenious plan is to get candidates to sign off on an ad-hoc “Purity Oath” (SRSLY!) – mostly consisting of all the shit they oppose (sort of unavoidable since they now have pretty well doodly-squat in the way of positive political input) – before they can get funding from their
Politburonational HQ.Obviously, between this & the deep bench of contenders to oppose him, Obama is indeed the New Jimmy Carter! Yep, I can think of no more cunning plan to halt the ongoing hemhorraging of long-time members (who nearly all mention the party becoming too extreme for them under Teh Crypto-Socialist Bush as their reason for leaving). So in this matter, you have my full & enthusiastic support. I’m sure Obama was mortified when Specter crossed the floor – & the looming prospect of more such defections will wind up destroying the nefarious Dems FOREVAR!!!!!!!!!!!!
PURGE BABY PURGE!
The awesomely productive, societally necessary super-rich are not going to be happy with this ugly intrusion into their carefully crafted image of gently carrying America in its warm, finely attired bosom:
In fairness, articles like this often fail to mention that there are a lot of nice things and investments which can be had by rich people that just aren’t going to be theirs if they’re just giving their own completely earned productive money away to a bunch of worthless bums.
Yeah, well, those poor people are probably giving away, like, their food stamps and their vouchers for free Cadillacs, because they have a TV and a cellphone so they can’t really be that bad off, unlike the people who are really poor, who should just go to a church and be preached at instead of asking for gubmentandouts and pullerself uppiaboostraps selfaliance morninamerica.
Whereas ranting about Zimbabwe, comparing myself to a Jew in Nazi Germany and endlessly repeating that I called people retards in high school (in case someone missed my identical phrasing the first three times) means I have my finger on the pulse of real ‘Murika. Also, you should suck it. Also.
Yeah? ‘Cause I just posted a fucking article right the fuck above, maybe you could look at it. And a lot of those ‘charitable’ donations are church tithings. Pffft.
Hey, remember when we were talking about me earlier? What would I have said about people who tithe? I would consider you a pathetic liberal homo, Troofie, instead of the just-plain homo you actually are.
In which Harry Turtledove alternative Tea Party universe where Newt Gingrich is some sort of popular revolutionary leader?
“However, with the administration wary and no instant surge of support in Congress, there appeared to be little prospect that the US would join the European drive in the near term.”
Where do I sign up for the lynch mob? I personally don’t want to kill any bankers, but I am willing to be morally complicit in the ensuing atrocities, so long as it leads to meaningful financial reform. Ninety nine percent of the wealth is owned by one percent of the population in the United States. I figure if we seize and redistribute the assets of just a few hundred thousand people, we could solve a lot of problems in this country.
Sure, it sounds monstrous, but we don’t -have- to kill them. Let them live on a little less. We can be benevolent about it. We’re Americans. Give them all medals and call them heroes. As great injustices go, that’s the minor leagues, man. Plus, think of all the good we could do with the seized wealth. We could use the money to lobby the Senate to pass meaningful health care reform. We could bribe Ben Nelson with two or three times what he’s been promised by his corporate backers. Joe Lieberman would be on our side as soon as we bought him a new set of jowls. We’ll finally be able to match the influence of K street!
Hey, by the way, fuck old people, because they don’t need no damn Social Security, they just need to get their asses to church and beg for charity. That’s what Real America thinks!
What are you talking about, Troofie? McCain won, just like you predicted. We bookmarked it. Although the fact that you’re being a miserable pussy and running away indicates you’re more a Palin man.
Shorter Troofie: UNCLE!
Are you insulting Baby Jesus II Trig Palin?
I just heard a flushing sound. Did anyone else hear that?
I heard it right after “hype”.
“I think I’ve proven my superior debating skills and knowledge of politics.”
Of course you think that; you’re an abject moron. Light bends around you, you’re so dense.
Yes, I sure look “might stupid” compared to someone who gets their ass repeatedly pwned ON A COMEDY BLOG.
You libz had better duck-&-cover! Here comes Teh Wrath Of Boehner Part Eleventeen: The Enorangeing!
Heh heh. You said “Boehner.”
Oompa-loompa-doopety-doo,
I’ve got a spread of TROOF for you.
Oompa-loompa-doopety-dee,
Think I just gave the troll a stiffie.
Marks coming in on the flounce, & it doesn’t look good:
0.2 – 0.2 – 0.2 – 0.4 – 0.1 – 0.0 – 0.3 – 0.0
[ crowd: booooooooooooo ]
“Looks like the security folks are really going to have to be on their toes getting this guy out of here in one piece, Bob.”
While I may not be in the Constitution, I’ll tell you what I am in.
Hint: It’s your mom.
Clumsy all the way through, but he was clearly hoping for a stellar dismount. And that is not what we saw here tonight.
Well that was an interesting glimpse into the madness and delusions of a wingnut. Telling that he thinks he “won” because he was able to repeat the same meaningless drivel and cretinous “reasoning” regardless of the factual counters against him, not to mention the wit! Thanks folks, for letting me lurk.
Repress my coasts, libs!
(singing) “When words and logic reared their head, I bravely turned my tail and fled….”
Sorry have to continue asvab testing, ‘cos my Mom’s at the door, and the neighbor’s going to turn off their wifi, and I have to clean my room.
Vroom! Vroom!! I’m a rocket pilot!!!
Access my hosts, libs!
Ayn Rand said
No wonder troofie left. When you lose Ayn Rand man you’ve LOST.
698?
699?
700! Woo hoo!!!!
Pshaw. JoeLie is the possessor of the finest set of jowls known to man. Can’t touch them.
The reason why the Teabaggers are so angry, is because they are walking around with someone’s balls in their mouths – that would make me angry too. Maybe they should stop doing that, if it’s just going to make them so angry…
Hey, without looking, can any of you tell me what the Shorter was about?
Ooooooooh! That is really MEAN to somebody!
I think SOMEBODY owes Sarah Palin an apology.
Ever since I first heard THIS idiotic talking point, I’ve been looking for a single Obama voter who voted for him just because of “liberal guilt.”
No luck so far.
(Hey, OSP, you got any links to articles that “prove” THIS one?)
N__B, me too, and I was crushed to find out in college that it was just a wig. (Although, then again, there was the merkin femme slash.)
Damn it, Cid, your flounce snark is making me snort with poorly repressed laughter. I’m trying (failing) to stay quiet in here and not wake up the wife. When you see the news tomorrow about the lesbian bus driver axe-murdered at home when her wife “just snapped”, I hope you Sadly Naughts realize you are all accessories.
(driving lesbian buses, yuk yuk)
Ooh, ooh, I wanna play! How about “Congress shall have the power… To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water”?
Your country does indeed remain centre-right. That’s why it prefers a centre-right party to a far right one. That’s why it has a centre-right President – and if you think he’s governing anywhere to the left of where he campaigned, you must be confusing his campaign with the other guy’s.
And every rightard who mentions Paine should be tied down and have Agrarian Justice read to them, with The Age of Reason thrown in for good measure.
So, scanning back over the thread, Trollie’s plan for bringing the Republicans back into power consists entirely of counting on people being mad a Democrats for not fixing the shit that Republicans broke the last time they were in power. Huh.
and if you think he’s governing anywhere to the left of where he campaigned, you must be confusing his campaign with the other guy’s.
As far as I can tell, he’s governing to the right of where he campaigned. Still better than the combination of dishonorable senility and moronic jebusing that the Rs offered, but disappointing.
Kingubu –
“See what you made me do!” is, for them, a feature not a bug.
N__B, its not even the Wifebeaters Lament– its like an arsonist laughing at the firefighters for not putting out his fire fast enough, and then thinking that lauging will make people trust him more. Beyond kooky.
The troll stench was wafting out of the laptop before I opened it. The dog was growling at the computer while it was sitting unopened on the table.
And that’s it, in its entirety. Troofy’s whole life. His reason for being.
Spag wept.
Whoa. Full-on troofy neurosis on steroids. That boy lives on spite.
I find it interesting that Troofie thinks the GOP is going to be swept back to power by blocking everything designed to improve our country and get it back on its feet.
That’s a really special kind of stupid right there. Like, you know, weapons-grade stupid.
Just … jeebus.
I’m just posting this to do my part to make this the longest comments section ever. Thank you.
It was my goal in life to be considered as significant as a scarf or tie clip.
Psssst….new thread.
That boy lives on spite.
spite is remarkably fattening.
Damn, that’s some persistent trolling. What was that, like, 8 hours? Gotta give him points for that.
That boy lives on spite.
And Mounain Dew, no?
Wow. That’s the longest Troofy’s lasted in ages. I’m almost impressed.
Who’d have thought that fear and ignorance had so many calories? (copyright Mitch Benn)
The dog was growling at the computer while it was sitting unopened on the table.
My dog does that too! Now I know why. Thanks!
What was that, like, 8 hours?
Ten years.
(high taxes, big government, nanny statate, more debt and more spending).”
Dick Cheney.
Bookmark it, Troofie.
For the Peanut Gallery:
Obama’s Popularity Sinking said,
December 11, 2009 at 3:11
Hey Northern Observer:
Canadian beer sucks even worse than Canadian weather, and Quebec should be independent.
That’s all you got? Pathetic. Why don’t you come back up here so we can whip your asses and burn your white house again. Losers.
I guess you’re all tough and shit when it comes to massacering defenceless native american women and children but when you have to fight her majesty’s forces you come apart like soggy cardboard.
But remember, Northern Observer, it’s the “libs” that do the “childish ranting”…
But remember, Northern Observer, according to that deranged fuckstick, it’s the “libs” that do the “childish ranting”…
Can we please talk now about how stupid Dennis Miller is?
And to think this all started with the only Star Wars ref I’ve laughed at in years, “Let the Wookie win.” It’s true of trolls, too; let ’em run a victory lap around their mom’s wood paneled basement.
As for you, Northern Observer: vaunt if you will your safety net, your good schools, your less bloody history with First Nationals, and your national health care system–the kind that it’s now clear we’re not going to get because our senate is riddled with Blue Shield’s buttboys. But at least we’re citizens not subjects. And look where the hell that’s got us. Of course, if we’d stayed in the Empire, slavery would have been gone by 1840 thanks to Wilberforce, there would have been no American Civil War; Germany would have stayed encircled… Well as Grandma used to say, it’s all been for the best.
I just want to be part of this epic thread.